We are, but being in "Win Now mode" we need that 3rd wheel which FVV is perfect for.alpngso wrote:MalagaBulls wrote:Back again, how many 1sts plus PWill would it take to pry FVV from you guys?
Not high on PWill?
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MalagaBulls wrote:We are, but being in "Win Now mode" we need that 3rd wheel which FVV is perfect for.alpngso wrote:MalagaBulls wrote:Back again, how many 1sts plus PWill would it take to pry FVV from you guys?
Not high on PWill?
How many 1sts are you thinking you’d be willing realistically?

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MalagaBulls wrote:Back again, how many 1sts plus PWill would it take to pry FVV from you guys?
Stop underrating your rook lol. He had an amazing year for such a young prospect.
If you guys offered him in a deal for FVV we'd accept instantly

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Clippers - Raptors deal around Lowry:
Kyle Lowry (SnT - 20M/3 yrs)
for
Ivica Zubac + Pat Beverly
Zubac is a starting caliber center, and at 24 years old, he’s a young vet who is primed to peak with our core. Beverly is on an expiring contract, and can be flipped to a contender for a couple of seconds.
Fred / Trent / OG / Siakam / Zubac
Flynn / Suggs / Boucher / Birch
Pat Bev + Bembry as spot vets
Add the MLE (~$9.5M)
Add 2 seconds
Kyle Lowry (SnT - 20M/3 yrs)
for
Ivica Zubac + Pat Beverly
Zubac is a starting caliber center, and at 24 years old, he’s a young vet who is primed to peak with our core. Beverly is on an expiring contract, and can be flipped to a contender for a couple of seconds.
Fred / Trent / OG / Siakam / Zubac
Flynn / Suggs / Boucher / Birch
Pat Bev + Bembry as spot vets
Add the MLE (~$9.5M)
Add 2 seconds
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MessiahUjiri wrote:Clippers - Raptors deal around Lowry:
Kyle Lowry (SnT - 20M/3 yrs)
for
Ivica Zubac + Pat Beverly
Zubac is a starting caliber center, and at 24 years old, he’s a young vet who is primed to peak with our core. Beverly is on an expiring contract, and can be flipped to a contender for a couple of seconds.
Fred / Trent / OG / Siakam / Zubac
Flynn / Suggs / Boucher / Birch
Pat Bev + Bembry as spot vets
Add the MLE (~$9.5M)
Add 2 seconds
there is a clippers tax; they would need to include more.
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douggood wrote:MessiahUjiri wrote:Clippers - Raptors deal around Lowry:
Kyle Lowry (SnT - 20M/3 yrs)
for
Ivica Zubac + Pat Beverly
Zubac is a starting caliber center, and at 24 years old, he’s a young vet who is primed to peak with our core. Beverly is on an expiring contract, and can be flipped to a contender for a couple of seconds.
Fred / Trent / OG / Siakam / Zubac
Flynn / Suggs / Boucher / Birch
Pat Bev + Bembry as spot vets
Add the MLE (~$9.5M)
Add 2 seconds
there is a clippers tax; they would need to include more.
I hate them as much as you do. But transactions are about future assets, and I’ll make a deal with anyone in the league if it helps us win.
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MessiahUjiri wrote:douggood wrote:MessiahUjiri wrote:Clippers - Raptors deal around Lowry:
Kyle Lowry (SnT - 20M/3 yrs)
for
Ivica Zubac + Pat Beverly
Zubac is a starting caliber center, and at 24 years old, he’s a young vet who is primed to peak with our core. Beverly is on an expiring contract, and can be flipped to a contender for a couple of seconds.
Fred / Trent / OG / Siakam / Zubac
Flynn / Suggs / Boucher / Birch
Pat Bev + Bembry as spot vets
Add the MLE (~$9.5M)
Add 2 seconds
there is a clippers tax; they would need to include more.
I hate them as much as you do. But transactions are about future assets, and I’ll make a deal with anyone in the league if it helps us win.
I think Clippers can trade their 2028th FRP right
Alternatively we can work out a deal and tell them on draft night who to draft with their #25 pick. Then that guy gets tossed into this trade.
Out of curiosity, if Clippers had Lowry in the playoffs instead of Zubac and Beverly, do you think they beat the Suns? Lowry would have taken off some load off of PG, and would have contributed in multiple ways.
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AbC? wrote:MalagaBulls wrote:Back again, how many 1sts plus PWill would it take to pry FVV from you guys?
Stop underrating your rook lol. He had an amazing year for such a young prospect.
If you guys offered him in a deal for FVV we'd accept instantly
Definitely making that trade lol

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If Siakam's surgery wasn't a thing I think Boucher probably woulda been traded this offseason. But our foward situation is really thin.
If you can somehow use him to get JT Thor though it would make so much sense
If you can somehow use him to get JT Thor though it would make so much sense

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The best deal I've seen come up here throughout the last couple of pages was
Lowry to the Lakers
Shroder to the bulls
Lauri to the raps
I'm noteven that big on Lauri due to being a defensive liability, but atleast he's a young prospect.
A bench front court of Lauri and Boucher could pass
Lowry to the Lakers
Shroder to the bulls
Lauri to the raps
I'm noteven that big on Lauri due to being a defensive liability, but atleast he's a young prospect.
A bench front court of Lauri and Boucher could pass

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MalagaBulls wrote:We are, but being in "Win Now mode" we need that 3rd wheel which FVV is perfect for.alpngso wrote:MalagaBulls wrote:Back again, how many 1sts plus PWill would it take to pry FVV from you guys?
Not high on PWill?
Deal!
P will and a 2027 unprotected 1st, swap rights in 2028 will be enough
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MessiahUjiri wrote:douggood wrote:MessiahUjiri wrote:Clippers - Raptors deal around Lowry:
Kyle Lowry (SnT - 20M/3 yrs)
for
Ivica Zubac + Pat Beverly
Zubac is a starting caliber center, and at 24 years old, he’s a young vet who is primed to peak with our core. Beverly is on an expiring contract, and can be flipped to a contender for a couple of seconds.
Fred / Trent / OG / Siakam / Zubac
Flynn / Suggs / Boucher / Birch
Pat Bev + Bembry as spot vets
Add the MLE (~$9.5M)
Add 2 seconds
there is a clippers tax; they would need to include more.
I hate them as much as you do. But transactions are about future assets, and I’ll make a deal with anyone in the league if it helps us win.
He's not saying he wouldn't deal with them but just that they'd have to pay more.
As far as the trade goes, no Beverly please. Either replace him with Rondo or shunt him to a third team. Also add in Mann (the tax)
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My dream lineup:
Murray/Flynn
SGA/GTJ
Wiggins/Barnes (#6)
OG/Boucher
Turner/Birch
My proposed "how":
PHI gets Kyle, 18 for Simmons (good haul for Morey given Ben's atrocious image)
OKC gets 4, 14, Simmons for SGA, 6, 16, 18 (giving up SGA is the biggest question here, but I think getting a Giannis-lite centrepiece in Ben in a small market team is worth it for them, plus they get to move up in this loaded draft)
GSW gets Pascal for Wiggins, Wiseman, 7, 14 (already covered in several forums)
DEN gets FVV, 7, 16, 47 for Murray (this is as low as buying low for Murray could probably get after that ACL tear and given that he won't be back until the ASB?)
IND gets Wiseman, 46 for Turner
TOR gets SGA, Murray, Wiggins, Turner, #6 for Kyle, FVV, Pascal, 4, 46, 47
I think it's fair for all teams and players involved. We're easily in the lux tax but it'll be worth it.
Murray/Flynn
SGA/GTJ
Wiggins/Barnes (#6)
OG/Boucher
Turner/Birch
My proposed "how":
PHI gets Kyle, 18 for Simmons (good haul for Morey given Ben's atrocious image)
OKC gets 4, 14, Simmons for SGA, 6, 16, 18 (giving up SGA is the biggest question here, but I think getting a Giannis-lite centrepiece in Ben in a small market team is worth it for them, plus they get to move up in this loaded draft)
GSW gets Pascal for Wiggins, Wiseman, 7, 14 (already covered in several forums)
DEN gets FVV, 7, 16, 47 for Murray (this is as low as buying low for Murray could probably get after that ACL tear and given that he won't be back until the ASB?)
IND gets Wiseman, 46 for Turner
TOR gets SGA, Murray, Wiggins, Turner, #6 for Kyle, FVV, Pascal, 4, 46, 47
I think it's fair for all teams and players involved. We're easily in the lux tax but it'll be worth it.
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MalagaBulls wrote:Back again, how many 1sts plus PWill would it take to pry FVV from you guys?
0 picks in my opinion and this is the exact guy they should target if they move on from Vanvleet or rebuild.
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I could see Cleveland wanting to do a Siakam for Love+3 trade.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?
Please advise….
Dan G.
Please advise….
Dan G.
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Zeno wrote:I could see Cleveland wanting to do a Siakam for Love+3 trade.
it will be interesting to see how love does in the olympics.
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Doubt Cleveland wants Siakam. They should be targeting someone under 25 if they’re trading the pick

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We walk with
Flynn/Giddey
Trent
OG
Williams/Mobley
Wiseman
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bluerap23 wrote:
We walk with
Flynn/Giddey
Trent
OG
Williams/Mobley
Wiseman
Aaand we’re easily the worst team the league has seen in a decade.
This team would struggle to score more than 85 points
And our only real building blocks all play the same position and need the same space to grow.
I hate to be critical but this is a special kind of train wreck you concocted lol
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bluerap23 wrote:
We walk with
Flynn/Giddey
Trent
OG
Williams/Mobley
Wiseman
No thanks. Also Houston gets off of Gordon’s contract and goes from 2 to Wiggins, 4, and 7? That’s too much for them considering 2 vs 4 isn’t that significant
Also, do not want Satoransky playing in Toronto after yesterday lol










