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2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#921 » by MalagaBulls » Sat Jul 3, 2021 4:00 pm

alpngso wrote:
MalagaBulls wrote:Back again, how many 1sts plus PWill would it take to pry FVV from you guys?


Not high on PWill?
We are, but being in "Win Now mode" we need that 3rd wheel which FVV is perfect for.
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#922 » by Bruin » Sat Jul 3, 2021 4:16 pm

MalagaBulls wrote:
alpngso wrote:
MalagaBulls wrote:Back again, how many 1sts plus PWill would it take to pry FVV from you guys?


Not high on PWill?
We are, but being in "Win Now mode" we need that 3rd wheel which FVV is perfect for.

How many 1sts are you thinking you’d be willing realistically?
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#923 » by AbC? » Sat Jul 3, 2021 4:46 pm

MalagaBulls wrote:Back again, how many 1sts plus PWill would it take to pry FVV from you guys?


Stop underrating your rook lol. He had an amazing year for such a young prospect.

If you guys offered him in a deal for FVV we'd accept instantly :lol:
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Post#924 » by MessiahUjiri » Sat Jul 3, 2021 6:57 pm

Clippers - Raptors deal around Lowry:

Kyle Lowry (SnT - 20M/3 yrs)
for
Ivica Zubac + Pat Beverly



Zubac is a starting caliber center, and at 24 years old, he’s a young vet who is primed to peak with our core. Beverly is on an expiring contract, and can be flipped to a contender for a couple of seconds.

Fred / Trent / OG / Siakam / Zubac
Flynn / Suggs / Boucher / Birch
Pat Bev + Bembry as spot vets
Add the MLE (~$9.5M)
Add 2 seconds
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#925 » by douggood » Sat Jul 3, 2021 6:59 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:Clippers - Raptors deal around Lowry:

Kyle Lowry (SnT - 20M/3 yrs)
for
Ivica Zubac + Pat Beverly



Zubac is a starting caliber center, and at 24 years old, he’s a young vet who is primed to peak with our core. Beverly is on an expiring contract, and can be flipped to a contender for a couple of seconds.

Fred / Trent / OG / Siakam / Zubac
Flynn / Suggs / Boucher / Birch
Pat Bev + Bembry as spot vets
Add the MLE (~$9.5M)
Add 2 seconds

there is a clippers tax; they would need to include more.
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Post#926 » by MessiahUjiri » Sat Jul 3, 2021 7:06 pm

douggood wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:Clippers - Raptors deal around Lowry:

Kyle Lowry (SnT - 20M/3 yrs)
for
Ivica Zubac + Pat Beverly



Zubac is a starting caliber center, and at 24 years old, he’s a young vet who is primed to peak with our core. Beverly is on an expiring contract, and can be flipped to a contender for a couple of seconds.

Fred / Trent / OG / Siakam / Zubac
Flynn / Suggs / Boucher / Birch
Pat Bev + Bembry as spot vets
Add the MLE (~$9.5M)
Add 2 seconds

there is a clippers tax; they would need to include more.



I hate them as much as you do. But transactions are about future assets, and I’ll make a deal with anyone in the league if it helps us win.
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#927 » by Spida888 » Sat Jul 3, 2021 7:53 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:
douggood wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:Clippers - Raptors deal around Lowry:

Kyle Lowry (SnT - 20M/3 yrs)
for
Ivica Zubac + Pat Beverly



Zubac is a starting caliber center, and at 24 years old, he’s a young vet who is primed to peak with our core. Beverly is on an expiring contract, and can be flipped to a contender for a couple of seconds.

Fred / Trent / OG / Siakam / Zubac
Flynn / Suggs / Boucher / Birch
Pat Bev + Bembry as spot vets
Add the MLE (~$9.5M)
Add 2 seconds

there is a clippers tax; they would need to include more.



I hate them as much as you do. But transactions are about future assets, and I’ll make a deal with anyone in the league if it helps us win.


I think Clippers can trade their 2028th FRP right :lol:, can ask them to include that as well. Don't think they will give us Terance Mann.

Alternatively we can work out a deal and tell them on draft night who to draft with their #25 pick. Then that guy gets tossed into this trade.

Out of curiosity, if Clippers had Lowry in the playoffs instead of Zubac and Beverly, do you think they beat the Suns? Lowry would have taken off some load off of PG, and would have contributed in multiple ways.
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#928 » by Syd-TK3 » Sat Jul 3, 2021 8:02 pm

AbC? wrote:
MalagaBulls wrote:Back again, how many 1sts plus PWill would it take to pry FVV from you guys?


Stop underrating your rook lol. He had an amazing year for such a young prospect.

If you guys offered him in a deal for FVV we'd accept instantly :lol:

Definitely making that trade lol
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#929 » by Syd-TK3 » Sat Jul 3, 2021 8:05 pm

If Siakam's surgery wasn't a thing I think Boucher probably woulda been traded this offseason. But our foward situation is really thin.
If you can somehow use him to get JT Thor though it would make so much sense
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Post#930 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun Jul 4, 2021 12:01 am

The best deal I've seen come up here throughout the last couple of pages was

Lowry to the Lakers
Shroder to the bulls
Lauri to the raps

I'm noteven that big on Lauri due to being a defensive liability, but atleast he's a young prospect.

A bench front court of Lauri and Boucher could pass
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#931 » by NotMyKawhi » Sun Jul 4, 2021 3:19 am

MalagaBulls wrote:
alpngso wrote:
MalagaBulls wrote:Back again, how many 1sts plus PWill would it take to pry FVV from you guys?


Not high on PWill?
We are, but being in "Win Now mode" we need that 3rd wheel which FVV is perfect for.


Deal!

P will and a 2027 unprotected 1st, swap rights in 2028 will be enough
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#932 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Sun Jul 4, 2021 3:22 am

MessiahUjiri wrote:
douggood wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:Clippers - Raptors deal around Lowry:

Kyle Lowry (SnT - 20M/3 yrs)
for
Ivica Zubac + Pat Beverly



Zubac is a starting caliber center, and at 24 years old, he’s a young vet who is primed to peak with our core. Beverly is on an expiring contract, and can be flipped to a contender for a couple of seconds.

Fred / Trent / OG / Siakam / Zubac
Flynn / Suggs / Boucher / Birch
Pat Bev + Bembry as spot vets
Add the MLE (~$9.5M)
Add 2 seconds

there is a clippers tax; they would need to include more.



I hate them as much as you do. But transactions are about future assets, and I’ll make a deal with anyone in the league if it helps us win.

He's not saying he wouldn't deal with them but just that they'd have to pay more.
As far as the trade goes, no Beverly please. Either replace him with Rondo or shunt him to a third team. Also add in Mann (the tax)
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#933 » by raptoratode » Sun Jul 4, 2021 12:05 pm

My dream lineup:

Murray/Flynn
SGA/GTJ
Wiggins/Barnes (#6)
OG/Boucher
Turner/Birch

My proposed "how":
PHI gets Kyle, 18 for Simmons (good haul for Morey given Ben's atrocious image)
OKC gets 4, 14, Simmons for SGA, 6, 16, 18 (giving up SGA is the biggest question here, but I think getting a Giannis-lite centrepiece in Ben in a small market team is worth it for them, plus they get to move up in this loaded draft)
GSW gets Pascal for Wiggins, Wiseman, 7, 14 (already covered in several forums)
DEN gets FVV, 7, 16, 47 for Murray (this is as low as buying low for Murray could probably get after that ACL tear and given that he won't be back until the ASB?)
IND gets Wiseman, 46 for Turner
TOR gets SGA, Murray, Wiggins, Turner, #6 for Kyle, FVV, Pascal, 4, 46, 47

I think it's fair for all teams and players involved. We're easily in the lux tax but it'll be worth it.
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#934 » by wegotthabeet » Sun Jul 4, 2021 12:07 pm

MalagaBulls wrote:Back again, how many 1sts plus PWill would it take to pry FVV from you guys?


0 picks in my opinion and this is the exact guy they should target if they move on from Vanvleet or rebuild.
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#935 » by Zeno » Sun Jul 4, 2021 1:47 pm

I could see Cleveland wanting to do a Siakam for Love+3 trade.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#936 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Sun Jul 4, 2021 4:49 pm

Zeno wrote:I could see Cleveland wanting to do a Siakam for Love+3 trade.

it will be interesting to see how love does in the olympics.
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#937 » by Bruin » Sun Jul 4, 2021 5:00 pm

Doubt Cleveland wants Siakam. They should be targeting someone under 25 if they’re trading the pick
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#938 » by bluerap23 » Sun Jul 4, 2021 5:10 pm

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We walk with

Flynn/Giddey
Trent
OG
Williams/Mobley
Wiseman
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Post#939 » by agkagk » Sun Jul 4, 2021 5:37 pm

bluerap23 wrote:Image

We walk with

Flynn/Giddey
Trent
OG
Williams/Mobley
Wiseman


Aaand we’re easily the worst team the league has seen in a decade.

This team would struggle to score more than 85 points

And our only real building blocks all play the same position and need the same space to grow.


I hate to be critical but this is a special kind of train wreck you concocted lol :lol:
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#940 » by Bruin » Sun Jul 4, 2021 5:50 pm

bluerap23 wrote:Image

We walk with

Flynn/Giddey
Trent
OG
Williams/Mobley
Wiseman

No thanks. Also Houston gets off of Gordon’s contract and goes from 2 to Wiggins, 4, and 7? That’s too much for them considering 2 vs 4 isn’t that significant

Also, do not want Satoransky playing in Toronto after yesterday lol
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