Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2020-21, Part 2

[Shak_Celts]

They almost traded Simmons last year.

He's definitely gone.

To who? That’s a max contract he has. Have you seen the numbers? For a guy who can’t shoot free throws and is hesitant to shoot.

I'd take him if we could afford him but we can't. i want him with the jays and smart and I dont think we could even entertain that contract with two of our guys when I dont want to send 1 of them for him. his d is next level for sure. excellent passer too.

[celticfan42487]

They almost traded Simmons last year.

He's definitely gone.

To who? That’s a max contract he has. Have you seen the numbers? For a guy who can’t shoot free throws and is hesitant to shoot.

I'd take him if we could afford him but we can't. i want him with the jays and smart and I dont think we could even entertain that contract with two of our guys when I dont want to send 1 of them for him. his d is next level for sure. excellent passer too.

Agreed we couldn't afford him.

There's 0 reason to trade like Horford, RG3 and some picks for Simmons if the owners don't agree to pay a LOT of luxury tax so we could resign Marcus Smart the following year.

And between Hayward leaving, us trading for Fournier who is expiring, then trading away a #16 pick for some minor cap space in Horford, Ainge quiting. It's pretty obvious which way the wind is blowing when it comes to the owners wallets.

To be fair, the pandemic hit everyone hard and they're probably just looking for 3-5 years to catch their breath, have the asset appreciate in value, and then decide if they want to go all in or sell the franchise in the open market.

[TheMartian]

Time to head over to the Sixers board and bask in their misery. Hopefully I see some of those Sixers blowhards who trolled us in our game threads all season

The username you are looking for is 6ers83. If you do head over to their board, please do share what this troll had to say about his team. Genuinely curious to find out.

[TheMartian]

To who? That’s a max contract he has. Have you seen the numbers? For a guy who can’t shoot free throws and is hesitant to shoot.

I'd take him if we could afford him but we can't. i want him with the jays and smart and I dont think we could even entertain that contract with two of our guys when I dont want to send 1 of them for him. his d is next level for sure. excellent passer too.

Agreed we couldn't afford him.

There's 0 reason to trade like Horford, RG3 and some picks for Simmons if the owners don't agree to pay a LOT of luxury tax so we could resign Marcus Smart the following year.

And between Hayward leaving, us trading for Fournier who is expiring, then trading away a #16 pick for some minor cap space in Horford, Ainge quiting. It's pretty obvious which way the wind is blowing when it comes to the owners wallets.

To be fair, the pandemic hit everyone hard and they're probably just looking for 3-5 years to catch their breath, have the asset appreciate in value, and then decide if they want to go all in or sell the franchise in the open market.

I think if the C's do try to trade for Simmons, Smart will be one of the players heading out. Hard to see that happening though, especially after how we've heard Brad favors Smart.

[BRUNiNHO91]

collins petty level 1000! wow troll master!

What did he say/do?

[Shak_Celts]

dayum simmons is making 145? that's supermax right? woah


Nvm he makes 177 for 5. Good for him and still wow.

[Shak_Celts]

collins petty level 1000! wow troll master!

What did he say/do?

had the dunk on embiids head on his shirt. cold.

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[zoyathedestroya]

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Yelling at your players obviously works.

FIRE BRAD!!!

[celticfan42487]

I'd take him if we could afford him but we can't. i want him with the jays and smart and I dont think we could even entertain that contract with two of our guys when I dont want to send 1 of them for him. his d is next level for sure. excellent passer too.

Agreed we couldn't afford him.

There's 0 reason to trade like Horford, RG3 and some picks for Simmons if the owners don't agree to pay a LOT of luxury tax so we could resign Marcus Smart the following year.

And between Hayward leaving, us trading for Fournier who is expiring, then trading away a #16 pick for some minor cap space in Horford, Ainge quiting. It's pretty obvious which way the wind is blowing when it comes to the owners wallets.

To be fair, the pandemic hit everyone hard and they're probably just looking for 3-5 years to catch their breath, have the asset appreciate in value, and then decide if they want to go all in or sell the franchise in the open market.

I think if the C's do try to trade for Simmons, Smart will be one of the players heading out. Hard to see that happening though, especially after how we've heard Brad favors Smart.

I want no part of Simmons as a PG and I think the entire league can see what he can and can't do.

If Embiid wasn't their star player he'd be playing Center for a long time now.

They even tried to put him at PF but it just made the spacing even worse.

But yeah if Smart isn't here then I don't want him. I only want Simmons to be paired with Smart, Brown, Tatum. We need both Smart and Simmons to make the defense strong enough to make it worth it. Smart and Simmons together is key for the switch and win every switch everything on defense.

[SuperDeluxe]

Agreed we couldn't afford him.

There's 0 reason to trade like Horford, RG3 and some picks for Simmons if the owners don't agree to pay a LOT of luxury tax so we could resign Marcus Smart the following year.

And between Hayward leaving, us trading for Fournier who is expiring, then trading away a #16 pick for some minor cap space in Horford, Ainge quiting. It's pretty obvious which way the wind is blowing when it comes to the owners wallets.

To be fair, the pandemic hit everyone hard and they're probably just looking for 3-5 years to catch their breath, have the asset appreciate in value, and then decide if they want to go all in or sell the franchise in the open market.

I think if the C's do try to trade for Simmons, Smart will be one of the players heading out. Hard to see that happening though, especially after how we've heard Brad favors Smart.

I want no part of Simmons as a PG and I think the entire league can see what he can and can't do.

If Embiid wasn't their star player he'd be playing Center for a long time now.

They even tried to put him at PF but it just made the spacing even worse.

But yeah if Smart isn't here then I don't want him. I only want Simmons to be paired with Smart, Brown, Tatum. We need both Smart and Simmons to make the defense strong enough to make it worth it. Smart and Simmons together is key for the switch and win every switch everything on defense.

Problem with having both Simmons and Smart is that the former is too afraid to shoot and the latter should be.

[zoyathedestroya]

This is how game highlights should be made.

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[Ill News]

Time to head over to the Sixers board and bask in their misery. Hopefully I see some of those Sixers blowhards who trolled us in our game threads all season

The username you are looking for is 6ers83. If you do head over to their board, please do share what this troll had to say about his team. Genuinely curious to find out.

Thanks friend, that was the **** I was looking for

I searched his username in the Sixers board though, but it turns out his last posts were in Feb. The little **** disappeared, would've wanted to see what he would say after another Sixers collapse

[Shak_Celts]

Simmons is about to get exactly what he's been setting up, to play for LA with his friend LBJ. Let LBJ train him that summer instead of kobe. Even old LBJ is gonna make great use of him.

[celticfan42487]

I think if the C's do try to trade for Simmons, Smart will be one of the players heading out. Hard to see that happening though, especially after how we've heard Brad favors Smart.

I want no part of Simmons as a PG and I think the entire league can see what he can and can't do.

If Embiid wasn't their star player he'd be playing Center for a long time now.

They even tried to put him at PF but it just made the spacing even worse.

But yeah if Smart isn't here then I don't want him. I only want Simmons to be paired with Smart, Brown, Tatum. We need both Smart and Simmons to make the defense strong enough to make it worth it. Smart and Simmons together is key for the switch and win every switch everything on defense.

Problem with having both Simmons and Smart is that the former is too afraid to shoot and the latter should be.

Hahaha

I mean it's true. You're 100% going to need a Kyle Kover, JJ Reddick, Seth Curry, Joe Harris as the 5th man on that starting lineup to make up the difference.

The offense will be questionable and it will rely on Tatum and Brown upping their levels just a tick or two.

Smart at roughly 33% from 3 is still a few %s below average so we'll have to make that up with the surrounding pieces and defense for sure.

[Darthlukey]

This guy is a defensive Center with PG playmaking skills.

Any team that trades for him and plays him the way MIA plays Bam will instantly be extremely happy.

But he can not play with another Center who is low post oriented like Embiid.

This guy just won Defensive Player of the Year for a reason. He is Bam.

I know the Owners have put a mandate on spending any money on the franchise, but I guarantee you if we traded Kemba and the #16 for Ben and played him at the 5 with Tatum, Brown, Smart in the lineup people would unanimously claim us to have the best young core in the NBA.

You just need to play him in the role his skills fit in, and that's as a defensive Center who can facilitate offense or attack the rim rolling off picks. Hell even if you do a pick and pop and he gets a head of steam going downhill he's going to get to the rim or make an excellent pass to an open man the rotating has to defend.

He just like Rondo though has to be the only player on the court who can't shoot or requires to be at the rim to score. And on offense 90% he's on the court you want him to be setting a pick to start the set that way you can unlock him going downhill attacking the rim against a rotating defense which is his 1 offensive tool outside of fantastic dribble and passing.

I agree with this. Surround him with shooters, take advantage of his passing and defense and let the chips fall where they may. Cant play him next to any non-shooters though

he was surrounded by shooters this year tho. I think the guy is really good but this is on him, not the team he had around him.

So long as he plays with Embiid he will never be surrounded by shooters, Embiid will always (rightfully so) be in the lane or posting up. Simmons needs a 4 out offence to be effective, not a 3 out

[Shak_Celts]

I don't want to become a "fan" of Simmons but the way they are killing him over the innanets has me feeling bad for him (I don't care that his filthy rich). They are ripping him to shreds!

[jfs1000d]

Not sure how anyone can loom at any of the 4 teams left and don't think we are a title contender roster base.

Suns, hawks,bucks and clips? AA 1 seed, 2 seed a d a 4\5 seed.

Boston needs health and some vets shooters.

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[batabatuta]

I don't want to become a "fan" of Simmons but the way they are killing him over the innanets has me feeling bad for him (I don't care that his filthy rich). They are ripping him to shreds!

I feel bad for Embiid though. The man gave his all.

[Triple7]

This guy is a defensive Center with PG playmaking skills.

Any team that trades for him and plays him the way MIA plays Bam will instantly be extremely happy.

But he can not play with another Center who is low post oriented like Embiid.

This guy just won Defensive Player of the Year for a reason. He is Bam.

I know the Owners have put a mandate on spending any money on the franchise, but I guarantee you if we traded Kemba and the #16 for Ben and played him at the 5 with Tatum, Brown, Smart in the lineup people would unanimously claim us to have the best young core in the NBA.

You just need to play him in the role his skills fit in, and that's as a defensive Center who can facilitate offense or attack the rim rolling off picks. Hell even if you do a pick and pop and he gets a head of steam going downhill he's going to get to the rim or make an excellent pass to an open man the rotating has to defend.

He just like Rondo though has to be the only player on the court who can't shoot or requires to be at the rim to score. And on offense 90% he's on the court you want him to be setting a pick to start the set that way you can unlock him going downhill attacking the rim against a rotating defense which is his 1 offensive tool outside of fantastic dribble and passing.

I agree with this. Surround him with shooters, take advantage of his passing and defense and let the chips fall where they may. Cant play him next to any non-shooters though

I will admit this has been an obsession of mine for awhile haha and I've had us trading IT, Irving, and Kemba for Simmons for years now haha.

Tatum is developing some playmaking, and Smart is a fine secondary playmaker, Brown has never had it. And well that's where Mr Triple Double DPOY contender Simmons comes in to fill that final role on offense.

Smart has also developed a below average 3 point shot but it's now in the Draymond Green level which is good enough to still take them.

Smart
someone who can shoot a 3
Brown
Tatum
Simmons


I swear that's the best defensive team in the league, like Ben Wallace Pistons level defense, and with 40% 3 point shooters Tatum and Brown. As well as a guy to give the ball to and get the F out of the way to win the game time in Tatum. That's all you need.

And the best part would be Smart 27 years old, Brown 24, Tatum 23, Simmons 24

They'd have about 8 years for a run, and it would come down to Brown and Tatum getting just a little better than they are now to make sure we get enough offense. But that's a 2020s defensive stud team.

It doesn’t matter if you surround Simmons with a bunch of shooters, he will continue to be a liablity on offense, especially in the 4th in a close game. Until he tries and learn to shoot. No team will succeed in the playoffs with him in the lineup. Hack a Ben all the way in the 4th. We don’t need that distraction. Ben Simmons is a nightmare for his team. He plays point, but can’t shoot, and when he handles the ball, they would just constantly foul him. Unless he develops some form of shooting, most especially from the feee throw line at least, then ot’s a hard hard pass.

[London2Boston]

I think Simmons would actually thrive next to the Jays, but obviously there’s no real way of bringing him here without losing one of them so in that case, keep far away.