Re: Sexton Convo, Update PG: 15 - Knicks most aggressive suitor

[DOT]

Quickley = Sexton in a few years anyway.

RJ = Jaylen Brown in a few years.

Same types of players, I see very similar trajectories.

Jaylen Brown is a way better finisher and athlete

He is, everything else is pretty similar to me though. If anything RJ is actually better than Jaylen was at age 20.

Jaylen Brown shot 62.6% at the rim on 369 attempts his sophomore year

RJ shot 60.7% on 364 attempts this year

Brown dunked a lot more because he's a better athlete (62/73, 85% for Brown on dunks, 40/43, 93% for RJ), but their layups were almost identical, with Brown finishing at 49.9% (184/369), and RJ finishing at 49.8% (207/416). Yes, I know it seems like shooting "at the rim" should just be dunks + layups, but apparently not (coming from bballref.com)

So to say Brown is a better athlete is true, and he is right now a way better finisher than RJ, but he wasn't better in his 2nd season (which he was still a year older than RJ is now). Also took Brown til year 4 to average over 2 apg, when RJ averaged 3 this year.

[3toheadmelo]

Jaylen Brown and RJ not the same. I was pretty high on Brown coming out of college. I don’t think RJ possesses the same potential as him

[iLLmatic860]

Rj will be better than Brown

[KnixinSix]

Multiple rumors have linked Cavs to being very interested in Nerlens Noel. Sign and Trade possibility to land us Sexton?

https://dailyknicks.com/2021/07/23/ny-knicks-nerlens-noel-key-collin-sexton-trade/amp/2/

I think the trade offered here is light but if we include Obi I think it easily could get done.

Then you still have plenty of money to land Lillard at PG and possibly even Oubre at SF.

[Jimmit79]

Also, it seems like Oubre is possibly the only player remotely interested and that the Knicks have any chance of getting.

westbrook (for 2 1sts)
rj
oubre
randle
mitch

scott perry da gawd

Sounds good to me. Maybe they can trade RJ somehow.

Send RJ to Pels for Ingram so Zion can be happy.

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[Jimmit79]

Quickley = Sexton in a few years anyway.

RJ = Jaylen Brown in a few years.

Same types of players, I see very similar trajectories.

Pass me that heisenberg meth buddy.

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[thebuzzardman]

westbrook (for 2 1sts)
rj
oubre
randle
mitch

scott perry da gawd

Sounds good to me. Maybe they can trade RJ somehow.

Send RJ to Pels for Ingram so Zion can be happy.

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Sounds like a plan!

[thebuzzardman]

Multiple rumors have linked Cavs to being very interested in Nerlens Noel. Sign and Trade possibility to land us Sexton?

https://dailyknicks.com/2021/07/23/ny-knicks-nerlens-noel-key-collin-sexton-trade/amp/2/

I think the trade offered here is light but if we include Obi I think it easily could get done.

Then you still have plenty of money to land Lillard at PG and possibly even Oubre at SF.

Knicks S&T Noel for T. Prince & a 2042 2nd rounder. Scott Perry & Brock Aller are running this show.

[Jimmit79]

In the end Aller will just waive the 100 2nd rounders him and Perry have collected.

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[thebuzzardman]

Apparently no one wants the Knicks garbage players and picks.

There will be dozens of trades but none for your Knicks.

Even the lowly Cavs don't want any Knick garbage.

[Chanel Bomber]

Oubre is way more athletic then RJ and doesn't get easily blocked like RJ but RJ is a better corner shooter.

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Also, it seems like Oubre is possibly the only player remotely interested and that the Knicks have any chance of getting.

westbrook (for 2 1sts)
rj
oubre
randle
mitch

scott perry da gawd

"(for 2 1sts)" legit made me laugh

[DickGrayson]

[*]

Apparently no one wants the Knicks garbage players and picks.

There will be dozens of trades but none for your Knicks.

Even the lowly Cavs don't want any Knick garbage.

No Hands was actually our best defender and without him we would probably finished a lower seed. Bigs who can switch and do everything guys like Brook Lopez cant are valuable in the NBA. Losing Noel will weaken our defense immensely and will force guys in tougher matches Noel cant cover.

Cleveland will be elite defensive having Allen/Noel as center depth. I hate trades that make other teams better.

[thebuzzardman]

[*]

Apparently no one wants the Knicks garbage players and picks.

There will be dozens of trades but none for your Knicks.

Even the lowly Cavs don't want any Knick garbage.

No Hands was actually our best defender and without him we would probably finished a lower seed. Bigs who can switch and do everything guys like Brook Lopez cant are valuable in the NBA. Losing Noel will weaken our defense immensely and will force guys in tougher matches Noel cant cover.

Cleveland will be elite defensive having Allen/Noel as center depth. I hate trades that make other teams better.

Don't worry. The trade won't happen anyway.

[KnixinSix]

[*]

Apparently no one wants the Knicks garbage players and picks.

There will be dozens of trades but none for your Knicks.

Even the lowly Cavs don't want any Knick garbage.

No Hands was actually our best defender and without him we would probably finished a lower seed. Bigs who can switch and do everything guys like Brook Lopez cant are valuable in the NBA. Losing Noel will weaken our defense immensely and will force guys in tougher matches Noel cant cover.

Cleveland will be elite defensive having Allen/Noel as center depth. I hate trades that make other teams better.

We get Mitch back and he will be much cheaper vs the cap.

Also for what Sexton brings it is well worth it.

Hard to see the Knicks NOT signing or trading for anyone this offseason. D.Rose leaked it out that we have big things planned. Surely we have a Plan A,B,C and D and all involve some pretty good players. I don't think we will just waste cap on middling players unless it's to complement a bigger player coming in.

Best case: Kawhi/Lillard
Mid case: Beal/Lowry or CP
Worst case: Sexton/Lonzo

Even the 'worst case' scenario significantly upgrades the roster. We likely don't win a championship with 'only' adding Sexton /Lonzo but if Thibs can work his magic with that combo like he did with Randle we will have strengthened a lot of our weaknesses from last year.

[thebuzzardman]

[*]

Apparently no one wants the Knicks garbage players and picks.

There will be dozens of trades but none for your Knicks.

Even the lowly Cavs don't want any Knick garbage.

No Hands was actually our best defender and without him we would probably finished a lower seed. Bigs who can switch and do everything guys like Brook Lopez cant are valuable in the NBA. Losing Noel will weaken our defense immensely and will force guys in tougher matches Noel cant cover.

Cleveland will be elite defensive having Allen/Noel as center depth. I hate trades that make other teams better.

We get Mitch back and he will be much cheaper vs the cap.

Also for what Sexton brings it is well worth it.

Hard to see the Knicks NOT signing or trading for anyone this offseason. D.Rose leaked it out that we have big things planned. Surely we have a Plan A,B,C and D and all involve some pretty good players. I don't think we will just waste cap on middling players unless it's to complement a bigger player coming in.

Best case: Kawhi/Lillard
Mid case: Beal/Lowry or CP
Worst case: Sexton/Lonzo

Even the 'worst case' scenario significantly upgrades the roster. We likely don't win a championship with 'only' adding Sexton /Lonzo but if Thibs can work his magic with that combo like he did with Randle we will have strengthened a lot of our weaknesses from last year.

Knicks not getting Sexton. They'll be lucky to get Cedi Osman.

[KnixinSix]

According to a recent report, the Cleveland Cavaliers are looking to pair rising star Collin Sexton with either Kevin Love or Taurean Prince in potential trade packages.

“I like that idea,” said Terry Pluto of Cleveland.com when asked about the possibility of the Cavaliers keeping Sexton. “I’ve heard the Cavs have been trying to pair him with Kevin Love ($60 million over two years) or Taurean Prince ($13 million in 2021-22) to get something decent in return.”

No way on Love as he straps us cap wise for 2 years. But Prince may be a Pill we can swallow. Sexton is only 6.4M.

Sexton/Prince for Noel (S&T)/Obi, 2022 or 2023 FRP

[Infinitimind]

Apparently no one wants the Knicks garbage players and picks.

There will be dozens of trades but none for your Knicks.

Even the lowly Cavs don't want any Knick garbage.

I think me and you go back froth on this topic a lot. But again we you devalued your young players and play one year vets this is what happens. There nothing you can tell me, with Robison out, you going play gibson 30 mins a game over Obi. Instead of Obi getting 25 mins and scoring 12 and 8, you have one of the oldest rookie looking meh out there.

But it’s all good we made the playoffs

[iLLmatic860]

Apparently no one wants the Knicks garbage players and picks.

There will be dozens of trades but none for your Knicks.

Even the lowly Cavs don't want any Knick garbage.

I think me and you go back froth on this topic a lot. But again we you devalued your young players and play one year vets this is what happens. There nothing you can tell me, with Robison out, you going play gibson 30 mins a game over Obi. Instead of Obi getting 25 mins and scoring 12 and 8, you have one of the oldest rookie looking meh out there.

But it’s all good we made the playoffs

Trust the process. We dont have to trade him this offseason lol. If he plays better next season then he can up his value

We don’t have to trade just for trading

[Richard4444]

Apparently no one wants the Knicks garbage players and picks.

There will be dozens of trades but none for your Knicks.

Even the lowly Cavs don't want any Knick garbage.

I think me and you go back froth on this topic a lot. But again we you devalued your young players and play one year vets this is what happens. There nothing you can tell me, with Robison out, you going play gibson 30 mins a game over Obi. Instead of Obi getting 25 mins and scoring 12 and 8, you have one of the oldest rookie looking meh out there.

But it’s all good we made the playoffs

Thibs would not play Obi as Center. Few teams would play rookie Obi as a Center.

The problem is Randle improved and became the main player on the roster taking minutes from Obi.

[thebuzzardman]

According to a recent report, the Cleveland Cavaliers are looking to pair rising star Collin Sexton with either Kevin Love or Taurean Prince in potential trade packages.

“I like that idea,” said Terry Pluto of Cleveland.com when asked about the possibility of the Cavaliers keeping Sexton. “I’ve heard the Cavs have been trying to pair him with Kevin Love ($60 million over two years) or Taurean Prince ($13 million in 2021-22) to get something decent in return.”

No way on Love as he straps us cap wise for 2 years. But Prince may be a Pill we can swallow. Sexton is only 6.4M.

Sexton/Prince for Noel (S&T)/Obi, 2022 or 2023 FRP

I'd hold those 2022,2023 picks and deal with the 2021 picks, since we have 3 that are all fairly good, though 32 not as good as 19,21.

Obi, Noel and 19 for Sexton/Prince pretty fair.
Actually, the fact that we send them Noel, if they want him that much, and take Prince off their books, AND send a pick, might mean Knox going out and not Obi.

That would be nice.

Of course, it'll probably Noel for Prince + future 2nd rounders.