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2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1401 » by Bruin » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:05 pm

2019nbachamps wrote:People need to stop comparing Barnes to Giannis. Giannis is 7 feet, a freak athlete, and a guy that comes along once a decade or so. He only started playing basketball a few years before being drafted and was on a superstar track after 3-4 years in the NBA. Giannis’ success is due to a mix of his incredible physical attributes and his killer work ethic.

I hope Barnes becomes a superstar but he almost certainly won’t match Giannis’ level.

Reaching Giannis level is obviously unlikely given how elite Giannis is but Giannis also grew since the time he came into the league. There’s a chance Barnes is still growing too

Happened to Tatum, Giannis, and other guys as well
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1402 » by Asif16 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:08 pm

I still think Lowry to Philly is the most likely Destination.

IF we can grab either Thybulle or Maxey....and then a large TPE to go with it...would be golden.
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Post#1403 » by Son Goku 25 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:09 pm

Barnes has a 7'4 wingspan, huge hands, guard like passing and hungry work ethic he's probably the closest to Giannis we've seen.
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1404 » by douggood » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:10 pm

Asif16 wrote:I still think Lowry to Philly is the most likely Destination.

IF we can grab either Thybulle or Maxey....and then a large TPE to go with it...would be golden.

76ers are not an option for tpe, you need the other team to have cap space to create tpe.

George hill or s&t Danny green will be the salary filler.
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1405 » by Asif16 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:11 pm

douggood wrote:
Asif16 wrote:I still think Lowry to Philly is the most likely Destination.

IF we can grab either Thybulle or Maxey....and then a large TPE to go with it...would be golden.

76ers are not an option for tpe, you need the other team to have cap space to create tpe.

George hill or s&t Danny green will be the salary filler.


Ah my apologies
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Post#1406 » by h4rrison » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:04 pm

Lowry for Simmons... LFG! Our top 8 is solid and a PO (play-in) team!!

Simmons
Siakam
FVV
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Post#1407 » by Morris_Shatford » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:14 pm

Asif16 wrote:I still think Lowry to Philly is the most likely Destination.

IF we can grab either Thybulle or Maxey....and then a large TPE to go with it...would be golden.


If you want a TPE you will need a team with 25m to 30m to facilitate a trade to Philly (Assuming that is allowed in an S&T, I am looking at you douggood)

Of the limited teams that have cap space of more than 25m OKC may potentially be the one that you can work out a three way dance with
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1408 » by Asif16 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:16 pm

Morris_Shatford wrote:
Asif16 wrote:I still think Lowry to Philly is the most likely Destination.

IF we can grab either Thybulle or Maxey....and then a large TPE to go with it...would be golden.


If you want a TPE you will need a team with 25m to 30m to facilitate a trade to Philly (Assuming that is allowed in an S&T, I am looking at you douggood)

Of the limited teams that have cap space of more than 25m OKC may potentially be the one that you can work out a three way dance with


That would be great.
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Post#1409 » by Asif16 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:16 pm

What are some Sign & Trade opportunities from Miami? Assuming Lowry wants to go there
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Post#1410 » by Rapsfan07 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:24 pm

Now that Hood's contract guaranteed date has been pushed back, I'm hoping we could use him in a trade.

FVV, Hood & Boucher for Levert & Turner.
Lowry S&T for Ball
Resign Birch
Resign Gary Trent Jr

Ball/Levert/Anunoby/Siakam/Turner
Flynn/Trent/Barnes/FA/Birch

We could play either Barnes or Yuta at the 4 but I feel like we may want to try and get someone who is a little more offense oriented in that second lineup.
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Post#1411 » by Morris_Shatford » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:27 pm

Asif16 wrote:What are some Sign & Trade opportunities from Miami? Assuming Lowry wants to go there


Miami is actually fairly simple in terms of a match;
They can exercise their 19m option on Dragic then add "stuff" or do a double S&T using Nunn or Robinson then add "stuff";

In terms of "stuff" picks are complicated due to the protections on the pick that is due to the Clippers till 2025 than unprotected in 2026 so technically they cant trade it unless they drop the protections.

They do have the less favorable of Philadelphia’s and Denver’s second rounder in 2022
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Post#1412 » by pilkoids » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:36 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:Now that Hood's contract guaranteed date has been pushed back, I'm hoping we could use him in a trade.

FVV, Hood & Boucher for Levert & Turner.
Lowry S&T for Ball
Resign Birch
Resign Gary Trent Jr

Ball/Levert/Anunoby/Siakam/Turner
Flynn/Trent/Barnes/FA/Birch

We could play either Barnes or Yuta at the 4 but I feel like we may want to try and get someone who is a little more offense oriented in that second lineup.


Why does Indiana do this? to avoid paying Levert?

I feel like there would be much better packages out there for Indiana.
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Post#1413 » by pilkoids » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:37 pm

Morris_Shatford wrote:
Asif16 wrote:What are some Sign & Trade opportunities from Miami? Assuming Lowry wants to go there


Miami is actually fairly simple in terms of a match;
They can exercise their 19m option on Dragic then add "stuff" or do a double S&T using Nunn or Robinson then add "stuff";

In terms of "stuff" picks are complicated due to the protections on the pick that is due to the Clippers till 2025 than unprotected in 2026 so technically they cant trade it unless they drop the protections.

They do have the less favorable of Philadelphia’s and Denver’s second rounder in 2022


Are people still high on Nunn? I've never seen a players value yo-yo like his has.

Either way, its for Lowry who is gone anyway so might as well get something out of it.
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1414 » by Morris_Shatford » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:40 pm

pilkoids wrote:
Morris_Shatford wrote:
Asif16 wrote:What are some Sign & Trade opportunities from Miami? Assuming Lowry wants to go there


Miami is actually fairly simple in terms of a match;
They can exercise their 19m option on Dragic then add "stuff" or do a double S&T using Nunn or Robinson then add "stuff";

In terms of "stuff" picks are complicated due to the protections on the pick that is due to the Clippers till 2025 than unprotected in 2026 so technically they cant trade it unless they drop the protections.

They do have the less favorable of Philadelphia’s and Denver’s second rounder in 2022


Are people still high on Nunn? I've never seen a players value yo-yo like his has.

Either way, its for Lowry who is gone anyway so might as well get something out of it.


I wouldn't want either of Nunn or Robinson personally but the Heat have a very limited secondary asset pool to draw from.
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Post#1415 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:54 pm

Would love to nab Wiseman and Moody for Pascal. Even if it means taking back Oubre in a S&T
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1416 » by Rapsfan07 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:33 pm

pilkoids wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:Now that Hood's contract guaranteed date has been pushed back, I'm hoping we could use him in a trade.

FVV, Hood & Boucher for Levert & Turner.
Lowry S&T for Ball
Resign Birch
Resign Gary Trent Jr

Ball/Levert/Anunoby/Siakam/Turner
Flynn/Trent/Barnes/FA/Birch

We could play either Barnes or Yuta at the 4 but I feel like we may want to try and get someone who is a little more offense oriented in that second lineup.


Why does Indiana do this? to avoid paying Levert?

I feel like there would be much better packages out there for Indiana.


Yeah that's kind of what I was thinking. But you're right - there might be better packages. Unfortunately that's the best we can offer and even that people might have a problem with.

There were reports though that the Pacers were looking for a PG and I think FVV and Brogdon could be a nice backcourt for them.

I have FVV as being more valuable than both Levert and Turner individually. Im not sure if Boucher is enough to make up the difference between them as a package though.
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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#1417 » by Rapsfan07 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:44 pm

Morris_Shatford wrote:
pilkoids wrote:
Morris_Shatford wrote:
Miami is actually fairly simple in terms of a match;
They can exercise their 19m option on Dragic then add "stuff" or do a double S&T using Nunn or Robinson then add "stuff";

In terms of "stuff" picks are complicated due to the protections on the pick that is due to the Clippers till 2025 than unprotected in 2026 so technically they cant trade it unless they drop the protections.

They do have the less favorable of Philadelphia’s and Denver’s second rounder in 2022


Are people still high on Nunn? I've never seen a players value yo-yo like his has.

Either way, its for Lowry who is gone anyway so might as well get something out of it.


I wouldn't want either of Nunn or Robinson personally but the Heat have a very limited secondary asset pool to draw from.


Well the good thing is the Heat have the capspace to pay Lowry if they want. Of course, they'll have to renounce a lot of their depth in order to do it but it can be done.

Now, I'm not sure this is going to happen due to how much the franchise loves Kyle, but maybe we use that as leverage to get more out of Miami? I'm not sure what more exactly but definitely more than we'd get in a S&T under normal circumstances.

I'd love for him to want to go to NOLA but in all honesty, I can't see that happening.

For arguments sake though, I'd be looking for at least two of Precious, Robinson and Nunn. If we're going to take on extra long term salary to benefit both the Heat and Lowry, it needs to be worth it for us in the long term. It would foolish for us to take ourselves out of the FA game just to give everyone else what they want.

At least way, the Heat will still have the ability to go over the cap to retain Bjecila, Dipo, Dragic etc and field a competitive team.
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Post#1418 » by StopitLeo » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:26 pm

Morris_Shatford wrote:
I wouldn't want either of Nunn or Robinson personally but the Heat have a very limited secondary asset pool to draw from.


Nunn is meh but I'd take Robinson; he has so much gravity because of his shooting and we could use that.
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Post#1419 » by Blood Orange » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:34 pm

I'm hoping Lowry decides to sign with the Clippers and we can help facilitate that idea.

Perhaps, Lowry S/T for Zubac + Beverly + Keon Johnson?


Why for the Clippers?
With the departure of Reggie Jackson, the Clippers opt for a proven championship caliber PG whose already played on a winning team with Kawhi Leonard.

Why for the Raps?
We get a starting caliber 5 with Zubac and a young prospect in Keon Johnson to provide as insurance for GTJ, just in case things don't work out with him.

Why for Lowry?
Lowry gets paid and goes to a contending team.
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Post#1420 » by Raptaurus » Fri Jul 30, 2021 9:50 pm

How bout a trade with Sacramento -

Toronto sends - Pascal Siakim
Toronto receives - Buddy Hield, Davion Mitchell or Tyrese Halliburton

This trade would give us a great pure shooter who can light it up and either one of two very promising PGs. The trade would provide more balance for our team.

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