MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021

[contract]

What if... acquiring Adams allows you to package Bam for a star?

We can do that now. There's nothing about Adams that makes Bam any more replaceable than Dedmon does really.

How about handling starter minutes? In Dedmon's career he's had one season over 25 minutes per game... and that was 25.1
Adams is a better defender, a better screener to help shooters get open and wear down defenders and also can handle starter minutes. In Dedmon's career he's played in the low 20s, high teens in minutes minutes most of his career, his career high in minutes for a season is 25.1. The one plus for Dedmon is that he has 3pt range.

I like Dedmon as a backup center, not so much a starter.

May not matter if Miami can get Drummond with cap space or an exception.

Even if he's all that, he still has no bearing on whether or not Bam is tradeable. If there was a star that we could trade Bam for and we were willing to do it if Adams was on the team ... we'd be just as willing if he wasn't.

[MettaWorldPanda]

On offense i want Bam working the low block instead of doing dribble handoff at the top of the key. Learn a nice turn around jump shot and some post moves. Stay down low for offensive rebounding and put backs. Throw in occasional mid range. Keep it simple and i bet he thrives. Get multiple stretch 4 and 5 players to put along side him. Enough with playing career SF’s next to him in the front court. Puts way too much pressure and attention on him.

[AirP.]

We can do that now. There's nothing about Adams that makes Bam any more replaceable than Dedmon does really.

How about handling starter minutes? In Dedmon's career he's had one season over 25 minutes per game... and that was 25.1
Adams is a better defender, a better screener to help shooters get open and wear down defenders and also can handle starter minutes. In Dedmon's career he's played in the low 20s, high teens in minutes minutes most of his career, his career high in minutes for a season is 25.1. The one plus for Dedmon is that he has 3pt range.

I like Dedmon as a backup center, not so much a starter.

May not matter if Miami can get Drummond with cap space or an exception.

Even if he's all that, he still has no bearing on whether or not Bam is tradeable. If there was a star that we could trade Bam for and we were willing to do it if Adams was on the team ... we'd be just as willing if he wasn't.

I think there's a big issue of moving Bam without having another starting big on the roster, maybe you can get one back in a trade for a star.

[DayofMourning]

On offense i want Bam working the low block instead of doing dribble handoff at the top of the key. Learn a nice turn around jump shot and some post moves. Stay down low for offensive rebounding and put backs. Throw in occasional mid range. Keep it simple and i bet he thrives. Get multiple stretch 4 and 5 players to put along side him. Enough with playing career SF’s next to him in the front court. Puts way too much pressure and attention on him.

I like much of what you say. I think Bam could feed off mid range early on, until teams start planning for that, then he could take advantage of attacking the basket. Needs to work on that first step though. If not the explosiveness of it, at least the anticipation of using it.

Bams skillset reminds me more of KG than a true low post presence. Get him a lunch pail big who does all the dirty work and I think Bams game would grow.

[AirP.]

If Philly doesn't get out of the 2nd round, the 76ers probably ramp up their efforts to bring Lowry back to his hometown which could really effect Miami reworking or not reworking their roster moving forward. If Lowry ends up not being an option for Miami I'm not really sure there's any proven high enough leveled players available to acquire to upgrade this roster much other then crossing their fingers Oladipo gets back to his old self(which probably isn't happening, 90% maybe).

It wouldn't be good if this team came back nearly the same with possibly a legit starting center next to Bam. It's starting to feel like it's quite possible this roster gets worse for the 2nd year in a row since making the finals because of Dragic aging and possibly losing someone like Nunn.

I guess for Beal or Westbrook being moved(I know, not nearly the same value of player), it would depend on the Wizards they hire as a head coach which may take a while, I expect most head coach candidates are waiting for Milwaukee to open up before deciding since that's the team with best roster.

[Beenie]

On offense i want Bam working the low block instead of doing dribble handoff at the top of the key. Learn a nice turn around jump shot and some post moves. Stay down low for offensive rebounding and put backs. Throw in occasional mid range. Keep it simple and i bet he thrives. Get multiple stretch 4 and 5 players to put along side him. Enough with playing career SF’s next to him in the front court. Puts way too much pressure and attention on him.

Yep.

Bam's footwork, dexterity, angle selection, release point, and explosion all need refinement.

Even small improvements in these areas would have a major impact.

And a drop-step fluid jump-hook would do wonders.

All of the "Bam should shoot the 3 chatter" is counterproductive, imo.

[Kobewade11]

If Philly doesn't get out of the 2nd round, the 76ers probably ramp up their efforts to bring Lowry back to his hometown which could really effect Miami reworking or not reworking their roster moving forward. If Lowry ends up not being an option for Miami I'm not really sure there's any proven high enough leveled players available to acquire to upgrade this roster much other then crossing their fingers Oladipo gets back to his old self(which probably isn't happening, 90% maybe).

It wouldn't be good if this team came back nearly the same with possibly a legit starting center next to Bam. It's starting to feel like it's quite possible this roster gets worse for the 2nd year in a row since making the finals because of Dragic aging and possibly losing someone like Nunn.

I guess for Beal or Westbrook being moved(I know, not nearly the same value of player), it would depend on the Wizards they hire as a head coach which may take a while, I expect most head coach candidates are waiting for Milwaukee to open up before deciding since that's the team with best roster.

If Lowry wants to be here he'll be here. Philly reportedly wasn't even hot after him at the deadline.

[_GH0ST_]

Did you see the new news? Wish we could get Zion. I would definitely give Bam for Zion.

[AirP.]

If Philly doesn't get out of the 2nd round, the 76ers probably ramp up their efforts to bring Lowry back to his hometown which could really effect Miami reworking or not reworking their roster moving forward. If Lowry ends up not being an option for Miami I'm not really sure there's any proven high enough leveled players available to acquire to upgrade this roster much other then crossing their fingers Oladipo gets back to his old self(which probably isn't happening, 90% maybe).

It wouldn't be good if this team came back nearly the same with possibly a legit starting center next to Bam. It's starting to feel like it's quite possible this roster gets worse for the 2nd year in a row since making the finals because of Dragic aging and possibly losing someone like Nunn.

I guess for Beal or Westbrook being moved(I know, not nearly the same value of player), it would depend on the Wizards they hire as a head coach which may take a while, I expect most head coach candidates are waiting for Milwaukee to open up before deciding since that's the team with best roster.

If Lowry wants to be here he'll be here. Philly reportedly wasn't even hot after him at the deadline.

I think the 76ers are finally going to have to realize, Embiid is an MVP level player and they are doing him a disservice having a non shooting PG in the halfcourt with him. Once they decide that you can't keep Simmons with Embiid then they'll need a true floor general and with that, they may have renewed interest in a guy like Lowry and if that happens, maybe Lowry will prioritize going back home vs playing with Butler in Miami.

I believe if Philly were to just straight up replace Simmons with Lowry, Philly would be a much better team and would have eaisly beat Atlanta in the 2nd round but I also understand Simmons as an asset is worth more then Lowry because of their ages so something like that can't happen one for one. Who knows, since Morey is in that organization he gets the team to go all in trying to pair up Embiid with Lillard.

All I'm saying is Miami better have a plan B just in case Lowry decides to go elsewhere.

[HEATVols865]

Hopefully we can match Duncan's QO on a reasonable price then try to sign Lowry, Theis and McConnell.

Starting 5 would be

Theis / Dedmon
Bam / Okpala
Butler / Struss / Okpala
Robinson / Herro
Lowry / McConnell

Please bring back Dedmon in cheap.

You hate defense that much that you want Duncan back? Eek!


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[BenoUdrihFTL]

Trade Spo to the Blazers for a pick (that's possible right?) and hire Rick "Spo Killer" Carlisle asap

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[Kobewade11]

Carlisle still living off LeBron's choke job in 2011.

[marson]

Hopefully we can match Duncan's QO on a reasonable price then try to sign Lowry, Theis and McConnell.

Starting 5 would be

Theis / Dedmon
Bam / Okpala
Butler / Struss / Okpala
Robinson / Herro
Lowry / McConnell

Please bring back Dedmon in cheap.

You hate defense that much that you want Duncan back? Eek!


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No one in this league plays defense anyway

Its all about shooting now.

[Beenie]

If Philly doesn't get out of the 2nd round, the 76ers probably ramp up their efforts to bring Lowry back to his hometown which could really effect Miami reworking or not reworking their roster moving forward. If Lowry ends up not being an option for Miami I'm not really sure there's any proven high enough leveled players available to acquire to upgrade this roster much other then crossing their fingers Oladipo gets back to his old self(which probably isn't happening, 90% maybe).

It wouldn't be good if this team came back nearly the same with possibly a legit starting center next to Bam. It's starting to feel like it's quite possible this roster gets worse for the 2nd year in a row since making the finals because of Dragic aging and possibly losing someone like Nunn.

I guess for Beal or Westbrook being moved(I know, not nearly the same value of player), it would depend on the Wizards they hire as a head coach which may take a while, I expect most head coach candidates are waiting for Milwaukee to open up before deciding since that's the team with best roster.

If Lowry wants to be here he'll be here. Philly reportedly wasn't even hot after him at the deadline.

I think the 76ers are finally going to have to realize, Embiid is an MVP level player and they are doing him a disservice having a non shooting PG in the halfcourt with him. Once they decide that you can't keep Simmons with Embiid then they'll need a true floor general and with that, they may have renewed interest in a guy like Lowry and if that happens, maybe Lowry will prioritize going back home vs playing with Butler in Miami.

I believe if Philly were to just straight up replace Simmons with Lowry, Philly would be a much better team and would have eaisly beat Atlanta in the 2nd round but I also understand Simmons as an asset is worth more then Lowry because of their ages so something like that can't happen one for one. Who knows, since Morey is in that organization he gets the team to go all in trying to pair up Embiid with Lillard.

All I'm saying is Miami better have a plan B just in case Lowry decides to go elsewhere.

I’d guess that before Lowry gets legit consideration from Philly, that Morey will first want to check in on the Dame and Kawhi caliber players who are or might be available. I would expect Simmons to be used as the primary bait.

[eddieheatfan]

Trade Spo to the Blazers for a pick (that's possible right?) and hire Rick "Spo Killer" Carlisle asap

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not gonna happen has long papa riley is in charge. the godfather loves his protégé pretty much

[TroubleS0me]

I Dont think Jimmy deserve that 3rd team All-NBA....

[marson]

I Dont think Jimmy deserve that 3rd team All-NBA....

He deserves it. We were 33-19 with him playing and 7-13 if not.

We're basically not a playoff team without Jimmy last season.

[Hallstar]

Trade Spo to the Blazers for a pick (that's possible right?) and hire Rick "Spo Killer" Carlisle asap

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So if Spo didn't win a playoff round since 2011 would you want him?

[NBADraft2003]

Trade Spo to the Blazers for a pick (that's possible right?) and hire Rick "Spo Killer" Carlisle asap

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So if Spo didn't win a playoff round since 2011 would you want him?

One was just coaching in the Finals and the other hasn’t won a series in ten years, while giving up a 2-0 lead in the first round. But yeah, let’s hire the one who hasn’t won in a decade

[MettaWorldPanda]

I hate how dumb Heat twitter has become. They really think Luka coming here cause of Dragic. More likely if we don’t opt in now they aggressively go after him to make Luka happy. S&T looking very possible too.