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snadler wrote:Nope not interested wouldn’t want him for free..a selfish player that teammates hate playing with that was unable to even make the cavs competitive..
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
snadler wrote:Amazing when people post this stuff without realizing some important information, and ask themselves why would an awful cavs team want to trade a 22 year old that averaged 24 points a game. But as usual are solely looking at stats, for one players hated him, he’s ball dominant and selfish and because he’s put up numbers on a really bad team his agent is going to seek max money. So with this knowledge explain why or how he’s a GOOD fit for the knicks?
snadler wrote:Nope not interested wouldn’t want him for free..a selfish player that teammates hate playing with that was unable to even make the cavs competitive..
Appleshampoo wrote:snadler wrote:Amazing when people post this stuff without realizing some important information, and ask themselves why would an awful cavs team want to trade a 22 year old that averaged 24 points a game. But as usual are solely looking at stats, for one players hated him, he’s ball dominant and selfish and because he’s put up numbers on a really bad team his agent is going to seek max money. So with this knowledge explain why or how he’s a GOOD fit for the knicks?
The Cavs drafted a more traditional point guard in Darius Garland. They'd rather work with Garland and commit to Jarrett Allen. Also, it's Cleveland who is small market and paying Kevin Love $30 million. They're more inclined to trade now instead of Sexton walking for nothing. If the Cavs drafted RJ Barrett or DeAndre Hunter would they have no interest in keeping Colin Sexton? Maybe not.
nykballa2k4 wrote:mpharris36 wrote:god shammgod wrote:i don't know. i understand the concept that you have to trade for these kind of guys before they break out or they're not available, i just don't believe. something about him screams this is a mistake. lol
smallerish guys always have more risk. But if you look at Sexton's first 3 years to Booker's first 3 years...they are very similar with a slight edge to Sexton for efficiency.
To me the big red flag is that Cavaliers are not wanting to max him. They drafted him because they were high on him. They see him in practice, know what he is like, know what his work ethic is.
If they are willing to trade him for peanuts, it's because they know something we don't.
If they are looking to move him, and say Love, for KP, I can understand that. I don't see us being able to give them anything they want outside of Barrett for him.
snadler wrote:Amazing when people post this stuff without realizing some important information, and ask themselves why would an awful cavs team want to trade a 22 year old that averaged 24 points a game. But as usual are solely looking at stats, for one players hated him, he’s ball dominant and selfish and because he’s put up numbers on a really bad team his agent is going to seek max money. So with this knowledge explain why or how he’s a GOOD fit for the knicks?
DaGawd wrote:snadler wrote:Amazing when people post this stuff without realizing some important information, and ask themselves why would an awful cavs team want to trade a 22 year old that averaged 24 points a game. But as usual are solely looking at stats, for one players hated him, he’s ball dominant and selfish and because he’s put up numbers on a really bad team his agent is going to seek max money. So with this knowledge explain why or how he’s a GOOD fit for the knicks?
You answered your own question. The Cavs are an awful team.. awful organization. They don’t know wtf they’re doing
Meat wrote:snadler wrote:Amazing when people post this stuff without realizing some important information, and ask themselves why would an awful cavs team want to trade a 22 year old that averaged 24 points a game. But as usual are solely looking at stats, for one players hated him, he’s ball dominant and selfish and because he’s put up numbers on a really bad team his agent is going to seek max money. So with this knowledge explain why or how he’s a GOOD fit for the knicks?
you really cant infer the answer?
1) Garland
2) high draft pick this year in a super talented guard draft
3) small market team
4) kevin love's albatross of a contract
god shammgod wrote:DaGawd wrote:snadler wrote:Amazing when people post this stuff without realizing some important information, and ask themselves why would an awful cavs team want to trade a 22 year old that averaged 24 points a game. But as usual are solely looking at stats, for one players hated him, he’s ball dominant and selfish and because he’s put up numbers on a really bad team his agent is going to seek max money. So with this knowledge explain why or how he’s a GOOD fit for the knicks?
You answered your own question. The Cavs are an awful team.. awful organization. They don’t know wtf they’re doing
they know you can't pay, or play really, 2 small guards and they're choosing garland over him. that is the right decision.
Meat wrote:nykballa2k4 wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
smallerish guys always have more risk. But if you look at Sexton's first 3 years to Booker's first 3 years...they are very similar with a slight edge to Sexton for efficiency.
To me the big red flag is that Cavaliers are not wanting to max him. They drafted him because they were high on him. They see him in practice, know what he is like, know what his work ethic is.
If they are willing to trade him for peanuts, it's because they know something we don't.
If they are looking to move him, and say Love, for KP, I can understand that. I don't see us being able to give them anything they want outside of Barrett for him.
how do you know they want peanuts?
also he's steadily improved his first 3 years, you think he's doing so with a **** work ethic?
DaGawd wrote:god shammgod wrote:DaGawd wrote:You answered your own question. The Cavs are an awful team.. awful organization. They don’t know wtf they’re doing
they know you can't pay, or play really, 2 small guards and they're choosing garland over him. that is the right decision.
I don’t really rate Garland but that’s their decision. I agree the 2 of them can’t play together tho
snadler wrote:Appleshampoo wrote:snadler wrote:Amazing when people post this stuff without realizing some important information, and ask themselves why would an awful cavs team want to trade a 22 year old that averaged 24 points a game. But as usual are solely looking at stats, for one players hated him, he’s ball dominant and selfish and because he’s put up numbers on a really bad team his agent is going to seek max money. So with this knowledge explain why or how he’s a GOOD fit for the knicks?
The Cavs drafted a more traditional point guard in Darius Garland. They'd rather work with Garland and commit to Jarrett Allen. Also, it's Cleveland who is small market and paying Kevin Love $30 million. They're more inclined to trade now instead of Sexton walking for nothing. If the Cavs drafted RJ Barrett or DeAndre Hunter would they have no interest in keeping Colin Sexton? Maybe not.
Why do you think they are choosing Garland over him? Despite sexton putting up much better numbers? You know the answer as does everyone else which is why the knicks won’t nor should they have any interest in him
3toheadmelo wrote:One of the reasons I am all for it is cause our options are very limited
We can either overpay for Lonzo/Schroder/Reggie Jackson
Or take a gamble on a 22 year old putting up Devin Booker numbers
It’s a no brainer for me
Woodsanity wrote:Unless we can get him without dumping anything too valuable, no. He is a pretty good scorer who plays no defense. Guys like that are a dime a dozen.
DaGawd wrote:I’d be reluctant to trade Obi after how he looked in the playoffs and late in the season. But if push come to shove for Sexton I think I’d have to do it since he’s backing up Randle here and probably will never be given the lion share of minutes he needs to really make an impact
Jeff Van Gully wrote:DaGawd wrote:I’d be reluctant to trade Obi after how he looked in the playoffs and late in the season. But if push come to shove for Sexton I think I’d have to do it since he’s backing up Randle here and probably will never be given the lion share of minutes he needs to really make an impact
i don't know. i think we can find a guard without giving up so much.
god shammgod wrote:i'm trying to find a way not to max out sexton and randle. if i have to believe in obi to do so, so be it lol. please work with me. because honestly, does that sound like a championship duo to you ?
K-DOT wrote:He's one of those guys who put up big numbers but haven't been able to translate it into winning yet. And it's not just the Cavs sucking, they have been worse with him on the court every year, while someone like Garland, they were significantly better this year with him on
If you think Thibs can reach him like he did with Randle, it's a good risk, and he would probably be the best "realistic" option for us at PG
It also does come down to the price. I might even consider taking Love on if it meant not giving up firsts for him.
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