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Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1841 » by Knox » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:01 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:The main reason why we thirsty for him is cause our other options suck. I would rather take a chance on Sexton instead of overpaying Lonzo/Schroder.


I think his ability to improve and work on his weaknesses is another reason why we are thirsting. Lonzo would be second on putting in the work to improve. If Lonzo showed the ability to break down a defense more would be interested. Schroeder, well this guy couldn’t help a roster with Lebron and AD win. Schroeder had plenty of opportunities to get himself a fat contract in the playoffs. Didn’t do enough for me
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1842 » by Reign23 » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:15 pm

just give me two of sexton, lonzo, powell, trent, lowry for team building as well as future trade pieces if a bigger star becomes available.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1843 » by FreeSpiritNY » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:59 am

The funniest thing people who say they don’t want sexton are the same who wanted the Knicks to lose. When was the last time the Knicks had a 23 year player scoring 24 points a night?
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1844 » by spree8 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:11 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:The main reason why we thirsty for him is cause our other options suck. I would rather take a chance on Sexton instead of overpaying Lonzo/Schroder.

I like him cause the proposals look like this:

Read on Twitter


Which is basically nothing to get a guy on his rookie contract for one more year to evaluate, and we'd still have max cap room next summer.




We couldn’t do that deal tho because free agency is after the draft.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1845 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:20 am

FreeSpiritNY wrote:The funniest thing people who say they don’t want sexton are the same who wanted the Knicks to lose. When was the last time the Knicks had a 23 year player scoring 24 points a night?

That's not me. I'm the opposite. I want Sexton because I want young players.
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Re: Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor 

Post#1846 » by Knicksfan1992 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:16 am

While I do believe empty stats can be a thing you don't just score 24 ppg at the guard position that efficiently in the NBA and are a nothing player.... You still have to line up against NBA quality talent night in and night out and produce. Even if the team isn't great these guys arent out there half assing it. It's their livelihood lol. There's obviously something there with Collin. The question is how much of something is it? The Cavs just don't want to pay to find out because they are scared to put the cart before the horse and they have another guard they don't have to pay for 2 more years. I don't think it's a complete indictment that the Cavs of all organizations are giving up on him... They aren't exactly the crown jewel of development not smarts as a franchise on that end of the spectrum.
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Post#1847 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:58 am

Knicksfan1992 wrote:While I do believe empty stats can be a thing you don't just score 24 ppg at the guard position that efficiently in the NBA and are a nothing player.... You still have to line up against NBA quality talent night in and night out and produce. Even if the team isn't great these guys arent out there half assing it. It's their livelihood lol. There's obviously something there with Collin. The question is how much of something is it? The Cavs just don't want to pay to find out because they are scared to put the cart before the horse and they have another guard they don't have to pay for 2 more years. I don't think it's a complete indictment that the Cavs of all organizations are giving up on him... They aren't exactly the crown jewel of development not smarts as a franchise on that end of the spectrum.

Also, with any player so much is about context and surrounding. Look at Kyrie stinking it up in Boston after winning a championship and then kemba doing much better than him - only to suck ass a year later. There are plenty of those examples where a player turns up his efficiency in a new situation and we could get a nice building block (who isn't even inefficient to begin with) for a young and winning team.

What's more to ask?
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Post#1848 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:16 am

Is Tre Mann budget Colin Sexton though?
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Post#1849 » by KnixinSix » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:24 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:While I do believe empty stats can be a thing you don't just score 24 ppg at the guard position that efficiently in the NBA and are a nothing player.... You still have to line up against NBA quality talent night in and night out and produce. Even if the team isn't great these guys arent out there half assing it. It's their livelihood lol. There's obviously something there with Collin. The question is how much of something is it? The Cavs just don't want to pay to find out because they are scared to put the cart before the horse and they have another guard they don't have to pay for 2 more years. I don't think it's a complete indictment that the Cavs of all organizations are giving up on him... They aren't exactly the crown jewel of development not smarts as a franchise on that end of the spectrum.


High efficiency scoring is such an underrated aspect. This isn't a volume scorer chucking up shots to accumulate stats on a bad team. He has a very good overall FG%. Still want Lillard more but Sexton is not a bad consolation.
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Post#1850 » by Knicksfan1992 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:56 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Is Tre Mann budget Colin Sexton though?


Not as athletic more of a shot maker. Collin is a better attacker and really improved his jumper since he's been in the league. I'd bet on Collin more long term than Tre. Tre needs a lot of things to go right to become an NBA starter IMO. Collin is already right there.
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Post#1851 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:58 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:Is Tre Mann budget Colin Sexton though?


Not as athletic more of a shot maker. Collin is a better attacker and really improved his jumper since he's been in the league. I'd bet on Collin more long term than Tre. Tre needs a lot of things to go right to become an NBA starter IMO. Collin is already right there.


I'm still kind of hoping for a Sexton trade and then the Knicks take the best option of Duarte/Mann/Murphy III/Hyland at 19 and hopefully a good player is still around at 32
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Post#1852 » by Knicksfan1992 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:59 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:While I do believe empty stats can be a thing you don't just score 24 ppg at the guard position that efficiently in the NBA and are a nothing player.... You still have to line up against NBA quality talent night in and night out and produce. Even if the team isn't great these guys arent out there half assing it. It's their livelihood lol. There's obviously something there with Collin. The question is how much of something is it? The Cavs just don't want to pay to find out because they are scared to put the cart before the horse and they have another guard they don't have to pay for 2 more years. I don't think it's a complete indictment that the Cavs of all organizations are giving up on him... They aren't exactly the crown jewel of development not smarts as a franchise on that end of the spectrum.

Also, with any player so much is about context and surrounding. Look at Kyrie stinking it up in Boston after winning a championship and then kemba doing much better than him - only to suck ass a year later. There are plenty of those examples where a player turns up his efficiency in a new situation and we could get a nice building block (who isn't even inefficient to begin with) for a young and winning team.

What's more to ask?


Kyrie also lost a lot in Cleveland, coincidentally, before LeBron showed up. What would we think about him if LeBron was never born in Akron? Lol

I don't think Sexton will get to that level, but is it really completely out of the question given what he has already individually produced within 3 years? It's worth the gamble IMO.
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Post#1853 » by KnixinSix » Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:14 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:While I do believe empty stats can be a thing you don't just score 24 ppg at the guard position that efficiently in the NBA and are a nothing player.... You still have to line up against NBA quality talent night in and night out and produce. Even if the team isn't great these guys arent out there half assing it. It's their livelihood lol. There's obviously something there with Collin. The question is how much of something is it? The Cavs just don't want to pay to find out because they are scared to put the cart before the horse and they have another guard they don't have to pay for 2 more years. I don't think it's a complete indictment that the Cavs of all organizations are giving up on him... They aren't exactly the crown jewel of development not smarts as a franchise on that end of the spectrum.

Also, with any player so much is about context and surrounding. Look at Kyrie stinking it up in Boston after winning a championship and then kemba doing much better than him - only to suck ass a year later. There are plenty of those examples where a player turns up his efficiency in a new situation and we could get a nice building block (who isn't even inefficient to begin with) for a young and winning team.

What's more to ask?


Kyrie also lost a lot in Cleveland, coincidentally, before LeBron showed up. What would we think about him if LeBron was never born in Akron? Lol

I don't think Sexton will get to that level, but is it really completely out of the question given what he has already individually produced within 3 years? It's worth the gamble IMO.


It is worth the gamble depending on asking price maybe even moreso if we can't get Lillard and/or Kawhi.
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Post#1854 » by WajaBawl » Sat Jul 24, 2021 7:28 pm

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Knicksfan1992 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Is Tre Mann budget Colin Sexton though?


Not as athletic more of a shot maker. Collin is a better attacker and really improved his jumper since he's been in the league. I'd bet on Collin more long term than Tre. Tre needs a lot of things to go right to become an NBA starter IMO. Collin is already right there.


I'm still kind of hoping for a Sexton trade and then the Knicks take the best option of Duarte/Mann/Murphy III/Hyland at 19 and hopefully a good player is still around at 32


As much as I love Hyland, and think he's the best talent in the area we are picking, the fit would be awkward having three undersized shooting guards in IQ, Bones, and Sexton. No real playmaking outside of maybe Vildoza who isn't even running point for Argentina.
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Post#1855 » by aggo » Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:17 pm

guys its the NBA

you dont win without superstars and a robin. you can have the #1 defense in the world but if you dont score more than your opponent, you dont win games.

Collin Sexton might not be a #1 or a superstar, but his production, efficiency, improvement every year makes me think he's more than enough to be a #2 on a championship level team. Put him next to a hard-ass coach like Thibs and I really do think he can improve and become even more disciplined when hes playing in a more structured offense that demands he makes the right pass.

Everyone here loves Donovan Mitchell but how exactly is he any different than Sexton? They are quite literally the same player, do the same things, but on different teams.
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Post#1856 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:07 am

All this is fun, but the real fun is NY-Mentality talking anti vax conspiracies on a Jets site.
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Post#1857 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:35 am

Get ready for some Oubre, which you all deserve

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Post#1858 » by prophet_of_rage » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:39 am

thebuzzardman wrote:Get ready for some Oubre, which you all deserve

I'll take him.

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Post#1859 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:11 am

thebuzzardman wrote:All this is fun, but the real fun is NY-Mentality talking anti vax conspiracies on a Jets site.

Link? I wanna read it :lol:
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Post#1860 » by Juggynaut » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:39 am

I actually wouldn't mind Oubre. He's young, athletic. and I think he has potential to be better than what he is right now
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