Mavs Offseason - 21/22 - what do we do from here?

[XTraderXL]

The point is you win, you lose some. Anybody in Dallas' position would have made that trade. We ended up losing it sucks, but its not like some obvious gaffe. Dallas has done that many times before, the Jason Kidd to PHX tarde, the Jamal mashburn trade, the Jim jackson trade, so on and so forth. heck, giving up 2 picks in the KP trade was far worse than the J Rich for Seth trade.

That was hardly your initial point or else you would have said it. I asked because your argument was basically that Curry is playing well against a young team. I actually agree with your latter explanation but I still think the FO needs to be criticised for every bad move they make. These guys are paid millions to do a job for which they have practically unlimited resources to help them make the right decisions and they still do a bad job.

And another thing. I was all for the KP trade as I believed the fable of Casey Smith being the best athletic trainer in the league so surely he had to be positive that KPs health will hold up. Well, apparently the guy is not the best as KP is perpetually injured and is physically a different man while in his physical prime. So all this talk about how good the Mavs training staff is was completely wrong if they missed so badly on KP. This whole organization is on the level of the Kings right now. The only good thing they have going for them at this moment is Luka who is dragging them into playoffs. They are a lottery team with any other player as a #1, outside of other 5-6 guys in the league who would/will never want to come to Dallas.

The point still stands, his defense was part of the reaosn he got traded. He has 2 defensive player of the year candidates as teammates and they're getting slapped around by a team of guys in their first ever postseason. So he's not some superstar we're desperately missing, he's still a liability on D, always has been, always will be.

So you think it was a good trade for the Mavs. Got it

[daoneandonly]

That was hardly your initial point or else you would have said it. I asked because your argument was basically that Curry is playing well against a young team. I actually agree with your latter explanation but I still think the FO needs to be criticised for every bad move they make. These guys are paid millions to do a job for which they have practically unlimited resources to help them make the right decisions and they still do a bad job.

And another thing. I was all for the KP trade as I believed the fable of Casey Smith being the best athletic trainer in the league so surely he had to be positive that KPs health will hold up. Well, apparently the guy is not the best as KP is perpetually injured and is physically a different man while in his physical prime. So all this talk about how good the Mavs training staff is was completely wrong if they missed so badly on KP. This whole organization is on the level of the Kings right now. The only good thing they have going for them at this moment is Luka who is dragging them into playoffs. They are a lottery team with any other player as a #1, outside of other 5-6 guys in the league who would/will never want to come to Dallas.

The point still stands, his defense was part of the reaosn he got traded. He has 2 defensive player of the year candidates as teammates and they're getting slapped around by a team of guys in their first ever postseason. So he's not some superstar we're desperately missing, he's still a liability on D, always has been, always will be.

So you think it was a good trade for the Mavs. Got it

No I just dont think there's any reason to whine about it when Dallas needed defense and thats why they made the deal. J Rich stuck it up, thats on him. There's so many other things to blast the Mavs FO is, this isnt one of them.

[XTraderXL]

The point still stands, his defense was part of the reaosn he got traded. He has 2 defensive player of the year candidates as teammates and they're getting slapped around by a team of guys in their first ever postseason. So he's not some superstar we're desperately missing, he's still a liability on D, always has been, always will be.

So you think it was a good trade for the Mavs. Got it

No I just dont think there's any reason to whine about it when Dallas needed defense and thats why they made the deal. J Rich stuck it up, thats on him. There's so many other things to blast the Mavs FO is, this isnt one of them.

Actually Curry could have made the difference in the Clippers series. JRrich was so bad he couldnt even play. At least with Curry they would have had a player who can create some, can obviously score and can play 20+ min. That is a big deal.

Dallas did need defense but JRich didnt help with that. They screwed up and thats it. If you want to be mad about other moves thats fine but it doesnt make it any less true. I will leave it there.

[JJP]

He's right. You're whining.

Every trade is a gamble. This trade was a trade of offensive metrics for defensive metrics. It didn't happen. It could have gone either way. Curry has been injured a lot in his career, and Richardson has some defensive pedigree whether it was warranted or not.

[Mr B]

Seth Curry scored 36 in the second round of the PO. He was traded by the Mavs for an unplayable player in JRich. Great job by everyone involved in the trade. Luka must be so happy right now.

They just got rid of the guys responsible for that trade. Luka should be happy!


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[Mr B]

Also didnt Carlisle put out a statement that Lloyd Pearce shouldnt have been fired? Just goes to show what kind of people run the Mavs.

Haven’t heard that either. What’s your source?


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[Heezzi]

Sign Gary Trent Jr.

[Mr B]

The point is you win, you lose some. Anybody in Dallas' position would have made that trade. We ended up losing it sucks, but its not like some obvious gaffe. Dallas has done that many times before, the Jason Kidd to PHX tarde, the Jamal mashburn trade, the Jim jackson trade, so on and so forth. heck, giving up 2 picks in the KP trade was far worse than the J Rich for Seth trade.

That was hardly your initial point or else you would have said it. I asked because your argument was basically that Curry is playing well against a young team. I actually agree with your latter explanation but I still think the FO needs to be criticised for every bad move they make. These guys are paid millions to do a job for which they have practically unlimited resources to help them make the right decisions and they still do a bad job.

And another thing. I was all for the KP trade as I believed the fable of Casey Smith being the best athletic trainer in the league so surely he had to be positive that KPs health will hold up. Well, apparently the guy is not the best as KP is perpetually injured and is physically a different man while in his physical prime. So all this talk about how good the Mavs training staff is was completely wrong if they missed so badly on KP. This whole organization is on the level of the Kings right now. The only good thing they have going for them at this moment is Luka who is dragging them into playoffs. They are a lottery team with any other player as a #1, outside of other 5-6 guys in the league who would/will never want to come to Dallas.

The point still stands, his defense was part of the reaosn he got traded. He has 2 defensive player of the year candidates as teammates and they're getting slapped around by a team of guys in their first ever postseason. So he's not some superstar we're desperately missing, he's still a liability on D, always has been, always will be.

That’s why Curry was traded. He can’t guard anyone. He was literally the Mavs worst defender at the guard position.


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[Heezzi]

The point is you win, you lose some. Anybody in Dallas' position would have made that trade. We ended up losing it sucks, but its not like some obvious gaffe. Dallas has done that many times before, the Jason Kidd to PHX tarde, the Jamal mashburn trade, the Jim jackson trade, so on and so forth. heck, giving up 2 picks in the KP trade was far worse than the J Rich for Seth trade.

That was hardly your initial point or else you would have said it. I asked because your argument was basically that Curry is playing well against a young team. I actually agree with your latter explanation but I still think the FO needs to be criticised for every bad move they make. These guys are paid millions to do a job for which they have practically unlimited resources to help them make the right decisions and they still do a bad job.

And another thing. I was all for the KP trade as I believed the fable of Casey Smith being the best athletic trainer in the league so surely he had to be positive that KPs health will hold up. Well, apparently the guy is not the best as KP is perpetually injured and is physically a different man while in his physical prime. So all this talk about how good the Mavs training staff is was completely wrong if they missed so badly on KP. This whole organization is on the level of the Kings right now. The only good thing they have going for them at this moment is Luka who is dragging them into playoffs. They are a lottery team with any other player as a #1, outside of other 5-6 guys in the league who would/will never want to come to Dallas.

The point still stands, his defense was part of the reaosn he got traded. He has 2 defensive player of the year candidates as teammates and they're getting slapped around by a team of guys in their first ever postseason. So he's not some superstar we're desperately missing, he's still a liability on D, always has been, always will be.

By that logic, Mavericks should trade Brunson then.

[daoneandonly]

That was hardly your initial point or else you would have said it. I asked because your argument was basically that Curry is playing well against a young team. I actually agree with your latter explanation but I still think the FO needs to be criticised for every bad move they make. These guys are paid millions to do a job for which they have practically unlimited resources to help them make the right decisions and they still do a bad job.

And another thing. I was all for the KP trade as I believed the fable of Casey Smith being the best athletic trainer in the league so surely he had to be positive that KPs health will hold up. Well, apparently the guy is not the best as KP is perpetually injured and is physically a different man while in his physical prime. So all this talk about how good the Mavs training staff is was completely wrong if they missed so badly on KP. This whole organization is on the level of the Kings right now. The only good thing they have going for them at this moment is Luka who is dragging them into playoffs. They are a lottery team with any other player as a #1, outside of other 5-6 guys in the league who would/will never want to come to Dallas.

The point still stands, his defense was part of the reaosn he got traded. He has 2 defensive player of the year candidates as teammates and they're getting slapped around by a team of guys in their first ever postseason. So he's not some superstar we're desperately missing, he's still a liability on D, always has been, always will be.

By that logic, Mavericks should trade Brunson then.

From your fingertips to God's eyes, always wanted him traded.

[agentofatlas]

Also didnt Carlisle put out a statement that Lloyd Pearce shouldnt have been fired? Just goes to show what kind of people run the Mavs.

Haven’t heard that either. What’s your source?


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I don't think that guy is aware that Rick said that because he is the president of the coaches association.

[agentofatlas]

That was hardly your initial point or else you would have said it. I asked because your argument was basically that Curry is playing well against a young team. I actually agree with your latter explanation but I still think the FO needs to be criticised for every bad move they make. These guys are paid millions to do a job for which they have practically unlimited resources to help them make the right decisions and they still do a bad job.

And another thing. I was all for the KP trade as I believed the fable of Casey Smith being the best athletic trainer in the league so surely he had to be positive that KPs health will hold up. Well, apparently the guy is not the best as KP is perpetually injured and is physically a different man while in his physical prime. So all this talk about how good the Mavs training staff is was completely wrong if they missed so badly on KP. This whole organization is on the level of the Kings right now. The only good thing they have going for them at this moment is Luka who is dragging them into playoffs. They are a lottery team with any other player as a #1, outside of other 5-6 guys in the league who would/will never want to come to Dallas.

The point still stands, his defense was part of the reaosn he got traded. He has 2 defensive player of the year candidates as teammates and they're getting slapped around by a team of guys in their first ever postseason. So he's not some superstar we're desperately missing, he's still a liability on D, always has been, always will be.

By that logic, Mavericks should trade Brunson then.

Probably should. You gotta pay him eventually.

[XTraderXL]

Also didnt Carlisle put out a statement that Lloyd Pearce shouldnt have been fired? Just goes to show what kind of people run the Mavs.

Haven’t heard that either. What’s your source?


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Check out his statement when Pierce was fired. His reasoning for this was because basically he agrees with the Dems on political issues.

[XTraderXL]

Also didnt Carlisle put out a statement that Lloyd Pearce shouldnt have been fired? Just goes to show what kind of people run the Mavs.

Haven’t heard that either. What’s your source?


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I don't think that guy is aware that Rick said that because he is the president of the coaches association.

I am fully aware he is th president. You should not assume things you know nothing about.

In any case, do you think that statement was something that any sane person would put out? Did you read it? It read more like a political endorsement. There was practically no basketball argument in that statement. It was all SJW bull. Thats who the Mavs head coach is. The whole thing was ridiculous and a bad look for Carlisle, prasident of coaches association or not.

[agentofatlas]

Haven’t heard that either. What’s your source?


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I don't think that guy is aware that Rick said that because he is the president of the coaches association.

I am fully aware he is th president. You should not assume things you know nothing about.

In any case, do you think that statement was something that any sane person would put out? Did you read it? It read more like a political endorsement. There was practically no basketball argument in that statement. It was all SJW bull. Thats who the Mavs head coach is. The whole thing was ridiculous and a bad look for Carlisle, prasident of coaches association or not.

I apologize then. I thought you were ignorant of the situation.

And yes I think the statement was fine. Kinda a non-story actually. I don't really get why you get so worked up about PR fluff.

[HMFFL]

Also didnt Carlisle put out a statement that Lloyd Pearce shouldnt have been fired? Just goes to show what kind of people run the Mavs.

Haven’t heard that either. What’s your source?


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Check out his statement when Pierce was fired. His reasoning for this was because basically he agrees with the Dems on political issues.

Rick was very wrong for saying what he did about Pierce. He couldn't have been more wrong and bringing politics into it wasn't right.
While I understand him standing up for other coaches I felt like he took it to far. The Hawks players have proved he was a cancer like most fans knew already.

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[Apz]

Well, it will be one crazy summer by the looks of it. Just hope cuban ditches the bob guy too while at it

[Mr B]

Well, it will be one crazy summer by the looks of it. Just hope cuban ditches the bob guy too while at it

That’s what I’m hoping for. Clean the entire house. Cuban still has a chance to come out looking good in this if he hires Masai Ujiri, he hires his coach, and they spend their money well this off season. It all starts with hiring the right GM/President of BBall Operations.


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[leolozon]

Well, it will be one crazy summer by the looks of it. Just hope cuban ditches the bob guy too while at it

That’s what I’m hoping for. Clean the entire house. Cuban still has a chance to come out looking good in this if he hires Masai Ujiri, he hires his coach, and they spend their money well this off season. It all starts with hiring the right GM/President of BBall Operations.


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IF

Did the Mavs organisation take one good decision since trading for Doncic?

From what I read, Cuban is taking the decisions. So that's a big if.

[JD45]

Well, it will be one crazy summer by the looks of it. Just hope cuban ditches the bob guy too while at it

That’s what I’m hoping for. Clean the entire house. Cuban still has a chance to come out looking good in this if he hires Masai Ujiri, he hires his coach, and they spend their money well this off season. It all starts with hiring the right GM/President of BBall Operations.


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IF

Did the Mavs organisation take one good decision since trading for Doncic?

From what I read, Cuban is taking the decisions. So that's a big if.

And there it is. If Cuban is really the GM, and that is probably correct, this is really a change in advisors. The coach would have a bigger impact, but the GM not so much. Thats why I think the job goes to Finley. Masai is not coming here to be Cuban's (very well paid) assistant.