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What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven?

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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#21 » by the_process » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:27 pm

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GoSixersBro wrote:Play how he played in the second half of Game 3. Why does he just forget that he's able to do that?

Because he doesn't have the self-image of a scorer. He doesn't experience himself in that way.

So you can perhaps get him to do something out of the ordinary for him if you exhort him to do it, but that doesn't change his self-image as a non-scorer. Doing something in just one half of one game doesn't change someone's self-image.


It's funny, because Ben had no problem dogging out Gobert for DPOY by saying he dropped 42 on him :lol:
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#22 » by TYO23 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:59 pm

20 points or a triple double and help us win. Not just be a spectator to Seth and JoJo.
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#23 » by Eyeamok » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:22 pm

After this season say he wants to be assigned to the G-League to work on nothing but shooting. And only be called up once he is shooting 75% or more from the free throw line and hitting 2 threes a game. That's a start
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#24 » by Arsenal » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:25 pm

He has to make his Fing free throws at least at a 60% clip. There is a MASSIVE difference between 60% and the absurd 30% he is shooting right now. The latter makes him a total detriment on the court.

That's not enough to "forgive" him though.

Forgiveness can *only* come when he improves his Fing shooting instead of hiding like a coward as he's been doing his entire career.
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#25 » by Ferry Avenue » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:55 pm

Arsenal wrote:He has to make his Fing free throws at least at a 60% clip. There is a MASSIVE difference between 60% and the absurd 30% he is shooting right now. The latter makes him a total detriment on the court.

That's not enough to "forgive" him though.

Forgiveness can *only* come when he improves his Fing shooting instead of hiding like a coward as he's been doing his entire career.

I would still hack him if he were shooting 60%. That ain't good enough either, not in the clutch of a playoff game.

It's not just that Simmons is missing free throws here. It's also who isn't shooting the ball in his place. The opposing defense is dictating that Joel Embiid, Tobias Harris, Seth Curry, etc., all DO NOT shoot, and instead the shots will be taken by THE poorest shooter on the team.

And that's in the clutch of hotly contested and very close playoff games!

That's an incredibly powerful weapon opposing teams have against this team, and it all sits in the lap of Ben Simmons's ineptitude.

Imagine if the San Francisco 49ers in the Super Bowl a couple years ago could've had the power to take the ball out of Patrick Mahomes's hands in the fourth quarter and make somebody else on the Chiefs throw passes. That's about what's happening here.

Imagine how Joel Embiid feels here, wanting to take shots in the clutch and help this team win. Instead he's deprived of the ability to shoot the ball and has to stand there and watch Ben Simmons miss free throws and make offensive possessions in the clutch totally useless. Imagine what that does to team morale and cohesion.
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#26 » by Hipster Doofus » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:13 pm

Get a win, be the most aggressive player on the court (instead of doing it once a game every 6-8 weeks whenever he feels like it).

And then do it again Sunday night.

Maybe, maaaaaayyyybe then I'll forgive him (probably temporarily).
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#27 » by Bum Adebayo » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:10 pm

Yeah, if he can dominate in the next 2-3 games, we can forgive him, because his value will rise and we will get a better return :nod: .
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#28 » by Arsenal » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:17 pm

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Arsenal wrote:He has to make his Fing free throws at least at a 60% clip. There is a MASSIVE difference between 60% and the absurd 30% he is shooting right now. The latter makes him a total detriment on the court.

That's not enough to "forgive" him though.

Forgiveness can *only* come when he improves his Fing shooting instead of hiding like a coward as he's been doing his entire career.

I would still hack him if he were shooting 60%. That ain't good enough either, not in the clutch of a playoff game.

It's not just that Simmons is missing free throws here. It's also who isn't shooting the ball in his place. The opposing defense is dictating that Joel Embiid, Tobias Harris, Seth Curry, etc., all DO NOT shoot, and instead the shots will be taken by THE poorest shooter on the team.

And that's in the clutch of hotly contested and very close playoff games!

That's an incredibly powerful weapon opposing teams have against this team, and it all sits in the lap of Ben Simmons's ineptitude.

Imagine if the San Francisco 49ers in the Super Bowl a couple years ago could've had the power to take the ball out of Patrick Mahomes's hands in the fourth quarter and make somebody else on the Chiefs throw passes. That's about what's happening here.

Imagine how Joel Embiid feels here, wanting to take shots in the clutch and help this team win. Instead he's deprived of the ability to shoot the ball and has to stand there and watch Ben Simmons miss free throws and make offensive possessions in the clutch totally useless. Imagine what that does to team morale and cohesion.


I generally agree, but there's a reason I said 60%. That's a sort of "Mendoza line" because it equates to about average points per possession. Prob closer to 65%, but 60% is close enough where it isn't a huge difference.

30% OTOH is a total disaster that compromises everything.
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#29 » by PLO » Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:33 am

Ben's career trajectory in this series resembles that of the Vietnamese monk who self-immolated.
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#30 » by Slick SickSir » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:05 am

Theres nothing he can do because we have 4 full years of evidence of what he is

He cares more about all star title than winning titles. He plays harder when his all star bid is on the line than his championship bid

And again he comes out and plays AWFUL

6 pts on 6 shots. Outplayed by a mile by maxey and us going on all our runs with him on the bench

This dude is a strait cancer to our team
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#31 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:12 am

It does no good to bitch about him at this point. We won tonight, I want us to keep winning. I'll worry about the offseason and next year when we are eliminated. Until then I have to personally quit with the premature reactions. We still have a game to play, anything can happen. If Ben comes out and drops 30/15/10 I'll be totally happy with that as long as we win. Winning is all I care about.
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#32 » by SixthStreet » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:17 am

So the answer was to get in early and often foul trouble?
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#33 » by Black Mage » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:19 am

I'm not sure what it would take, but I definitely know tonight's performance wasn't it.
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#34 » by Black Mage » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:20 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:It does no good to bitch about him at this point. We won tonight, I want us to keep winning. I'll worry about the offseason and next year when we are eliminated. Until then I have to personally quit with the premature reactions. We still have a game to play, anything can happen. If Ben comes out and drops 30/15/10 I'll be totally happy with that as long as we win. Winning is all I care about.


Winning in spite of him isn't good though because it only gets harder going forward.
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#35 » by the_process » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:34 am

Black Mage wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:It does no good to bitch about him at this point. We won tonight, I want us to keep winning. I'll worry about the offseason and next year when we are eliminated. Until then I have to personally quit with the premature reactions. We still have a game to play, anything can happen. If Ben comes out and drops 30/15/10 I'll be totally happy with that as long as we win. Winning is all I care about.


Winning in spite of him isn't good though because it only gets harder going forward.


Assuming the Sixers can win Game 7, which is a big assumption with we've seen so far... they aren't beating the Bucks or Nets anyway unless the injury bug strikes the other side.
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#36 » by Negrodamus » Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:40 am

Ben's answer: a warm body on a winning team.

Which he was.
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#37 » by kuclas » Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:10 am

the_process wrote:
Black Mage wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:It does no good to bitch about him at this point. We won tonight, I want us to keep winning. I'll worry about the offseason and next year when we are eliminated. Until then I have to personally quit with the premature reactions. We still have a game to play, anything can happen. If Ben comes out and drops 30/15/10 I'll be totally happy with that as long as we win. Winning is all I care about.


Winning in spite of him isn't good though because it only gets harder going forward.


Assuming the Sixers can win Game 7, which is a big assumption with we've seen so far... they aren't beating the Bucks or Nets anyway unless the injury bug strikes the other side.

Sixers match up extremely well with bucks. Giannis is driving against 6 foot 8 jeff green and 6 foot 9 Blake Griffith. He’s not going to be able to do that vs Embiid.

We have enough perimeter players to guard Middleton and holiday.

The real issue will be how Embiid plays vs Lopez with Giannis helping out. He’s got to trust his teammates and not try to go iso ball.

If harden is still crippled. Sixers have a chance vs nets. If harden and Kyrie both injured. Nets won’t be beating Sixers.
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#38 » by Sixercise » Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:22 am

"If you're going to boo, stay on that side...." #neverforget

We won tonight in spite of him....
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#39 » by rzzzzz » Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:53 pm

He’s got the hand the ball off to Curry and hide thing down pretty good.
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Re: What would Ben have to do in Game 6 to be forgiven? 

Post#40 » by Eyeamok » Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:54 pm

He could get into foul trouble and give way to Maxey!
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