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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#161 » by CobraCommander » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:19 pm

Are we 100% sure we won this? Chandler wasn’t bad when he got time
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#162 » by Halcyon » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:20 pm

CobraCommander wrote:Are we 100% sure we won this? Chandler wasn’t bad when he got time

He was pretty bad. Peaked in his first game. I've never seen someone get to the basket and miss layups like him.
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#163 » by nate33 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:20 pm

Benjammin wrote:Do the Wizards have cap space to use some of the MLE or biannual exception and still be under the luxury tax line? Or space to re-sign Neto or Matthews?

Cap space? No.

Luxtax space? Not much. Just $600K in room.

We may be parting with Mathews. But I suspect we go into the season a couple of mil above the luxtax and we trade Harrell at the deadline once Bryant is fully healthy.
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#164 » by nate33 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:21 pm

CobraCommander wrote:Are we 100% sure we won this? Chandler wasn’t bad when he got time

If we want him, we can sign him as a free agent next year. San Antonio won't be issuing a qualifying offer.
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#165 » by keynote » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:21 pm

Benjammin wrote:Do the Wizards have cap space to use some of the MLE or biannual exception and still be under the luxury tax line? Or space to re-sign Neto or Matthews?
I think we're only $600k below the tax. I suppose Ted would go over that line for, say, Kawhi; other than that, I suspect we won't add any more salary.
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#166 » by Gig18 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:23 pm

nate33 wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:Are we 100% sure we won this? Chandler wasn’t bad when he got time

If we want him, we can sign him as a free agent next year. San Antonio won't be issuing a qualifying offer.

Chandler's got talent, good slasher, but he was pretty shooting-challenged.
Where from here? We keep Kuzma? or try to trade him elsewhere?
There were some rumors that Minnesota liked him.
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#167 » by keynote » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:23 pm

Halcyon wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:Are we 100% sure we won this? Chandler wasn’t bad when he got time

He was pretty bad. Peaked in his first game. I've never seen someone get to the basket and miss layups like him.
This. He might have benefitted by being literally the only SF in uniform, but he didn't look like an NBA player to me.
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#168 » by nate33 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:24 pm

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Benjammin wrote:Do the Wizards have cap space to use some of the MLE or biannual exception and still be under the luxury tax line? Or space to re-sign Neto or Matthews?
I think we're only $600k below the tax. I suppose Ted would go over that line for, say, Kawhi; other than that, I suspect we won't add any more salary.

With Brooklyn, LA and Golden State so high above the tax, the redistribution payment is around $10M this year. So there is a massive incentive to stay below the tax line.

I had thought we would be okay going a couple mil over the luxtax with the assumption that we will get under at the Trade Deadline, but now I'm not so sure.

Maybe we will still find a way to move Bertans or Kuzma in the next week or so. (Kuzma can only moved by himself. He can't be packaged with anyone.) If not, we won't be resigning Mathews.
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Post#169 » by Benjammin » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:26 pm

I imagine Harrell at the deadline would be moved to make space perhaps.
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Post#170 » by Benjammin » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:27 pm

Five forwards who need minutes is one too many.
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Post#171 » by nate33 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:28 pm

In hindsight, that Aaron Holiday acquisition is looking pretty bad. If we refrained from doing it, we would have had a TPE large enough to absorb all of Dinwiddie's salary, and thereby save whatever 2nd round pick we just sent to San Antonio.

So basically, Aaron Holiday, with just 1-year remaining on his contract, cost us Hutchison, 9 slots in the draft (from 22 to 31), and a future 2nd round pick.
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#172 » by nate33 » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:29 pm

Benjammin wrote:I imagine Harrell at the deadline would be moved to make space perhaps.

It's a gamble. Teams will know how much money we will save by getting under the tax and will drive a hard bargain.
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#173 » by Benjammin » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:31 pm

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Benjammin wrote:I imagine Harrell at the deadline would be moved to make space perhaps.

It's a gamble. Teams will know how much money we will save by getting under the tax and will drive a hard bargain.


As you are someone pointed out, it's not the paying of a small amount of luxury tax that is significant but losing out on the almost ten million paid out as a non-luxury tax team.
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#174 » by djsunyc » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:33 pm

so the wizards top 11 right now:

dinwiddie, beal, riu, kcp, kuzma, harrell, holiday, bryant, bertans, avdija, kispert
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#175 » by Benjammin » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:35 pm

djsunyc wrote:so the wizards top 11 right now:

dinwiddie, beal, riu, kcp, kuzma, harrell, holiday, bryant, bertans, avdija, kispert


I'm sure you just forgot Gafford because he's well in there.
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#176 » by smoothSeph » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:37 pm

djsunyc wrote:so the wizards top 11 right now:

dinwiddie, beal, riu, kcp, kuzma, harrell, holiday, bryant, bertans, avdija, kispert

Gafford also. I don't think I've ever seen a Wiz roster this deep. Assuming everyone stays Unseld has his work cut out for him (in a good way).
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#177 » by J-Ves » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:38 pm

So just to clarify no first round picks were involved in this trade?
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#178 » by Halcyon » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:39 pm

I'm still a bit worried about our backcourt depth. Can they still sign Mathews and Neto or is that basically impossible now?
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#179 » by djsunyc » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:39 pm

smoothSeph wrote:
djsunyc wrote:so the wizards top 11 right now:

dinwiddie, beal, riu, kcp, kuzma, harrell, holiday, bryant, bertans, avdija, kispert

Gafford also. I don't think I've ever seen a Wiz roster this deep. Assuming everyone stays Unseld has his work cut out for him (in a good way).


so with dinwiddie's injury history, a quality backup pg is needed. so i can see another deal happening.
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Re: Wizards set to acquire Spencer Dinwiddie 

Post#180 » by Dat2U » Wed Aug 4, 2021 10:40 pm

So right now its:

G Dinwiddie ... Holiday ... (Winston)
G Beal ... Caldwell-Pope ... (Mathews)
F Avdija ... Kispert
F Hachimura ... Kuzma ... Bertans ... Todd
C Gafford ... Harrell ... Bryant

Harrell would fill a need short term with Bryant possibly not ready to start the season.

The Kuzma/Bertans situation will probably be resolved soon.

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