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Post#21 » by CP War Hawks » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:59 am

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Cam is questionable for game 1. Let's friggin go. His shot selection needs working on but this means less Solo.
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Post#24 » by HMFFL » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:51 pm

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I sure hope he plays.
Let's start the series off with some positive news. Go Hawks!

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Post#25 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:06 pm

The Bucks-Hawks Series Could Come Down To One Area Of The Court

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The proliferation of 3-pointers and the (alleged) death of the midrange game often dominate the NBA conversation this time of year. But there’s a small part of the court that might be just as important yet doesn’t get much attention: inside the paint but outside the restricted area. That very specific battleground could very well decide the 2021 Eastern Conference finals.

Over the past three seasons, only two NBA teams have allowed more shots from that area of the floor than the Milwaukee Bucks, according to Second Spectrum. During that same time, just five players have attempted more shots from that region than Atlanta Hawks point guard Trae Young.

During the first two rounds of these playoffs, no player attempted more of those shots than Young (97). The next-closest player, though, is Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo (87). How the Bucks and Hawks defenses, respectively, deal with Young and Antetokounmpo in the back of the paint will be a significant factor in determining which of their teams moves on to represent the East in the NBA Finals.

In the lone regular-season matchup between these two teams that Young actually played, 11 of his 17 shots came from this area of the floor. He connected on just three of those 11 attempts, bothered by the size and length of Brook Lopez in front of him and Jrue Holiday behind him.

Young is certainly capable of making those shots, though, and of capitalizing in different ways on teams forcing him to create offense from that area of the floor, rather than at the rim or outside the arc.

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The Bucks have a tricky balance to strike in this series. Their defense is designed to force Young to that area of the floor, but they have to do it while ensuring that a) Lopez and/or Antetokounmpo forcefully contests his shot; without b) giving up a lob pass to Capela or Collins; while c) Holiday1 contests Young from behind; and d) everyone else stays home on shooters, so as to avoid Kevin Huerter, Bogdan Bogdanović or Danilo Gallinari going off like they each have at various points this postseason. Most importantly, everyone involved needs to avoid fouls that send Young to the line for 2 (or 3) relatively easy points; he has been an 86.1 percent free-throw shooter during his three-year career.

It’s an unenviable task, and one that the Knicks and Sixers — the fourth- and second-best regular-season defenses — each failed to varying degrees.

The Bucks offense — as dreadful as it has seemed at times during their own run to the conference finals — presents a different level of difficulty. Antetokounmpo, specifically, poses a different challenge than either Embiid or Julius Randle, largely because he is surrounded by effective shooters whom the Hawks may not be able to ignore in order to clog the paint.
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Post#27 » by Jez2983 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:03 am

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Well I think he's made up for it now :lol:

This is super weird that I'm not that upset that we lost. We did some really rubbish things, Trae, Collins and Clint were excellent but I'm still stoked there's no superteam left in the playoffs :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#28 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:06 am

Jez2983 wrote:This is super weird that I'm not that upset that we lost. We did some really rubbish things, Trae, Collins and Clint were excellent but I'm still stoked there's no superteam left in the playoffs :lol: :lol: :lol:



You guys definitely have the better team at this point. (Especially with all of our injuries.)

Budenholzer...is...whew. Still Bud.

I had you guys as the favorite to win the title like 3 hours ago. But I now suspect both of us are just chasing a healthy Phoenix team at this point...

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Post#29 » by Jez2983 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:22 am

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Jez2983 wrote:This is super weird that I'm not that upset that we lost. We did some really rubbish things, Trae, Collins and Clint were excellent but I'm still stoked there's no superteam left in the playoffs :lol: :lol: :lol:



You guys definitely have the better team at this point. (Especially with all of our injuries.)

Budenholzer...is...whew. Still Bud.

I had you guys as the favorite to win the title like 3 hours ago. But I now suspect both of us are just chasing a healthy Phoenix team at this point...

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He certainly is...

We were discussing that if we were to get to the finals, containing Trae would be some preparation for that. On the evidence of the first game, lol.
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Post#30 » by HMFFL » Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:34 pm

Sarah K. Spencer: No updates on Trae Young or Clint Capela from Nate McMillan. McMillan says he hasn’t met with the training staff yet to get those updates (today is a travel day for the team).

 

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Post#31 » by HMFFL » Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:34 pm

Kevin Chouinard: Nate McMillan on Cam Reddish: “I’ve only coached Cam for 2 or 3 games … The kid has a lot of talent.” pic.twitter.com/938aYGF5jy

 

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Post#32 » by CP War Hawks » Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:43 pm

It's no way they play Giannis next game so I figure sit Trae down as well. Game 6 and the home crowd can give him the boost to overcome the pain while getting him some decent rest.

Cam and Pierce apparently had a poor relationship. A guy like Nate has been through the wars as a player and coach so his word carries more weight to the guys it appears.

Onyeka is evidently the Giannis stopper. Kid has a strong base and stonewalls him forcing him to end his dribble mid drive, buying more time for help.

Lou came up roses game 4. Bogi had a pep in his step, he made three 3s in a row in the 3rd right after Giannis got hurt and that basically decided the game. K'von is growing up in these playoffs.
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Post#33 » by HMFFL » Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:06 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:It's no way they play Giannis next game so I figure sit Trae down as well. Game 6 and the home crowd can give him the boost to overcome the pain while getting him some decent rest.

Cam and Pierce apparently had a poor relationship. A guy like Nate has been through the wars as a player and coach so his word carries more weight to the guys it appears.

Onyeka is evidently the Giannis stopper. Kid has a strong base and stonewalls him forcing him to end his dribble mid drive, buying more time for help.

Lou came up roses game 4. Bogi had a pep in his step, he made three 3s in a row in the 3rd right after Giannis got hurt and that basically decided the game. K'von is growing up in these playoffs.
I have had a similar bone bruise like Trae has had a few times. It can be a quick recovery or linger for a week. If he's fine he needs to play and gsne five is a must win.

Onyeka shows all the signs that he's going to have a productive career. I like the potential.

Lou Williams has been amazing. I don't believe Rondo would have made the impact Lou has and we even received a second round pick. I hope we consider extending him this offseason.

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Post#34 » by CP War Hawks » Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:31 pm

They have to make sure his foot is healthy enough to take on more trauma ie Jrue/Milwaukee goon stepping on it.

If Trae can go next game, I would still let Lou start and let him come off the bench. If lou struggles next game which is likely then Young gets the minutes.
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Post#35 » by HMFFL » Thu Jul 1, 2021 2:58 am

Hawks wearing MLK jerseys for the first time on the road for Game 5



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Post#36 » by jayu70 » Thu Jul 1, 2021 2:29 pm

HMFFL wrote:Hawks wearing MLK jerseys for the first time on the road for Game 5



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I think that's incorrect. It's the black Statement Jerseys for G5. MLK for G6 at home.
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Post#37 » by HMFFL » Thu Jul 1, 2021 4:00 pm

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HMFFL wrote:Hawks wearing MLK jerseys for the first time on the road for Game 5



https://www.sportstalkatl.com/report-hawks-wearing-mlk-jerseys-for-the-first-time-on-the-road-for-game-5/

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I think that's incorrect. It's the black Statement Jerseys for G5. MLK for G6 at home.
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