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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#801 » by knickstape4ever » Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:13 pm

nykinoz wrote:I'm pushing all my cash in for Lonzo, keep every asset, but spend the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


yep. and theoretically, we'd be buying his prime years
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#802 » by Polk377 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:23 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:
nykinoz wrote:I'm pushing all my cash in for Lonzo, keep every asset, but spend the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


yep. and theoretically, we'd be buying his prime years


If we can work the draft to our advantage and fill the lineup holes by replacing Bullock (Murphy), Noel (Jackson) and Burks (Mann). We then have room to sign a couple of upgrade pieces like Ball and Duncan Robinson to improve the starting lineup and bring back Rose and Taj as the Thibs guys to lead them.

PG: Ball/Rose/Vildoza
SG: Barrett/IQ/Mann/Pinson
SF: Robinson/Murphy/Knox
PF: Randle/Taj
C: Robinson/Jackson/Pelle
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#803 » by Richard4444 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:46 pm

Polk377 wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
nykinoz wrote:I'm pushing all my cash in for Lonzo, keep every asset, but spend the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


yep. and theoretically, we'd be buying his prime years


If we can work the draft to our advantage and fill the lineup holes by replacing Bullock (Murphy), Noel (Jackson) and Burks (Mann). We then have room to sign a couple of upgrade pieces like Ball and Duncan Robinson to improve the starting lineup and bring back Rose and Taj as the Thibs guys to lead them.

PG: Ball/Rose/Vildoza
SG: Barrett/IQ/Mann/Pinson
SF: Robinson/Murphy/Knox
PF: Randle/Taj
C: Robinson/Jackson/Pelle


Its a good strategy. You forgot Obi.

Ball (20M)/Rose(9M)/Vildoza(3M)
Barret (8,5M)/IQ (2M)/Mann (32 pick 1,5M)/
Robinson (20M)/Murphy (19pick, 3M)/Knox (6M)
Randle (20M)/Obi (5M)/Taj (min)
Robinson (2M)/Jackson (21pick,2,5M)/Pelle (1,5M)

I only think it will be tough for Mann (or Jackson) to drop to 32.
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#804 » by Infinitimind » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:00 pm

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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#805 » by Polk377 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:04 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
Polk377 wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
yep. and theoretically, we'd be buying his prime years


If we can work the draft to our advantage and fill the lineup holes by replacing Bullock (Murphy), Noel (Jackson) and Burks (Mann). We then have room to sign a couple of upgrade pieces like Ball and Duncan Robinson to improve the starting lineup and bring back Rose and Taj as the Thibs guys to lead them.

PG: Ball/Rose/Vildoza
SG: Barrett/IQ/Mann/Pinson
SF: Robinson/Murphy/Knox
PF: Randle/Taj
C: Robinson/Jackson/Pelle


Its a good strategy. You forgot Obi.

Ball (20M)/Rose(9M)/Vildoza(3M)
Barret (8,5M)/IQ (2M)/Mann (32 pick 1,5M)/
Robinson (20M)/Murphy (19pick, 3M)/Knox (6M)
Randle (20M)/Obi (5M)/Taj (min)
Robinson (2M)/Jackson (21pick,2,5M)/Pelle (1,5M)

I only think it will be tough for Mann (or Jackson) to drop to 32.


Definitely did forget Obi. Might have to trade 32 along with future 2nd rounders to move into the late 1st for Jackson or Mann.
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#806 » by knickstape4ever » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:10 pm

Polk377 wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
Polk377 wrote:
If we can work the draft to our advantage and fill the lineup holes by replacing Bullock (Murphy), Noel (Jackson) and Burks (Mann). We then have room to sign a couple of upgrade pieces like Ball and Duncan Robinson to improve the starting lineup and bring back Rose and Taj as the Thibs guys to lead them.

PG: Ball/Rose/Vildoza
SG: Barrett/IQ/Mann/Pinson
SF: Robinson/Murphy/Knox
PF: Randle/Taj
C: Robinson/Jackson/Pelle


Its a good strategy. You forgot Obi.

Ball (20M)/Rose(9M)/Vildoza(3M)
Barret (8,5M)/IQ (2M)/Mann (32 pick 1,5M)/
Robinson (20M)/Murphy (19pick, 3M)/Knox (6M)
Randle (20M)/Obi (5M)/Taj (min)
Robinson (2M)/Jackson (21pick,2,5M)/Pelle (1,5M)

I only think it will be tough for Mann (or Jackson) to drop to 32.


Definitely did forget Obi. Might have to trade 32 along with future 2nd rounders to move into the late 1st for Jackson or Mann.


I'd do it. I'd have no problem rostering 3 rookies. IMO if we're unable to land a superstar (which looks to be the case), load up on young talent b/c the Knicks are still talent deficient

ngl, kinda jealous of Atlanta; they have bright future, and a lot of those guys were recent draft picks
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#807 » by Polk377 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:14 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:
Polk377 wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
Its a good strategy. You forgot Obi.

Ball (20M)/Rose(9M)/Vildoza(3M)
Barret (8,5M)/IQ (2M)/Mann (32 pick 1,5M)/
Robinson (20M)/Murphy (19pick, 3M)/Knox (6M)
Randle (20M)/Obi (5M)/Taj (min)
Robinson (2M)/Jackson (21pick,2,5M)/Pelle (1,5M)

I only think it will be tough for Mann (or Jackson) to drop to 32.


Definitely did forget Obi. Might have to trade 32 along with future 2nd rounders to move into the late 1st for Jackson or Mann.


I'd do it. I'd have no problem rostering 3 rookies. IMO if we're unable to land a superstar (which looks to be the case), load up on young talent b/c the Knicks are still talent deficient

ngl, kinda jealous of Atlanta; they have bright future, and a lot of those guys were recent draft picks


Yes. Might as well keep all of our assets and build upon our core instead of tearing it down just to take a shot at a superstar with no depth to help them like what happened with Melo. It just takes the right guys that can plug into their roles and work as a unit.
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#808 » by -YogiBiz- » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:50 pm

Anyone interested in Norman Powell?
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#809 » by ag3 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:27 pm

Whatever Leon does, it's imperative he keeps a max slot open for next off-season.

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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#810 » by sol537 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:48 pm

1) Sign Lowry (if reasonable)
2) Sign Duncan Robinson (if reasonable)
3) Consolidate picks to move up and draft BPA
4) Bring back Rose, Taj, and Bullock on 1-year deals to bolster bench

Those *simple* moves could get us to 55 wins, a top 4 seeding, and a 1st round advancement, all of which would be equivalent to taking the next step forward as a franchise.
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#811 » by dukeknicksirish » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:04 pm

sol537 wrote:1) Sign Lowry (if reasonable)
2) Sign Duncan Robinson (if reasonable)
3) Consolidate picks to move up and draft BPA
4) Bring back Rose, Taj, and Bullock on 1-year deals to bolster bench

Those *simple* moves could get us to 55 wins, a top 4 seeding, and a 1st round advancement, all of which would be equivalent to taking the next step forward as a franchise.


Imagine seeing a roster of:

Lowry / Rose / Luca /
Robinson / IQ / Pinson
RJ / Bullcok / Grimes*
Randle / Obi / Ziaire*
Mitch / Jackson* / Taj

:o :nod:
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#812 » by Riot Randolph » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:17 pm

dukeknicksirish wrote:
sol537 wrote:1) Sign Lowry (if reasonable)
2) Sign Duncan Robinson (if reasonable)
3) Consolidate picks to move up and draft BPA
4) Bring back Rose, Taj, and Bullock on 1-year deals to bolster bench

Those *simple* moves could get us to 55 wins, a top 4 seeding, and a 1st round advancement, all of which would be equivalent to taking the next step forward as a franchise.


Imagine seeing a roster of:

Lowry / Rose / Luca /
Robinson / IQ / Pinson
RJ / Bullcok / Grimes*
Randle / Obi / Ziaire*
Mitch / Jackson* / Taj

:o :nod:

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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#813 » by moocow007 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:24 pm

-YogiBiz- wrote:Anyone interested in Norman Powell?


Not anymore than I was interested in FVV last season. He's not what the Knicks need for the price that is being bandied about. Knicks need a top tier shot creator that can create his own shot in heavy traffic and the opposing team's defense focused on him (see playoffs). That's not Powell's strength. His strength is seeing openings, making cuts to get himself in to excellent position to score when the ball is passed to him and using his smarts and toughness to get the ball in the basket. He needs to play with a facilitator to maximize his game. That's not the Knicks until they actually find a top tier shot creating PG. They don't need to lock up a quarter (or more) of the teams salary cap on a guy like Powell...and another likely quarter (at least) of the team cap to find someone that can set him up. They need to find the next Norman Powell before he is ready for a mega sized contract. They need to find the next Dillon Brooks (if we want to talk comparative possibilities).
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#814 » by RHODEY » Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:55 pm

moocow007 wrote:
-YogiBiz- wrote:Anyone interested in Norman Powell?


Not anymore than I was interested in FVV last season. He's not what the Knicks need for the price that is being bandied about. Knicks need a top tier shot creator that can create his own shot in heavy traffic and the opposing team's defense focused on him (see playoffs). That's not Powell's strength. His strength is seeing openings, making cuts to get himself in to excellent position to score when the ball is passed to him and using his smarts and toughness to get the ball in the basket. He needs to play with a facilitator to maximize his game. That's not the Knicks until they actually find a top tier shot creating PG. They don't need to lock up a quarter (or more) of the teams salary cap on a guy like Powell...and another likely quarter (at least) of the team cap to find someone that can set him up. They need to find the next Norman Powell before he is ready for a mega sized contract. They need to find the next Dillon Brooks (if we want to talk comparative possibilities).


I recall being high on him after he dropped 42 points for the Raps. But he was kinda only solid for the Blazers.

And as you stated he's going to command more than "solid" money.
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#815 » by sol537 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:10 pm

dukeknicksirish wrote:
sol537 wrote:1) Sign Lowry (if reasonable)
2) Sign Duncan Robinson (if reasonable)
3) Consolidate picks to move up and draft BPA
4) Bring back Rose, Taj, and Bullock on 1-year deals to bolster bench

Those *simple* moves could get us to 55 wins, a top 4 seeding, and a 1st round advancement, all of which would be equivalent to taking the next step forward as a franchise.


Imagine seeing a roster of:

Lowry / Rose / Luca /
Robinson / IQ / Pinson
RJ / Bullcok / Grimes*
Randle / Obi / Ziaire*
Mitch / Jackson* / Taj

:o :nod:


It's realistic and would put us on really solid footing. That team would COMPETE every single night.
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#816 » by newyorker4ever » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:46 pm

-YogiBiz- wrote:Anyone interested in Norman Powell?


Would love to get N.Powell. I've posted about signing him and Lowry and trading for M.Turner a couple of times.

PG--K.Lowry
SG--N.Powell/RJ
SF--RJ/N.Powell
PF--J.Randle
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#817 » by 8516knicks » Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:04 pm

sol537 wrote:
dukeknicksirish wrote:
sol537 wrote:1) Sign Lowry (if reasonable)
2) Sign Duncan Robinson (if reasonable)
3) Consolidate picks to move up and draft BPA
4) Bring back Rose, Taj, and Bullock on 1-year deals to bolster bench

Those *simple* moves could get us to 55 wins, a top 4 seeding, and a 1st round advancement, all of which would be equivalent to taking the next step forward as a franchise.


Imagine seeing a roster of:

Lowry / Rose / Luca /
Robinson / IQ / Pinson
RJ / Bullcok / Grimes*
Randle / Obi / Ziaire*
Mitch / Jackson* / Taj

:o :nod:


It's realistic and would put us on really solid footing. That team would COMPETE every single night.


I agree. Lowry would not allow them to quit. And lots of young talent. But I don't see 55 wins there - maybe 47/48 but still chance at conf finals.
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#818 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:05 am

We want needle moving moves. Thats Lillard, thats Kawhi then if not you pivot to Sexton and SGA.
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#819 » by Futureisnow » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:35 pm

8516knicks wrote:I wonder just how much veto power (or positive pull) Thibs exerts in who we target. Is he pretty much the "decider" when it comes down to it, or is it Leon? (or, god forbid, Dolan?)


According to the NY post article about our front office, the main reason we got Quickley was because Thibs said we need shooting. Granted, WWW ran with that and badgered the hell out of everyone in the room to get Quickley here, but it seems Thibs is pretty influential in these matters. But that would probably be the case anyway considering how long he, Rose and WWW have known one another and considering each other friends.
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