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Are we sure Cade is the pick?

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Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#1 » by NYPiston » Wed Jun 23, 2021 4:47 am

I can't sleep because I'm still wired but now that I've had time to process it a little bit, a dark thought came into my mind that Weaver might fall in love with Mobley and pass on Cade because of Killian at point guard as the lead facilitator and his, admitted, affection for centers.
In fairness, I think it's a very very slight possibility but I can't shake the feeling that it is a possibility nonetheless.

I know we have a lot of draft lottery threads but I thought this deserved it's own thread. So can you guys talk me down from the ledge? haha
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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#2 » by The Moose » Wed Jun 23, 2021 4:50 am

I trust Weaver and his scouts, if they really really felt like someone else is the pick, then so be it.
I would say its extremely likely Cade is the pick though

also fwiw i think if they were trading down Green would be the target
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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#3 » by DetroitSho » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:05 am

NYPiston wrote:I can't sleep because I'm still wired but now that I've had time to process it a little bit, a dark thought came into my mind that Weaver might fall in love with Mobley and pass on Cade because of Killian at point guard as the lead facilitator and his, admitted, affection for centers.
In fairness, I think it's a very very slight possibility but I can't shake the feeling that it is a possibility nonetheless.

I know we have a lot of draft lottery threads but I thought this deserved it's own thread. So can you guys talk me down from the ledge? haha
Bruh, go to bed.

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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#4 » by tmorgan » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:13 am

I’m 99% sure Cade is the first pick. I’m only 75% sure we’ll be the one making it. Weaver is Weaver.
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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#5 » by buzzkilloton » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:14 am

Hell yeah he is the pick. Hes going to be on the low end Middleton, middle end Tatum, high end Luka from reading most scouts takes. Holliginer projects him more of a Middleton/Tatum type but Cade himself mirrors his game as Luka. Great thing about Cade is with a guy of his size 6'8 7foot wingspan with his outside shooting ability were looking at a really high floor plus and hes got a really nice ceiling as a prospect.

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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#6 » by mrroboto4889 » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:39 am

I echo the thought that "consensus #1 pick" means that analysts and idiots like us on the internet are just parroting what other people have said and what we've read. If the Pistons scouts decide someone else is the pick, that's who I want them to take. Consensus #1 picks include Fultz over Tatum. My only concern would be if there's value to be gained from trading down if that's the case.
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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#7 » by Snakebites » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:44 am

Yes.
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Post#8 » by Pharaoh » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:49 am

Can never be sure until the pick is made but Cade has been universally regarded as the #1 pick for a while.

The fact his skillset actually fits so well is a added bonus.

Mobley, Green & Suggs would fit too but it's a little bit different with Cade considering how the game is played now.

You need multiple playmakers on the floor - Cade is arguably the best playmaking prospect in this Draft.

You need shooters all over the floor - I believe Cade shot above 40% from the college 3.

You need size and length all over the floor - Cade has that.

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Post#9 » by vege » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:53 am

Yes he is.
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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#10 » by EliteSmarts » Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:00 am

Jalen Green is darkhorse. Green is dynamic scorer and reports of Weaver being big fan of Green.
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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#11 » by tmorgan » Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:11 am

Cade is a bigger, slower SGA. The less athletic part seems damning until you understand that athleticism is only a very small part of his game. He’s so shifty, good length, good shot, great vision, good defense. So much to work with. I love Green, but Cade is the correct pick unless you trade down with Houston and rob them blind with additional draft compensation.
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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#12 » by ElectricMayhem » Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:24 am

I'm not upset if the Pistons end up with Green or Mobley with a lot of extra draft capital attached. Only Weaver knows how much it would take. I fully expect Cade to be a Piston, though.
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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#13 » by SamFlow » Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:40 am

EliteSmarts wrote:Jalen Green is darkhorse. Green is dynamic scorer and reports of Weaver being big fan of Green.

I've been thinking green, but I'm back on the cade team. too versitile and has the outside shot. I'm wondering if he would be big enough to play pf.
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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#14 » by SamFlow » Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:41 am

ElectricMayhem wrote:I'm not upset if the Pistons end up with Green or Mobley with a lot of extra draft capital attached. Only Weaver knows how much it would take. I fully expect Cade to be a Piston, though.

Mobley doesn't impress me and isn't the type of big man center than weaver likes. Mobley would be more of a pf, but he weights the same or lighter than cade. after cade, aw who knows. I've not paid any real attention and will trust weaver to make the right calls.
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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#15 » by 440BB » Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:37 am

After last years roller coaster in the first round, Weaver may be the most boring GM this year.
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Post#16 » by rmfc » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:28 pm

EliteSmarts wrote:Jalen Green is darkhorse. Green is dynamic scorer and reports of Weaver being big fan of Green.


Green is my favorite in this draft class...but that's purely based on the excitement he could bring on every play.

Unless we get a king's ransom (to trade down to #2), Weaver should and will just draft Cade.
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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#17 » by Manocad » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:04 pm

Are WE sure? No. But Weaver better be damn sure, that much I can tell you.

I absolutely wanted Green at #2 but I damn sure wanted Cade at #1. No question, no debate, 100%. I wasn't sold on him being a potential generational talent during the season, but watching him in the tournament made me decide that while maybe still not a generational Jordan/Lebron, he's as close as you can reasonably expect to get. Point being, if you get a shot at him, you take him. Period.

Plus there's no reason whatsoever to try to get an assumed "more" for him by trading the pick. The Pistons are in a great position right now. There's no need to rush. As I've always said, during a rebuild you get to a point where you have to stop for a minute and let things play out. That time for the Pistons is right now, IMO.
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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#18 » by Manocad » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:06 pm

440BB wrote:After last years roller coaster in the first round, Weaver may be the most boring GM this year.

Yeah, no doubt. He'll have the phone in the draft room hooked up to a messaging service that answers, says "Hello--Troy Weaver of the Detroit Pistons...no." And hangs up.
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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#19 » by The Moose » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:07 pm

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EliteSmarts wrote:Jalen Green is darkhorse. Green is dynamic scorer and reports of Weaver being big fan of Green.


Green is my favorite in this draft class...but that's purely based on the excitement he could bring on every play.

Unless we get a king's ransom (to trade down to #2), Weaver should and will just draft Cade.


I think you could argue that Green has a higher ceiling. However I think Cade’s floor as a player is just so much higher and he has a high ceiling.

It’s hard for me to imagine a scenario where Cade isn’t at least an all star calibre player, where as I could see Green being anything from a 6th man spark plug guy to an all nba guy and everything in between.

Overall though, I’ll favour Cade
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Re: Are we sure Cade is the pick? 

Post#20 » by DCintheD » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:08 pm

It’s time everyone starts trusting Weaver.
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