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Post#781 » by Prokorov » Tue Jul 6, 2021 6:36 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:Root for Brook Lopez!!!!

All my interest


id rather we go 0-82 for eternity then root for him
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CalamityX12 wrote:Root for Brook Lopez!!!!

All my interest


Nope. I love Brook, but he's on the wrong team. Suns in 4.
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Post#783 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Jul 7, 2021 2:03 am

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CalamityX12 wrote:Root for Brook Lopez!!!!

All my interest


id rather we go 0-82 for eternity then root for him

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Post#784 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Jul 7, 2021 2:04 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:Root for Brook Lopez!!!!

All my interest


Nope. I love Brook, but he's on the wrong team. Suns in 4.

LOPEZ!

Keep the luv for him!
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Post#785 » by LOUiS-D » Wed Jul 7, 2021 3:06 am

CalamityX12 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:Root for Brook Lopez!!!!

All my interest


Nope. I love Brook, but he's on the wrong team. Suns in 4.

LOPEZ!

Keep the luv for him!

I'd rather see 29 other teams win before the Bucks. Full salt, no chill. f*** every buck until giannis leaves that team.
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Post#786 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 7, 2021 3:10 am

Bucks are fraudulent as ****. Not surprised that a healthy team with all of their stars smacks the **** out of them.
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Post#787 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 7, 2021 3:11 am

CalamityX12 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
CalamityX12 wrote:Root for Brook Lopez!!!!

All my interest


Nope. I love Brook, but he's on the wrong team. Suns in 4.

LOPEZ!

Keep the luv for him!


It has nothing to do with Brook. It's the principle. Giannis is a ****. **** him, **** the Bucks, their whole fanbase, all of them.
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Post#788 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 7, 2021 3:18 am

Also, again, I see that Phoenix has forced Brook off of the floor and Giannis is playing the 5 now.

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Post#789 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 7, 2021 3:22 am

Suns have a legit big in the middle. If you guys are going to sit here and tell me that we need to run 6'8 guys at Center because they can hit threes I can't take you seriously. We need rebounding and defense at the 5.
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Post#790 » by andrewww » Wed Jul 7, 2021 3:53 am

MrDollarBills wrote:Also, again, I see that Phoenix has forced Brook off of the floor and Giannis is playing the 5 now.

I wish the Nets had a coach like Monty Williams. A guy who paid his dues and studied his craft. Instead we have Steve Nash. A product of nepotism and white privilege.

Sean Marks should be ashamed of himself. Do better. Hire someone who has put in the work.


As a team the Suns are built very well. Championship worthy in my books. Only a full strength Nets team should and would be favs over the Suns, aside from possibly a full strength Clippers.

Good coaching in Monty Williams. I know you can trust him to make the right decisions generally with personnel and tactics.

CP and Booker are the other duo in the league with 2 mid range assassins on the same team besides KD and Kyrie for the Nets.

Ayton is such an underrated 2 way modern big with a competent point guard feeding him the rock in the right spots. Great finisher, soft touch. Solid rebounder and can defend in space. A pretty high IQ player.

They have their own big 3.

Add solid 3 and D guys like Bridges, Johnson. Payne is a solid 1. Crowder can play the modern 4 role defending guys like Giannis.
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Post#791 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jul 7, 2021 3:59 am

andrewww wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Also, again, I see that Phoenix has forced Brook off of the floor and Giannis is playing the 5 now.

I wish the Nets had a coach like Monty Williams. A guy who paid his dues and studied his craft. Instead we have Steve Nash. A product of nepotism and white privilege.

Sean Marks should be ashamed of himself. Do better. Hire someone who has put in the work.


As a team the Suns are built very well. Championship worthy in my books. Only a full strength Nets team should and would be favs over the Suns, aside from possibly a full strength Clippers.

Good coaching in Monty Williams. I know you can trust him to make the right decisions generally with personnel and tactics.

CP and Booker are the other duo in the league with 2 mid range assassins on the same team besides KD and Kyrie for the Nets.

Ayton is such an underrated 2 way modern big with a competent point guard feeding him the rock in the right spots. Great finisher, soft touch. Solid rebounder and can defend in space. A pretty high IQ player.

They have their own big 3.

Add solid 3 and D guys like Bridges, Johnson. Payne is a solid 1. Crowder can play the modern 4 role defending guys like Giannis.


Yep. Paul, Booker, Ayton are a legit big 3.

But what killed me is that every time down the floor, Paul and Booker got put on an island versus Lopez. That is simple play calling, force the mismatch.

We weren't even doing that before Kyrie got hurt.
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Post#792 » by andrewww » Wed Jul 7, 2021 4:05 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
andrewww wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Also, again, I see that Phoenix has forced Brook off of the floor and Giannis is playing the 5 now.

I wish the Nets had a coach like Monty Williams. A guy who paid his dues and studied his craft. Instead we have Steve Nash. A product of nepotism and white privilege.

Sean Marks should be ashamed of himself. Do better. Hire someone who has put in the work.


As a team the Suns are built very well. Championship worthy in my books. Only a full strength Nets team should and would be favs over the Suns, aside from possibly a full strength Clippers.

Good coaching in Monty Williams. I know you can trust him to make the right decisions generally with personnel and tactics.

CP and Booker are the other duo in the league with 2 mid range assassins on the same team besides KD and Kyrie for the Nets.

Ayton is such an underrated 2 way modern big with a competent point guard feeding him the rock in the right spots. Great finisher, soft touch. Solid rebounder and can defend in space. A pretty high IQ player.

They have their own big 3.

Add solid 3 and D guys like Bridges, Johnson. Payne is a solid 1. Crowder can play the modern 4 role defending guys like Giannis.


Yep. Paul, Booker, Ayton are a legit big 3.

But what killed me is that every time down the floor, Paul and Booker got put on an island versus Lopez. That is simple play calling, force the mismatch.

We weren't even doing that before Kyrie got hurt.


Chris Paul is a super high IQ player.

Monty Williams was always good at adjusting and recognized liabilities. Saric got minimal minutes in the Laker series once it was obvious he was unplayable. Could the Nets rely on Nash to be astute like that? I think not.
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Post#793 » by HardenGoat » Wed Jul 7, 2021 4:57 am

CP3 is going to dissect the bucks. He is comparable to Harden with setting the table and elevating his team. Bucks don’t have that. With a healthy Harden we will be unstoppable as long as we fix our center situation.
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Post#794 » by Gooner » Wed Jul 7, 2021 10:28 am

HardenGoat wrote:CP3 is going to dissect the bucks. He is comparable to Harden with setting the table and elevating his team. Bucks don’t have that. With a healthy Harden we will be unstoppable as long as we fix our center situation.


He is better than Harden as a playmaker, Harden holds the ball too much and settles for 3's. Bucks have no answer for Paul's mid range at all, and then you have Devin Booker as his partner which makes it unstoppable. Nash didn't prepare the Nets to attack the Bucks defence properly, there was too much settling.
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Post#795 » by Prokorov » Wed Jul 7, 2021 2:29 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Also, again, I see that Phoenix has forced Brook off of the floor and Giannis is playing the 5 now.

I wish the Nets had a coach like Monty Williams. A guy who paid his dues and studied his craft. Instead we have Steve Nash. A product of nepotism and white privilege.

Sean Marks should be ashamed of himself. Do better. Hire someone who has put in the work.


Yup. And I mean... its not some Phil Jackson/Popovich type genius coaching move. For an organization that had Lopez for most of his career, knowing he is a pick-and-roll and switch liability was not some big secret. literally every team but us played him off the floor or forced him to defend and abused it.

When we did just span lopez in pick and roles we absolutely abused it. but we didnt do it until game 5, and after it was super successful we ditched it in game 6.

We also didnt play Deandre Jordan a single minute. which im not going to criticize overall but in a game like game 3 where we didnt even break 85 points bringing in DJ to get some easy pick and roll dunks and putbacks vs brook would have helped a bit and forced him to the bench as well.

With all the good marks has done, to me this still a fireable offense. it doesnt matter how good we are with nash as coach because injuries will happen and if he doesnt have all 3 stars we arent going to win a title
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Post#796 » by Prokorov » Wed Jul 7, 2021 2:33 pm

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MrDollarBills wrote:Also, again, I see that Phoenix has forced Brook off of the floor and Giannis is playing the 5 now.

I wish the Nets had a coach like Monty Williams. A guy who paid his dues and studied his craft. Instead we have Steve Nash. A product of nepotism and white privilege.

Sean Marks should be ashamed of himself. Do better. Hire someone who has put in the work.


As a team the Suns are built very well. Championship worthy in my books. Only a full strength Nets team should and would be favs over the Suns, aside from possibly a full strength Clippers.

Good coaching in Monty Williams. I know you can trust him to make the right decisions generally with personnel and tactics.

CP and Booker are the other duo in the league with 2 mid range assassins on the same team besides KD and Kyrie for the Nets.

Ayton is such an underrated 2 way modern big with a competent point guard feeding him the rock in the right spots. Great finisher, soft touch. Solid rebounder and can defend in space. A pretty high IQ player.

They have their own big 3.

Add solid 3 and D guys like Bridges, Johnson. Payne is a solid 1. Crowder can play the modern 4 role defending guys like Giannis.


This is just recency knee-jerk Bias. they benefitted from playing injured teams...

-Lakers with no AD
-Nuggets with no Jamal Murray
-Clippers with no Kawhi
-avoided facing the #1 seed Jazz

Injuries are part of the game but you are talking about arguably the 2 best 2-way players in the west (Kawhi/AD) and a 1st team all-nba player and elite playoff performer in Murray. Suns are good, but they would not be favored against ANY of those 3 teams if healthy.

A healthy Nets team beats the suns in 5 or less.
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Post#797 » by andrewww » Wed Jul 7, 2021 2:44 pm

Prokorov wrote:
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MrDollarBills wrote:Also, again, I see that Phoenix has forced Brook off of the floor and Giannis is playing the 5 now.

I wish the Nets had a coach like Monty Williams. A guy who paid his dues and studied his craft. Instead we have Steve Nash. A product of nepotism and white privilege.

Sean Marks should be ashamed of himself. Do better. Hire someone who has put in the work.


As a team the Suns are built very well. Championship worthy in my books. Only a full strength Nets team should and would be favs over the Suns, aside from possibly a full strength Clippers.

Good coaching in Monty Williams. I know you can trust him to make the right decisions generally with personnel and tactics.

CP and Booker are the other duo in the league with 2 mid range assassins on the same team besides KD and Kyrie for the Nets.

Ayton is such an underrated 2 way modern big with a competent point guard feeding him the rock in the right spots. Great finisher, soft touch. Solid rebounder and can defend in space. A pretty high IQ player.

They have their own big 3.

Add solid 3 and D guys like Bridges, Johnson. Payne is a solid 1. Crowder can play the modern 4 role defending guys like Giannis.


This is just recency knee-jerk Bias. they benefitted from playing injured teams...

-Lakers with no AD
-Nuggets with no Jamal Murray
-Clippers with no Kawhi
-avoided facing the #1 seed Jazz

Injuries are part of the game but you are talking about arguably the 2 best 2-way players in the west (Kawhi/AD) and a 1st team all-nba player and elite playoff performer in Murray. Suns are good, but they would not be favored against ANY of those 3 teams if healthy.

A healthy Nets team beats the suns in 5 or less.


I disagree for the most part.

Injured AD yes, but CP himself was playing on one shoulder that series. Suns are and were better than the Lakers this season.

Jamal Murray doesnt move the needle enough to win for Denver.

The Clips I’ll buy the injuries argument sans Kawhi and Ibaka.
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Post#798 » by Prokorov » Wed Jul 7, 2021 6:12 pm

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As a team the Suns are built very well. Championship worthy in my books. Only a full strength Nets team should and would be favs over the Suns, aside from possibly a full strength Clippers.

Good coaching in Monty Williams. I know you can trust him to make the right decisions generally with personnel and tactics.

CP and Booker are the other duo in the league with 2 mid range assassins on the same team besides KD and Kyrie for the Nets.

Ayton is such an underrated 2 way modern big with a competent point guard feeding him the rock in the right spots. Great finisher, soft touch. Solid rebounder and can defend in space. A pretty high IQ player.

They have their own big 3.

Add solid 3 and D guys like Bridges, Johnson. Payne is a solid 1. Crowder can play the modern 4 role defending guys like Giannis.


This is just recency knee-jerk Bias. they benefitted from playing injured teams...

-Lakers with no AD
-Nuggets with no Jamal Murray
-Clippers with no Kawhi
-avoided facing the #1 seed Jazz

Injuries are part of the game but you are talking about arguably the 2 best 2-way players in the west (Kawhi/AD) and a 1st team all-nba player and elite playoff performer in Murray. Suns are good, but they would not be favored against ANY of those 3 teams if healthy.

A healthy Nets team beats the suns in 5 or less.


I disagree for the most part.

Injured AD yes, but CP himself was playing on one shoulder that series. Suns are and were better than the Lakers this season.

Jamal Murray doesnt move the needle enough to win for Denver.

The Clips I’ll buy the injuries argument sans Kawhi and Ibaka.


The suns were not better then the lakers this year. the lakers were injured/load managing all year. they werent playing for seeding. with AD, they are better then the suns.

Clippers we both agree were better if kawhi plays. playoff kawhi is a beast.

to say murray doesnt move the needle enough for Denver to me is just... way way off. I mean it was him and not Jokic last year who led them to the WC finals. I mean 27/7/5 on 50/45/90 on high volume for the playoffs.

Down 3-1 to the jazz he dropped 50 points, 42 points, and 50 points to lead them to 3 straight wins.

to say he doesnt move the needle enough to sway a series is absurd.
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Post#799 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jul 9, 2021 3:00 am

Giannis injures another player.
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Post#800 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Jul 9, 2021 3:15 am

I look at Monty Williams and I look at Steve Nash and I wonder why the Nets chose mediocrity as far as coaching goes.
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