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Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1141 » by Knox » Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:33 pm

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GONYK wrote:It's clear that the Cavs leaked the offer to invite other teams to bid.

It's basically an open call to beat Knox+Obi+1st

If no other team steps up, we'll get him.


Bingo. The reported offer is the current high bid.

As Begley said, a lot can change.


Right Miami nor the Knicks are going to cave to the Cavs demands. cavs have the propaganda machine in full force trying to force a Barrett deal. They are fricking high if they are expecting Hero or Barrett. You already spread the word. You lowered your own players value. It’s clear you want to move Collins. Now it’s the I am not so sure the kid is a star mess. They already played themselves .. trade him to the Knicks
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1142 » by Jimmit79 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:10 pm

JXL wrote:To all the Knicks fans who hate upgrades:

Does Lonzo make us a better team? No.
Does Kendrick Nunn make us a better team? No.
Does Devonte Graham make us a better team? No.

If you have a chance to get a 24 pt/gm scoring guard on good efficient numbers (51/37/81) by only trading bench players and 1 of our mid 1sts, you do it and don't look back. The same people who don't want a 22 year old improving player to succeed under Thibs are the same people who were questioning RJ Barrett's upside. Pitiful. Y'all should stop hugging mediocre players, and take the upgrades. EVERY TIME.
Seriously since the day we had chance to trade for Curry and Westbrook in draft this fanbase has been stuck on holding there nickle pennies and dimes and then overate there own players like RJ the next Kobe or IQ the next Dame ridiculous.

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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1143 » by Monk1718 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:13 pm

Jimmit79 wrote:
JXL wrote:To all the Knicks fans who hate upgrades:

Does Lonzo make us a better team? No.
Does Kendrick Nunn make us a better team? No.
Does Devonte Graham make us a better team? No.

If you have a chance to get a 24 pt/gm scoring guard on good efficient numbers (51/37/81) by only trading bench players and 1 of our mid 1sts, you do it and don't look back. The same people who don't want a 22 year old improving player to succeed under Thibs are the same people who were questioning RJ Barrett's upside. Pitiful. Y'all should stop hugging mediocre players, and take the upgrades. EVERY TIME.
Seriously since the day we had chance to trade for Curry and Westbrook in draft this fanbase has been stuck on holding there nickle pennies and dimes and then overate there own players like RJ the next Kobe or IQ the next Dame ridiculous.

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Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1144 » by Trademarkk » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:30 pm

Cleveland thinking they can force a higher offer from NY:

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Throw in Ognjen Jaramez if they want a better deal.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1145 » by Clyde Frazier » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:35 pm

I wasn't in on him until I saw the proposed deal. Obi being stuck behind randle makes this feel like a gamble worth taking. Not gonna pretend like i've watched sexton much, but he seems like a good fit with randle and RJ as this team desperately needs more shot creation/playmaking. I like that he's pretty efficient as a 3 level scorer and his 3PT shooting isn't just carrying him.

But yeah, i'd have to watch more of him to really form a full opinion. Just seems like a lot of the negative talk is perceived generalizations as opposed to some real scouting on the kid. We'll see what happens.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1146 » by dakomish23 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:37 pm

GONYK wrote:It's clear that the Cavs leaked the offer to invite other teams to bid.

It's basically an open call to beat Knox+Obi+1st

If no other team steps up, we'll get him.


I'll never get over this blown opportunity in the 2017-18 season / 2018 draft. Knox is pretty much this generation's Jordan Hill pick.

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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1147 » by snadler » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:53 pm

I don’t want sexton at all, I certainly don’t want to give up any assets and I sure as h.ell don’t want to do all of that just to extend him. I know the knicks have been desperate to upgrade the point guard position..but sexton isn’t the answer, need a point guard that will make his teammates better which he hasn’t shown the ability to do, able to defend, which he hasn’t been able to do. I’d much rather sign Lowry on a short term deal to play the CP 3 role as a leader, shooter, defender
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1148 » by JXL » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:24 pm

snadler wrote:I don’t want sexton at all, I certainly don’t want to give up any assets and I sure as h.ell don’t want to do all of that just to extend him. I know the knicks have been desperate to upgrade the point guard position..but sexton isn’t the answer, need a point guard that will make his teammates better which he hasn’t shown the ability to do, able to defend, which he hasn’t been able to do. I’d much rather sign Lowry on a short term deal to play the CP 3 role as a leader, shooter, defender


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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1149 » by DaGawd » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:27 pm

snadler wrote:I don’t want sexton at all, I certainly don’t want to give up any assets and I sure as h.ell don’t want to do all of that just to extend him. I know the knicks have been desperate to upgrade the point guard position..but sexton isn’t the answer, need a point guard that will make his teammates better which he hasn’t shown the ability to do, able to defend, which he hasn’t been able to do. I’d much rather sign Lowry on a short term deal to play the CP 3 role as a leader, shooter, defender

Sexton will make his teammates better just by always being a consistent threat in the floor. Defenses will have to stay honest and if he’s hot and they double he has weapons like RJ and Randle to help
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Post#1150 » by Monk1718 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:46 pm

If the cost isn’t too bad just do it. Should be willing to take a gamble on a young pg and if it doesn’t work out then at least we didn’t give up core pieces.
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Post#1151 » by JXL » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:48 pm

Monk1718 wrote:If the cost isn’t too bad just do it. Should be willing to take a gamble on a young pg and if it doesn’t work out then at least we didn’t give up core pieces.


If by core, I suppose you mean RJ, Randle, Robinson, Quickley and Toppin right?
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1152 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:49 pm

JXL wrote:
Monk1718 wrote:If the cost isn’t too bad just do it. Should be willing to take a gamble on a young pg and if it doesn’t work out then at least we didn’t give up core pieces.


If by core, I suppose you mean RJ, Randle, Robinson, Quickley and Toppin right?


Lance Toppin isn't a core piece
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Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1153 » by Jimmit79 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:50 pm

This is not 2003 where you need Kidd Nash Calderon Ford CP3 type PGs. PGs job is to break down defense so guys like Gallo and Collins don't get called elite defenders for shutting down Randle.

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Post#1154 » by Juggynaut » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:50 pm

Colin Sexton + Thibs is a match made in heaven. I can see y Knicks are heavily interested.
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Post#1155 » by Jimmit79 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:51 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
JXL wrote:
Monk1718 wrote:If the cost isn’t too bad just do it. Should be willing to take a gamble on a young pg and if it doesn’t work out then at least we didn’t give up core pieces.


If by core, I suppose you mean RJ, Randle, Robinson, Quickley and Toppin right?


Lance Toppin isn't a core piece
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Post#1156 » by JXL » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:51 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
JXL wrote:
Monk1718 wrote:If the cost isn’t too bad just do it. Should be willing to take a gamble on a young pg and if it doesn’t work out then at least we didn’t give up core pieces.


If by core, I suppose you mean RJ, Randle, Robinson, Quickley and Toppin right?


Lance Toppin isn't a core piece


Leon Rose would likely disagree...

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Post#1157 » by Monk1718 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:52 pm

JXL wrote:
Monk1718 wrote:If the cost isn’t too bad just do it. Should be willing to take a gamble on a young pg and if it doesn’t work out then at least we didn’t give up core pieces.


If by core, I suppose you mean RJ, Randle, Robinson, Quickley and Toppin right?

Yes excluding toppin.
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Post#1158 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:02 pm

JXL wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
JXL wrote:
If by core, I suppose you mean RJ, Randle, Robinson, Quickley and Toppin right?


Lance Toppin isn't a core piece


Leon Rose would likely disagree...

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Post#1159 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:14 pm

Looks like Cavs fans are holding out hope for RJ
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Post#1160 » by Knox » Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:15 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:Looks like Cavs fans are holding out hope for RJ


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