Ben Simmons Trade Thread

[Stanford]

they were stomping and burning his jersey last night yall.

Meh, those people are losers.

[eyeatoma]

Best option is for both sides to part ways now.

Would you trade him for Kemba Walker?

No

Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk

[eyeatoma]

https://theathletic.com/2664449/2021/06/21/hollinger-ben-simmons-trade-seems-inevitable-after-the-pass-but-how-can-sixers-pull-it-off?source=user-shared-article

Hollinger thinks that Lavine is doable.

Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk

[Stanford]

Best option is for both sides to part ways now.

Would you trade him for Kemba Walker?

No

What if that's the only kind of deal available?

[ProcessDoctor]

https://theathletic.com/2664449/2021/06/21/hollinger-ben-simmons-trade-seems-inevitable-after-the-pass-but-how-can-sixers-pull-it-off?source=user-shared-article

Hollinger thinks that Lavine is doable.

Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk

Any other interesting tidbits for those of us who don't have access?

[Murray_17]

I still take the CJ deal, i even take a Powell/RoCo deal.

Yeah, none of those deals really move the needle for us but CJ is more tradeable than Ben right now, so that give us more flexibility. Powell and RoCo are expirings so it will be super easy to use them on a move for a Great piece if we attach players like Mattise or Maxey.

[Arsenal]

Would you trade him for Kemba Walker?

No

What if that's the only kind of deal available?

Then wait.

[sixers hoops]

Must be 2 Kyrie’s. Certainly can’t be talking about trading Kyrie Irving for Ben Simmons and calling that a win win for both teams. The Nets would block Daryl Morey’s number

Not straight we would need to also bleed picks .. but they need defense, and they know it.

If they had Kyrie they would be on their way to playing the Hawks right now

Yeah, I could see some motivation from the Nets eventually to move Kyrie, but right now they just need to run it back and see if they can stay healthy.

[Eyeamok]

It's crazy the amount of speculation around Ben right now. Chances are if there is a deal to be made you won't hear about it until it done or just about to be done. Secondly a rush to make a deal now is an emotional one. And usually those don't work out well.

I'd almost like to think that Morey had or has a deal in place that is why Doc was so free with his critique of Simmons last night. But I feel comfortable with Morey at the helm.

[Stanford]

No

What if that's the only kind of deal available?

Then wait.

Just trying to make a point to eyeatoma specifically lol

[sixers hoops]

No

What if that's the only kind of deal available?

Then wait.

I’m not in the “we have to move Ben no matter what!” camp.

He was pathetic, but they were the ones letting him pretend to be a point guard with no perimeter game.

If none of the offers are sufficient, I would consider keeping him and showcase him in a different role.

With that being said, my definition of sufficient is very realistic. Ben excels at a few aspects of the game, but he will most likely always be a scared, reluctant shooter. He may get back to hitting 60%+ free throws, and being aggressive around the basket, but I don’t ever see a good shooter.

Him as a forward with Jo and Tobias is not something I want to see very much of, but would do it to rehab his value. It’s just a waste of time. Tobias and Embiid don’t really function as floor spacers, so Ben is a horrible fit when we are hoping to improve to title contention.

[sixers hoops]

I still take the CJ deal, i even take a Powell/RoCo deal.

Yeah, none of those deals really move the needle for us but CJ is more tradeable than Ben right now, so that give us more flexibility. Powell and RoCo are expirings so it will be super easy to use them on a move for a Great piece if we attach players like Mattise or Maxey.

I like CJ. You throw in Roco or Powell, and I’m even more in. CJ is not ideal, but we arent sending much in return.

[Negrodamus]

We cannot trade Simmons. Value is too low. Better to get assets for Embiid and build around Simmons. If that doesn’t light a fire in Simmons. Nothing will because all the pressure will be on him to run the team.

I don't think I could watch the Sixers for a while if they did that.

EDIT: for my mental health, maybe do that trade.

[Arsenal]

What if that's the only kind of deal available?

Then wait.

I’m not in the “we have to move Ben no matter what!” camp.

He was pathetic, but they were the ones letting him pretend to be a point guard with no perimeter game.

If none of the offers are sufficient, I would consider keeping him and showcase him in a different role.

With that being said, my definition of sufficient is very realistic. Ben excels at a few aspects of the game, but he will most likely always be a scared, reluctant shooter. He may get back to hitting 60%+ free throws, and being aggressive around the basket, but I don’t ever see a good shooter.

Him as a forward with Jo and Tobias is not something I want to see very much of, but would do it to rehab his value. It’s just a waste of time. Tobias and Embiid don’t really function as floor spacers, so Ben is a horrible fit when we are hoping to improve to title contention.

The fact they don't fit is exactly why now is the optimal time to sell high not on Ben Simmons, but on Tobias Harris.

Then let Ben rehab value playing forward and backup center where he belongs.

Give the PG keys to whoever we get back (CJ?) and/or Maxey.

[sixers hoops]

https://theathletic.com/2664449/2021/06/21/hollinger-ben-simmons-trade-seems-inevitable-after-the-pass-but-how-can-sixers-pull-it-off?source=user-shared-article

Hollinger thinks that Lavine is doable.

Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk

Surprised. Even if another GM thought we were misusing Ben, and they could get a lot more out of him by playing him at a position he is suited for, why trade that value for him? Maybe if two or three GMs really like him, we can get something decent.

[Murray_17]

I still take the CJ deal, i even take a Powell/RoCo deal.

Yeah, none of those deals really move the needle for us but CJ is more tradeable than Ben right now, so that give us more flexibility. Powell and RoCo are expirings so it will be super easy to use them on a move for a Great piece if we attach players like Mattise or Maxey.

I like CJ. You throw in Roco or Powell, and I’m even more in. CJ is not ideal, but we arent sending much in return.

We can make CJ for Ben straight, no picks, no expirings no nothing.

The other option is doing Powell/RoCo for Ben plus compensation.

The 3 Blazers players cannot be in the same deal because salaries don't match, unless we put a lot more of garbage in. But that deal also would totally gut the Blazers depth. I think our options are the two deals i mention

[Stanford]

I think we're stuck with him, honestly. Lol

[sixers hoops]

Then wait.

I’m not in the “we have to move Ben no matter what!” camp.

He was pathetic, but they were the ones letting him pretend to be a point guard with no perimeter game.

If none of the offers are sufficient, I would consider keeping him and showcase him in a different role.

With that being said, my definition of sufficient is very realistic. Ben excels at a few aspects of the game, but he will most likely always be a scared, reluctant shooter. He may get back to hitting 60%+ free throws, and being aggressive around the basket, but I don’t ever see a good shooter.

Him as a forward with Jo and Tobias is not something I want to see very much of, but would do it to rehab his value. It’s just a waste of time. Tobias and Embiid don’t really function as floor spacers, so Ben is a horrible fit when we are hoping to improve to title contention.

The fact they don't fit is exactly why now is the optimal time to sell high not on Ben Simmons, but on Tobias Harris.

Then let Ben rehab value playing forward and backup center where he belongs.

Give the PG keys to whoever we get back (CJ?) and/or Maxey.

I think there would be outrage by some if they moved Tobias and kept Ben, but that’s why emotional fans can’t be in charge of trades.

[Arsenal]

I still take the CJ deal, i even take a Powell/RoCo deal.

Yeah, none of those deals really move the needle for us but CJ is more tradeable than Ben right now, so that give us more flexibility. Powell and RoCo are expirings so it will be super easy to use them on a move for a Great piece if we attach players like Mattise or Maxey.

I like CJ. You throw in Roco or Powell, and I’m even more in. CJ is not ideal, but we arent sending much in return.

We can make Cj for Ben straight, no picks, no expirings no nothing.

The other option is doing Powell/RoCo for Ben.

The 3 players cannot be in the same deal because salaries don't match unless we put a lot more of garbage in

We need RoCo back in the deal. They can have Thybulle who they covet.

Ben + Thybulle for CJ + RoCo. They have to throw in picks too.

[Murray_17]

We need RoCo back in the deal. They can have Thybulle who they covet.

Ben + Thybulle for CJ + RoCo. They have to throw in picks too.

We add 8 million with this, i'll put Hill there for matching purposes.

However, if you want picks too the Blazers hang the phone.