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Boogie! wrote:
And we still have such a Mediocre record... Pitching so sux.
AthensBucks wrote:Lowry is done.
Nurse is below average at best.
Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.
Randle McMurphy wrote:s e n s i wrote:read a tweet today that made sense to me. kicking the tires on JD at the deadline. why not?
I'd of course try it, but his contract and the fact that he's been in somewhat of a feud with this management group since they arrived would probably deter us.
AthensBucks wrote:Lowry is done.
Nurse is below average at best.
Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.
The_Hater wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:s e n s i wrote:read a tweet today that made sense to me. kicking the tires on JD at the deadline. why not?
I'd of course try it, but his contract and the fact that he's been in somewhat of a feud with this management group since they arrived would probably deter us.
Plus a lot of negative stuff has come out about JD since he left Toronto. He’s more unpopular with teammates then we realized. I guess he rubs a lot of people the wrong way in many corners.
Plus he’s getting paid $21.8 million both this season and next.
I would be pretty shocked if this happened.
galacticos2 wrote:MLB needs to introduce an Amnesty clause. Bautista would be my first victim.
s e n s i wrote:The_Hater wrote:Randle McMurphy wrote:I'd of course try it, but his contract and the fact that he's been in somewhat of a feud with this management group since they arrived would probably deter us.
Plus a lot of negative stuff has come out about JD since he left Toronto. He’s more unpopular with teammates then we realized. I guess he rubs a lot of people the wrong way in many corners.
Plus he’s getting paid $21.8 million both this season and next.
I would be pretty shocked if this happened.
fair enough. though i think he'll be compensated appropriately this year and maybe next year, hard to feel the same about the 4th year of that deal in his age 38 season.
as for him in the clubhouse, he's popular among teammates when they're all pricks and you're winning (see 2015), but i could also see why you wouldn't want that uber-alpha personality with this group, if that's something you feel really impacts W/L.
question for everyone: who's a non-pitching, move-the-needle, player you'd like to see them make a play for this month?
AthensBucks wrote:Lowry is done.
Nurse is below average at best.
Masai is overrated.
I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.
s e n s i wrote:question for everyone: who's a non-pitching, move-the-needle, player you'd like to see them make a play for this month?
s e n s i wrote:question for everyone: who's a non-pitching, move-the-needle, player you'd like to see them make a play for this month?
July 1, 2021
This Canada Day in Deep Left Field, we have an all-Canadian episode. Mike Wilner talks with Larry Walker, the greatest Canadian position player in MLB history, checks in with John Axford about pitching for Team Canada and working his way back to the big leagues, and convenes a round table of the only Canadians to broadcast Blue Jays play-by-play on the radio with Dan Shulman and Joe Siddall.
polo007 wrote:
TORONTO — We know the Toronto Blue Jays are buyers heading into the July 30 trade deadline.
But what will they have to sell in order to get what they need?
Luckily, armed with a minor-league system that is robust enough to deliver whatever major-league talent GM Ross Atkins wants to go get, the Jays are in a great position.
Thanks to the depth and redundancy in certain areas, the Jays will not need to completely tear the system apart to make an impact trade or two, either.
Taking a look at each type of trade chip, here are a handful of names — you can get more in depth on all of them here in our top 50 Jays prospects list for 2021 — to keep in mind this month as Atkins’ trade targets start to become clear.
Big-league chips
C Alejandro Kirk
LF Lourdes Gurriel Jr.
C Reese McGuire
The two most asked about areas of the Jays’ roster over the past couple of off-seasons have been their deep catching pipeline, as well as outfielders Gurriel Jr. and Teoscar Hernandez.
While Hernandez has settled in to become an all-star, Gurriel has struggled both with the bat and defensively in left field. Under control for three more seasons after this one, LGJ’s still a valuable trade chip, but the Jays would love for him to get hot over the next three weeks.
Ditto for Kirk, who’s hitting well on a Triple-A rehab assignment as he recovers from a hip injury.
The Jays need to sort out their catching situation and Kirk is by far the best bat, but he might also fetch the most in a trade, with Danny Jansen and McGuire, who cleared waivers earlier this year, probably not having much value.
If Atkins is going to subtract from his group of big-league position players, Kirk and Gurriel and are the most likely candidates.
Elite trade chips
3B/SS Jordan Groshans
3B/SS Orelvis Martinez
RHP Sem Robberse
You’ll notice there’s no Austin Martin, Gabriel Moreno or Simeon Woods Richardson here. I don’t think those three top prospects are on the table, so we have to dig down a little further to the next level of elite depth in the system.
Groshans and Martinez are the top trade chips, but they won’t be on the move for anything less than an impact arm with control left. Rentals won’t be able to pry these guys away.
Robberse isn’t an elite trade chip from a national perspective, but the 19-year-old Dutch hurler is impressing at Low-A Dunedin, striking out 11.8 batters per nine with a four-pitch mix that’s led by a whiff-generating curveball.
He’s the type of lower-level pitching prospect you can build a package around.
polo007 wrote:Monday with Mitchell: Breaking down the Blue Jays' trade chips - TSN.caTORONTO — We know the Toronto Blue Jays are buyers heading into the July 30 trade deadline.
But what will they have to sell in order to get what they need?
Luckily, armed with a minor-league system that is robust enough to deliver whatever major-league talent GM Ross Atkins wants to go get, the Jays are in a great position.
Thanks to the depth and redundancy in certain areas, the Jays will not need to completely tear the system apart to make an impact trade or two, either.
Taking a look at each type of trade chip, here are a handful of names — you can get more in depth on all of them here in our top 50 Jays prospects list for 2021 — to keep in mind this month as Atkins’ trade targets start to become clear.
Big-league chips
C Alejandro Kirk
LF Lourdes Gurriel Jr.
C Reese McGuire
The two most asked about areas of the Jays’ roster over the past couple of off-seasons have been their deep catching pipeline, as well as outfielders Gurriel Jr. and Teoscar Hernandez.
While Hernandez has settled in to become an all-star, Gurriel has struggled both with the bat and defensively in left field. Under control for three more seasons after this one, LGJ’s still a valuable trade chip, but the Jays would love for him to get hot over the next three weeks.
Ditto for Kirk, who’s hitting well on a Triple-A rehab assignment as he recovers from a hip injury.
The Jays need to sort out their catching situation and Kirk is by far the best bat, but he might also fetch the most in a trade, with Danny Jansen and McGuire, who cleared waivers earlier this year, probably not having much value.
If Atkins is going to subtract from his group of big-league position players, Kirk and Gurriel and are the most likely candidates.
Elite trade chips
3B/SS Jordan Groshans
3B/SS Orelvis Martinez
RHP Sem Robberse
You’ll notice there’s no Austin Martin, Gabriel Moreno or Simeon Woods Richardson here. I don’t think those three top prospects are on the table, so we have to dig down a little further to the next level of elite depth in the system.
Groshans and Martinez are the top trade chips, but they won’t be on the move for anything less than an impact arm with control left. Rentals won’t be able to pry these guys away.
Robberse isn’t an elite trade chip from a national perspective, but the 19-year-old Dutch hurler is impressing at Low-A Dunedin, striking out 11.8 batters per nine with a four-pitch mix that’s led by a whiff-generating curveball.
He’s the type of lower-level pitching prospect you can build a package around.
Natural11 wrote:I'll be bummed if they trade Captain Kirk. That guy is fun to watch.
It's great that Reese had a good few weeks, but I'm not sold on that continuing, at least not in a capacity that's worthy of a starting role. As for Jansen, well we were ready to play Kirk last year despite no MLB or high A experience just to get a break from him.
I'd rather they trade Jansen, but he needs to get hot and quickly to bring in anything decent. Reese is unlikely to bring much of a return considering he passed through waivers 2 months ago.
Scott Hall wrote:I know pitching is the biggest need and number 1 priority and the offense is fine the way it is but
if the Jays could get Nelson Cruz without giving up to much whether it's as a rental or if he decides
to play another year that would be pretty wild especially to block him from going to another AL
contender. I would have to get MLB the Show to play with our video game offense.
Scott Hall wrote:Scott Hall wrote:I know pitching is the biggest need and number 1 priority and the offense is fine the way it is but
if the Jays could get Nelson Cruz without giving up to much whether it's as a rental or if he decides
to play another year that would be pretty wild especially to block him from going to another AL
contender. I would have to get MLB the Show to play with our video game offense.
