Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

[nykinoz]

I’m still traumatized from 2014 Raymond felton

I'm still traumatized by 2000s Chris Duhon

I'm still traumatized by Howard Eisley, and him ruining Antonio McDyess's knee.

[prophet_of_rage]

I’m still traumatized from 2014 Raymond felton

I'm still traumatized by 2000s Chris Duhon

I'm still traumatized by Howard Eisley, and him ruining Antonio McDyess's knee.

Eisley might have been the worst.

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[KnixtapeH20]

It actually isn't. We have had way worse point guards. Toure Murray. Frank Williams. Scott Brooks. Brooks Thompson. Shane Larkin.

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I'd take Toure' Murray over Elfrid bc he actually plays defense. Yes its another player we hyped up but he was also a product of the NYK environment. Larkin could actually shoot he was just 4 foot

None of those players u mentioned were shoved down our throats to play 40 minutes on a contending team.

Frank was awesome. Wish we kept him and didn't get Crawful.

Lmao Crawford? One of the best Knicks ever

[malik959]

I’m still traumatized from 2014 Raymond felton

I'm still traumatized by 2000s Chris Duhon

Who is the award winning worst Knick point guard since 1990? Criteria is ineptitude, length of service and minutes per game.

Calderon gave m worst defense nightmares.

[malik959]

https://www.insider.com/knicks-point-guards-2010-where-are-they-now-2020-12#the-2017-18-season-was-jacks-last-in-the-nba-though-he-has-played-in-the-g-league-in-hopes-of-making-his-way-back-to-the-league-36

Oh the horror!

https://www.passionweiss.com/2018/09/25/a-definitive-ranking-of-22-years-of-new-york-knicks-point-guards/

[ny-n-md]

Like Melo didn’t want to ruin his payday when he forced a trade and got the Knicks to give up a shytton of assets? Or how “social justice warrior” Melo somehow felt comfortable calling out the only Asian American player in the NBA for a ridiculous contract? Of course he didn’t do it to anyone else, of course. Or how the Knicks ended up trading for Felton to appease him?

Or you feel it’s okay for a minimum player who was about to cut from the league, sleeping on a friend’s coach, to risk his career for a jealous 100 million+ player who didn’t like him and went out of his way to alienate and remove him from the team anyway? The one who got ridden by Mike D’Antoni like Secretariat to help the Knicks get many crucial wins when they were screwed? Especially in a league where Isaiah Thomas gets traded by the Celtics after what he did for them?

Yah, eff Melo. And yah, I can’t ever prove that what he did was 100% racist but the Asian American side of me has his suspicions.

Yeah this guy is definitely racist. FOH


That contract was definitely ridiculous. And he was right. What is Lin doing in the NBA right now?

You seem big mad that your boy Lin is a scrub and out of the NBA. Go root for him on whatever over seas team he’s on. Crying over Lin is like crying over Cole Aldrich. And mike D’anphony? Lmfao. Trash ass coach. That’s why he’s not a head coach anymore. Just like how ya mans Lin can’t get no contract by anyone. Meanwhile Melo breaking records till this day and just became a top 10 scorer of all time. I’m enjoying the tears!

Lin is out of the league, in part, because of racism. That's not really even controversial. Melo was part of that when he was here. Melo today may have grown from that, it was a decade ago or 25% of his lifetime ago. But no question if Lin was of a different background he'd have been a Knick longer.

I’m not sure how you can say it’s because of racism he’s not in the league. There are several international players in the league. Maybe it’s because he’s not as good as he started off being? He can’t stay healthy? He’s high profile to an extant and not worth the drama?

[spree2kawhi]

What's that MPJ talk? For Randle? They could definitely use him, but they'd need to throw in more imo... I'd be interested.

Sexton, Frank/Quickley, RJ, MPJ, Mitch

Nice.

[prophet_of_rage]

What's that MPJ talk? For Randle? They could definitely use him, but they'd need to throw in more imo... I'd be interested.

Sexton, Frank/Quickley, RJ, MPJ, Mitch

Nice.

Yuck.

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[Nazrmohamed]

https://www.insider.com/knicks-point-guards-2010-where-are-they-now-2020-12#the-2017-18-season-was-jacks-last-in-the-nba-though-he-has-played-in-the-g-league-in-hopes-of-making-his-way-back-to-the-league-36

Oh the horror!

https://www.passionweiss.com/2018/09/25/a-definitive-ranking-of-22-years-of-new-york-knicks-point-guards/

I'm scared to look. I'll still probably do it. Just let me have my breakfast first. Can't face that list on am empty stomach.

[Nazrmohamed]

Yeah this guy is definitely racist. FOH


That contract was definitely ridiculous. And he was right. What is Lin doing in the NBA right now?

You seem big mad that your boy Lin is a scrub and out of the NBA. Go root for him on whatever over seas team he’s on. Crying over Lin is like crying over Cole Aldrich. And mike D’anphony? Lmfao. Trash ass coach. That’s why he’s not a head coach anymore. Just like how ya mans Lin can’t get no contract by anyone. Meanwhile Melo breaking records till this day and just became a top 10 scorer of all time. I’m enjoying the tears!

Lin is out of the league, in part, because of racism. That's not really even controversial. Melo was part of that when he was here. Melo today may have grown from that, it was a decade ago or 25% of his lifetime ago. But no question if Lin was of a different background he'd have been a Knick longer.

I’m not sure how you can say it’s because of racism he’s not in the league. There are several international players in the league. Maybe it’s because he’s not as good as he started off being? He can’t stay healthy? He’s high profile to an extant and not worth the drama?

Lin has to be the worst tear jerker I've ever seen. He's spent a long time cultivating this image and narrative that he's just the good little kid sleeping on Landry Fields couch. And if you don't want him on your team it's because you don't like Asians. Gimme a break. He lucked out because he joined a team who's coach was a pg centric coach who wanted to stick it to the star player the coach didn't want. Both in turn were dismissed and then the Knicks not only finished that current season with an 18&6 record without the both of them but the next season had the second beat record in the East. Good riddance.

[ny-n-md]

Lin is out of the league, in part, because of racism. That's not really even controversial. Melo was part of that when he was here. Melo today may have grown from that, it was a decade ago or 25% of his lifetime ago. But no question if Lin was of a different background he'd have been a Knick longer.

I’m not sure how you can say it’s because of racism he’s not in the league. There are several international players in the league. Maybe it’s because he’s not as good as he started off being? He can’t stay healthy? He’s high profile to an extant and not worth the drama?

Lin has to be the worst tear jerker I've ever seen. He's spent a long time cultivating this image and narrative that he's just the good little kid sleeping on Landry Fields couch. And if you don't want him on your team it's because you don't like Asians. Gimme a break. He lucked out because he joined a team who's coach was a pg centric coach who wanted to stick it to the star player the coach didn't want. Both in turn were dismissed and then the Knicks not only finished that current season with an 18&6 record without the both of them but the next season had the second beat record in the East. Good riddance.

The worst part about the Lin experience was his stans. They made every message board unbearable! Lin could do no wrong. Melo is the problem. It became so divisive and toxic. I don’t miss it at all.

[thebuzzardman]

I’m not sure how you can say it’s because of racism he’s not in the league. There are several international players in the league. Maybe it’s because he’s not as good as he started off being? He can’t stay healthy? He’s high profile to an extant and not worth the drama?

Lin has to be the worst tear jerker I've ever seen. He's spent a long time cultivating this image and narrative that he's just the good little kid sleeping on Landry Fields couch. And if you don't want him on your team it's because you don't like Asians. Gimme a break. He lucked out because he joined a team who's coach was a pg centric coach who wanted to stick it to the star player the coach didn't want. Both in turn were dismissed and then the Knicks not only finished that current season with an 18&6 record without the both of them but the next season had the second beat record in the East. Good riddance.

The worst part about the Lin experience was his stans. They made every message board unbearable! Lin could do no wrong. Melo is the problem. It became so divisive and toxic. I don’t miss it at all.

Knicks should have built around Lin instead of Melo

[thebuzzardman]

Not a Sexton defense.

But this FO has been mostly willing to give Thibs the kind of players he likes.
Luckily, it's within reason and we heard of an instance of pushback (https://nypost.com/2021/03/09/how-leon-rose-rebuilt-the-knicks-an-inside-look/)

But, between Elf (Ugh) and Rose (Yay!) we can see what kind of PG Thibs has preference for.

Gets to the rim
Can organize the offense - to an extent. Floor maestro not necessary.
Looks to score
Some height
Tries on defense

SGA would seem to be the player that best fits that description. He's also not that available.
Sexton checks some boxes.

Anyway, we should all understand Thibs is going to push for another PG with those attributes because Rose can't really average more than 20 mpg, on the whole.

After that, it's about the various voices in the Knicks FO, where probably Ball has advocates, Sexton, Conley and Lowry. Maybe even CP3, and possibly Lillard, though I would think it would take the collective abilities of the FO braintrust to figure how to even make that happen, and then make a useful team happen after - not very likely, but that's my opinion.

[Adelheid]

Not a Sexton defense.

But this FO has been mostly willing to give Thibs the kind of players he likes.
Luckily, it's within reason and we heard of an instance of pushback (https://nypost.com/2021/03/09/how-leon-rose-rebuilt-the-knicks-an-inside-look/)

But, between Elf (Ugh) and Rose (Yay!) we can see what kind of PG Thibs has preference for.

Gets to the rim
Can organize the offense - to an extent. Floor maestro not necessary.
Looks to score
Some height
Tries on defense

SGA would seem to be the player that best fits that description. He's also not that available.
Sexton checks some boxes.

Anyway, we should all understand Thibs is going to push for another PG with those attributes because Rose can't really average more than 20 mpg, on the whole.

After that, it's about the various voices in the Knicks FO, where probably Ball has advocates, Sexton, Conley and Lowry. Maybe even CP3, and possibly Lillard, though I would think it would take the collective abilities of the FO braintrust to figure how to even make that happen, and then make a useful team happen after - not very likely, but that's my opinion.

I would also suggest Dejounte Murray (spurs) but afaik the price to acquire is largely unknown to the sporting public.

[spree2kawhi]

Not a Sexton defense.

But this FO has been mostly willing to give Thibs the kind of players he likes.
Luckily, it's within reason and we heard of an instance of pushback (https://nypost.com/2021/03/09/how-leon-rose-rebuilt-the-knicks-an-inside-look/)

But, between Elf (Ugh) and Rose (Yay!) we can see what kind of PG Thibs has preference for.

Gets to the rim
Can organize the offense - to an extent. Floor maestro not necessary.
Looks to score
Some height
Tries on defense

SGA would seem to be the player that best fits that description. He's also not that available.
Sexton checks some boxes.

Anyway, we should all understand Thibs is going to push for another PG with those attributes because Rose can't really average more than 20 mpg, on the whole.

After that, it's about the various voices in the Knicks FO, where probably Ball has advocates, Sexton, Conley and Lowry. Maybe even CP3, and possibly Lillard, though I would think it would take the collective abilities of the FO braintrust to figure how to even make that happen, and then make a useful team happen after - not very likely, but that's my opinion.

I would also suggest Dejounte Murray (spurs) but afaik the price to acquire is largely unknown to the sporting public.

I was a fan of Murray, but he hasn't been able to provide any scoring. Between him, RJ and Mitch that wouldn't be enough shot creation imo. He's a better choice than Lonzo though.

[KnixinSix]

Not a Sexton defense.

But this FO has been mostly willing to give Thibs the kind of players he likes.
Luckily, it's within reason and we heard of an instance of pushback (https://nypost.com/2021/03/09/how-leon-rose-rebuilt-the-knicks-an-inside-look/)

But, between Elf (Ugh) and Rose (Yay!) we can see what kind of PG Thibs has preference for.

Gets to the rim
Can organize the offense - to an extent. Floor maestro not necessary.
Looks to score
Some height
Tries on defense

SGA would seem to be the player that best fits that description. He's also not that available.
Sexton checks some boxes.

Anyway, we should all understand Thibs is going to push for another PG with those attributes because Rose can't really average more than 20 mpg, on the whole.

After that, it's about the various voices in the Knicks FO, where probably Ball has advocates, Sexton, Conley and Lowry. Maybe even CP3, and possibly Lillard, though I would think it would take the collective abilities of the FO braintrust to figure how to even make that happen, and then make a useful team happen after - not very likely, but that's my opinion.

SGA is an incredible fit for what Thibs looks for. Lonzo is missing the shooting part but is a few rungs better than Payton in that department and has all the other ingredients.

[thebuzzardman]

Not a Sexton defense.

But this FO has been mostly willing to give Thibs the kind of players he likes.
Luckily, it's within reason and we heard of an instance of pushback (https://nypost.com/2021/03/09/how-leon-rose-rebuilt-the-knicks-an-inside-look/)

But, between Elf (Ugh) and Rose (Yay!) we can see what kind of PG Thibs has preference for.

Gets to the rim
Can organize the offense - to an extent. Floor maestro not necessary.
Looks to score
Some height
Tries on defense

SGA would seem to be the player that best fits that description. He's also not that available.
Sexton checks some boxes.

Anyway, we should all understand Thibs is going to push for another PG with those attributes because Rose can't really average more than 20 mpg, on the whole.

After that, it's about the various voices in the Knicks FO, where probably Ball has advocates, Sexton, Conley and Lowry. Maybe even CP3, and possibly Lillard, though I would think it would take the collective abilities of the FO braintrust to figure how to even make that happen, and then make a useful team happen after - not very likely, but that's my opinion.

SGA is an incredible fit for what Thibs looks for. Lonzo is missing the shooting part but is a few rungs better than Payton in that department and has all the other ingredients.

I'd trade both 21 picks and the Mavs 23 pick for SGA, but OKC already has 433 picks in the next 6 years and doesn't need them

[ny-n-md]

Lin has to be the worst tear jerker I've ever seen. He's spent a long time cultivating this image and narrative that he's just the good little kid sleeping on Landry Fields couch. And if you don't want him on your team it's because you don't like Asians. Gimme a break. He lucked out because he joined a team who's coach was a pg centric coach who wanted to stick it to the star player the coach didn't want. Both in turn were dismissed and then the Knicks not only finished that current season with an 18&6 record without the both of them but the next season had the second beat record in the East. Good riddance.

The worst part about the Lin experience was his stans. They made every message board unbearable! Lin could do no wrong. Melo is the problem. It became so divisive and toxic. I don’t miss it at all.

Knicks should have built around Lin instead of Melo

D’antoni’s teams always had inflated stats for his PG’s. How would that have worked out after we moved on from him? Lin stayed hurt and wasn’t nearly as productive as he was in that system apart from it. I’m good. Melo was the more proven player and it’s not close. Lin couldn’t even go left.

And for the record, I don’t really want to relive this debate.

[thebuzzardman]

The worst part about the Lin experience was his stans. They made every message board unbearable! Lin could do no wrong. Melo is the problem. It became so divisive and toxic. I don’t miss it at all.

Knicks should have built around Lin instead of Melo

D’antoni’s teams always had inflated stats for his PG’s. How would that have worked out after we moved on from him? Lin stayed hurt and wasn’t nearly as productive as he was in that system apart from it. I’m good. Melo was the more proven player and it’s not close. Lin couldn’t even go left.

And for the record, I don’t really want to relive this debate.

Surely someone wants to.

[prophet_of_rage]

Lin was great until he was scouted.

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