Official Spec Thread: I guess now's the time to blow this dumpster fire up and bask in the glow!

[cedric76]

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You can feel in Hammond's voice regret over not trading whole roster for Doncic or Young, and ending up with Bumba instad

decent interview

[OrlandoNed]

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You can feel in Hammond's voice regret over not trading whole roster for Doncic or Young, and ending up with Bumba instad

Guys like him lack the balls to be aggressive when the opportunity presents itself, but only get aggressive when their jobs are on the line and almost always end up making a suboptimal move at a suboptimal time. There is a difference between being conservative and just being a massive pu$$y.

[rcklsscognition]

I haven't seen anything about it other than a blurb from Josh, I think, but Welham getting three year extensions before the draft annoys me.

[Knightro]

Listening to Josh Robbins on The Beat of Sports with Marc Daniels.

Robbins low key crapping on the Magic's head coaching search for not interviewing Kenny Atkinson or Terry Stotts.

He was very subtly hinting that he believes the Magic opted to hire the coach who would do what the front office wanted above all else over hiring a coach who would potentially be more stubborn.

EDIT: Marc Daniels immediately caught on and they both very openly are now saying that the Magic hired someone who will take orders pretty much. Someone who will do exactly what the front office wants.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Josh Robbins very subtly crapping on the Magic's head coaching search for not interviewing Kenny Atkinson or Terry Stotts.

He was very subtly hinting that he believes the Magic opted to hire the coach who would do what the front office wanted above all else over hiring a coach who would potentially be more stubborn.

EDIT: Marc Daniels immediately caught on and they both very openly are now saying that the Magic hired someone who will take orders pretty much. Someone who will do exactly what the front office wants.

on the athletic or radio?

[Knightro]

on the athletic or radio?

On the radio 96.9 with Daniels.

[JF5]

Listening to Josh Robbins on The Beat of Sports with Marc Daniels.

Robbins low key crapping on the Magic's head coaching search for not interviewing Kenny Atkinson or Terry Stotts.

He was very subtly hinting that he believes the Magic opted to hire the coach who would do what the front office wanted above all else over hiring a coach who would potentially be more stubborn.

EDIT: Marc Daniels immediately caught on and they both very openly are now saying that the Magic hired someone who will take orders pretty much. Someone who will do exactly what the front office wants.

That to me makes sense. You're trying to develop young players and have a coach willing to do the job. If you put a veteran coach who wants to win and is unwilling to let the young guys play and make mistakes then it defeats the purpose of the rebuild at this stage.

There has to be a fine line of accountability and players needing to work hard for their spot. But also not yanking them for making mistakes or screwing up. Especially for this 1-2 year time period of internal development.

[OrlChamps2030]

Listening to Josh Robbins on The Beat of Sports with Marc Daniels.

Robbins low key crapping on the Magic's head coaching search for not interviewing Kenny Atkinson or Terry Stotts.

He was very subtly hinting that he believes the Magic opted to hire the coach who would do what the front office wanted above all else over hiring a coach who would potentially be more stubborn.

EDIT: Marc Daniels immediately caught on and they both very openly are now saying that the Magic hired someone who will take orders pretty much. Someone who will do exactly what the front office wants.

I’m not sure if the FO deserves to be crapped on.. but I mean isn’t that obviously part of the reason they only interviewed first time head coaches?

Guys who are willing to sign up for 2 years of losses, play young guys, and lose with dignity. And then get on the hot seat if they can’t turn it around in year 3.

Atkinson was never going to sign up for that.. Lol

Clifford and Skiles both quit over disagreements with the front office. Clearly this time they went with coaching candidates who were 100% on the same page with the FO and ok with being the coach during a ground up rebuild

[j-ragg]

He was very subtly hinting that he believes the Magic opted to hire the coach who would do what the front office wanted above all else over hiring a coach who would potentially be more stubborn.

EDIT: Marc Daniels immediately caught on and they both very openly are now saying that the Magic hired someone who will take orders pretty much. Someone who will do exactly what the front office wants.

From his first press conference, I got this vibe.

A question was asked like “when do you think you’ll start preparing your coaching staff and who would you like to add?” With the response some generic press speak “well I’m gonna talk to Jeff and John and we’ll bring in coaches who share the vision… etc” blah blah. But the fact he immediately made it seem like it was more WeltHam’s picks than his made me hesitate. Or of course it could’ve just been press conference talk and he was deferring to them out of courtesy.

[thelead]

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You can feel in Hammond's voice regret over not trading whole roster for Doncic or Young, and ending up with Bumba instad

Guys like him lack the balls to be aggressive when the opportunity presents itself, but only get aggressive when their jobs are on the line and almost always end up making a suboptimal move at a suboptimal time. There is a difference between being conservative and just being a massive pu$$y.

With the 5th and 8th pick (plus a ton of other assets), he has the opportunity to possibly get his Trae Young. Nothing in life is guaranteed but I'm betting on Jalen Green over Kuminga and Barnes every day of the week. Let's all be honest, Trae wasn't a GUARANTEE (even though I was high on him) and neither was Doncic but they were worth the gamble. Sometimes you end up with Doncic, other times you end up with Fultz (instead of Tatum). But I'll take that gamble every time. Fultz is one of the weirdest draft picks of all times but drafting the next Stanley Johnson occurs in every draft. TAKE THE GAMBLE.

[tiderulz]

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You can feel in Hammond's voice regret over not trading whole roster for Doncic or Young, and ending up with Bumba instad

Guys like him lack the balls to be aggressive when the opportunity presents itself, but only get aggressive when their jobs are on the line and almost always end up making a suboptimal move at a suboptimal time. There is a difference between being conservative and just being a massive pu$$y.

With the 5th and 8th pick (plus a ton of other assets), he has the opportunity to possibly get his Trae Young. Nothing in life is guaranteed but I'm betting on Jalen Green over Kuminga and Barnes every day of the week. Let's all be honest, Trae wasn't a GUARANTEE (even though I was high on him) and neither was Doncic but they were worth the gamble. Sometimes you end up with Doncic, other times you end up with Fultz (instead of Tatum). But I'll take that gamble every time. Fultz is one of the weirdest draft picks of all times but drafting the next Stanley Johnson occurs in every draft. TAKE THE GAMBLE.

the balancing act is not overpaying. can we do 5th + denver + Chicago and keep 8th for the next player? I would do everything possible to keep #8 and use those other picks.

[thelead]

Guys like him lack the balls to be aggressive when the opportunity presents itself, but only get aggressive when their jobs are on the line and almost always end up making a suboptimal move at a suboptimal time. There is a difference between being conservative and just being a massive pu$$y.

With the 5th and 8th pick (plus a ton of other assets), he has the opportunity to possibly get his Trae Young. Nothing in life is guaranteed but I'm betting on Jalen Green over Kuminga and Barnes every day of the week. Let's all be honest, Trae wasn't a GUARANTEE (even though I was high on him) and neither was Doncic but they were worth the gamble. Sometimes you end up with Doncic, other times you end up with Fultz (instead of Tatum). But I'll take that gamble every time. Fultz is one of the weirdest draft picks of all times but drafting the next Stanley Johnson occurs in every draft. TAKE THE GAMBLE.

the balancing act is not overpaying. can we do 5th + denver + Chicago and keep 8th for the next player? I would do everything possible to keep #8 and use those other picks.

I would trade 5+8+Chicago+Denver every day of the week if I'm guaranteed to land Green.

Let me ask it this way: would you trade 5+8+Chicago+Denver for Doncic? Especially knowing that you'll have your own lotto pick next year to go along with RJ, Cole, JI, Fultz, WCJ, Chuma, Bamba, and a ton of cap space?

If we miss, so be it but we took the shot.

[zaymon]

With the 5th and 8th pick (plus a ton of other assets), he has the opportunity to possibly get his Trae Young. Nothing in life is guaranteed but I'm betting on Jalen Green over Kuminga and Barnes every day of the week. Let's all be honest, Trae wasn't a GUARANTEE (even though I was high on him) and neither was Doncic but they were worth the gamble. Sometimes you end up with Doncic, other times you end up with Fultz (instead of Tatum). But I'll take that gamble every time. Fultz is one of the weirdest draft picks of all times but drafting the next Stanley Johnson occurs in every draft. TAKE THE GAMBLE.

the balancing act is not overpaying. can we do 5th + denver + Chicago and keep 8th for the next player? I would do everything possible to keep #8 and use those other picks.

I would trade 5+8+Chicago+Denver every day of the week if I'm guaranteed to land Green.

Let me ask it this way: would you trade 5+8+Chicago+Denver for Doncic? Especially knowing that you'll have your own lotto pick next year to go along with RJ, Cole, JI, Fultz, WCJ, Chuma, Bamba, and a ton of cap space?

If we miss, so be it but we took the shot.

There is no Doncic in this draft. Green is nothing like Doncic. Maybe Lavine if he works hard. Doncic was traded for 5 + 10. You want to trade significantly more assets for significantly lesser player ?

[MasterGMer]

Houston is aggressive in trading for NO.1 pick.

What would be the price for Magic to trade for NO.1 pick?

NO.5 + 8 + Fultz + Bamba + Denver's 1st rounder? That is 3 FRPs plus a former NO.1 pick and top 10 pick in Bamba

Will that get it done?

[thelead]

the balancing act is not overpaying. can we do 5th + denver + Chicago and keep 8th for the next player? I would do everything possible to keep #8 and use those other picks.

I would trade 5+8+Chicago+Denver every day of the week if I'm guaranteed to land Green.

Let me ask it this way: would you trade 5+8+Chicago+Denver for Doncic? Especially knowing that you'll have your own lotto pick next year to go along with RJ, Cole, JI, Fultz, WCJ, Chuma, Bamba, and a ton of cap space?

If we miss, so be it but we took the shot.

There is no Doncic in this draft. Green is nothing like Doncic. Maybe Lavine if he works hard. Doncic was traded for 5 + 10. You want to trade significantly more assets for significantly lesser player ?

5 that year was way more valuable than our 5th pick this year. There is no denying that Trae was a much more intriguing prospect than Kuminga or Barnes. So, 5 and 8 is not equal to 5 and 10 in Doncic's draft. As far as the Den an Chi picks, I wouldn't want to include them but would if I had to. They're protected picks that may or may not deliver much value.

[zaymon]

I would trade 5+8+Chicago+Denver every day of the week if I'm guaranteed to land Green.

Let me ask it this way: would you trade 5+8+Chicago+Denver for Doncic? Especially knowing that you'll have your own lotto pick next year to go along with RJ, Cole, JI, Fultz, WCJ, Chuma, Bamba, and a ton of cap space?

If we miss, so be it but we took the shot.

There is no Doncic in this draft. Green is nothing like Doncic. Maybe Lavine if he works hard. Doncic was traded for 5 + 10. You want to trade significantly more assets for significantly lesser player ?

5 that year was way more valuable than our 5th pick this year. There is no denying that Trae was a much more intriguing prospect than Kuminga or Barnes. So, 5 and 8 is not equal to 5 and 10 in Doncic's draft. As far as the Den an Chi picks, I wouldn't want to include them but would if I had to. They're protected picks that may or may not deliver much value.

Well in the end it depends how much you like Green. I dont like him that much. Would prefer someone who is better passer. Seems like our new coach also likes passers .

[thelead]

There is no Doncic in this draft. Green is nothing like Doncic. Maybe Lavine if he works hard. Doncic was traded for 5 + 10. You want to trade significantly more assets for significantly lesser player ?

5 that year was way more valuable than our 5th pick this year. There is no denying that Trae was a much more intriguing prospect than Kuminga or Barnes. So, 5 and 8 is not equal to 5 and 10 in Doncic's draft. As far as the Den an Chi picks, I wouldn't want to include them but would if I had to. They're protected picks that may or may not deliver much value.

Well in the end it depends how much you like Green. I dont like him that much. Would prefer someone who is better passer. Seems like our new coach also likes passers .

I hear you... the players available are the players available though. I value Green much higher than Kuminga and Barnes (especially Barnes)

[tiderulz]

With the 5th and 8th pick (plus a ton of other assets), he has the opportunity to possibly get his Trae Young. Nothing in life is guaranteed but I'm betting on Jalen Green over Kuminga and Barnes every day of the week. Let's all be honest, Trae wasn't a GUARANTEE (even though I was high on him) and neither was Doncic but they were worth the gamble. Sometimes you end up with Doncic, other times you end up with Fultz (instead of Tatum). But I'll take that gamble every time. Fultz is one of the weirdest draft picks of all times but drafting the next Stanley Johnson occurs in every draft. TAKE THE GAMBLE.

the balancing act is not overpaying. can we do 5th + denver + Chicago and keep 8th for the next player? I would do everything possible to keep #8 and use those other picks.

I would trade 5+8+Chicago+Denver every day of the week if I'm guaranteed to land Green.

Let me ask it this way: would you trade 5+8+Chicago+Denver for Doncic? Especially knowing that you'll have your own lotto pick next year to go along with RJ, Cole, JI, Fultz, WCJ, Chuma, Bamba, and a ton of cap space?

If we miss, so be it but we took the shot.

i guess i dont view Green as an absolute 100% cant miss, elevates every other player on the team prospect. Would i do it for Doncic? absolutely. Green isnt Doncic.

[tiderulz]

5 that year was way more valuable than our 5th pick this year. There is no denying that Trae was a much more intriguing prospect than Kuminga or Barnes. So, 5 and 8 is not equal to 5 and 10 in Doncic's draft. As far as the Den an Chi picks, I wouldn't want to include them but would if I had to. They're protected picks that may or may not deliver much value.

Well in the end it depends how much you like Green. I dont like him that much. Would prefer someone who is better passer. Seems like our new coach also likes passers .

I hear you... the players available are the players available though. I value Green much higher than Kuminga and Barnes (especially Barnes)

i view Green higher than Barnes and Kuminga. I dont view Green high enough to trade the farm for him. I dont really know how big the different there is between Green and Bouknight

[thelead]

the balancing act is not overpaying. can we do 5th + denver + Chicago and keep 8th for the next player? I would do everything possible to keep #8 and use those other picks.

I would trade 5+8+Chicago+Denver every day of the week if I'm guaranteed to land Green.

Let me ask it this way: would you trade 5+8+Chicago+Denver for Doncic? Especially knowing that you'll have your own lotto pick next year to go along with RJ, Cole, JI, Fultz, WCJ, Chuma, Bamba, and a ton of cap space?

If we miss, so be it but we took the shot.

i guess i dont view Green as an absolute 100% cant miss, elevates every other player on the team prospect. Would i do it for Doncic? absolutely. Green isnt Doncic.

Green isn't Doncic but your opinion regarding Doncic is heavily influenced by what he became. He wasn't an absolute 100% cant miss prospect. No one is. Not even LeBron. Now, I do think Doncic was a better prospect than Green but again, who are you banking on in THIS draft? I'm not talking about giving away any of our own lotto picks moving forward.