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2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2

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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1521 » by tradejosehesux » Fri Aug 6, 2021 10:43 pm

Where are we on Markenen? No cap space I suppose?
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1522 » by WeTheNorth123 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 10:46 pm

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We’re over the cap now and won’t have any cap space for the next 2-3 years, it would have been nice to sign some free talent.
But it wouldn't have been free talent. It would have been someone like Holmes and maybe another fringe player instead of picking up Precious. Everything has an opportunity cost.

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I’m not that high on Precious as some, players like him are a dime a dozen. Hopefully I’m wrong though


Unfortunately, i think your right

His type of tools (give or take) can be found in the second round
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1523 » by canada_dry » Fri Aug 6, 2021 10:53 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:Raps gonna surprise some teams next yr if we keep Dragic. Guy can play and always givces teams problems.

FVV/Flynn
Dragic/Trent
OG/Barnes
Siakam/Dekker
Birch/Achiuwa

We quickly went from zero young bench depth to really solid
Why do u always ignore Boucher at the 4? Dekker over boucher too?! Lol

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Cuz he's going to get squeezed out methinks. Dekker is a solid shooter and will be needed on that 2nd unit. With Achiuwa, Boucher's play is less needed.
Boucher is much better than dekker and can shoot too...i totally disagree.

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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1524 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:00 pm

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canada_dry wrote:Why do u always ignore Boucher at the 4? Dekker over boucher too?! Lol

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Cuz he's going to get squeezed out methinks. Dekker is a solid shooter and will be needed on that 2nd unit. With Achiuwa, Boucher's play is less needed.
Boucher is much better than dekker and can shoot too...i totally disagree.

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lol Much better? No. Likely same production. Boucher was just puttin up stats in losses and no where near the shooter of Dekker. He will get squeezed bc of Achiuwa.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1525 » by Bruin » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:04 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
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Cuz he's going to get squeezed out methinks. Dekker is a solid shooter and will be needed on that 2nd unit. With Achiuwa, Boucher's play is less needed.
Boucher is much better than dekker and can shoot too...i totally disagree.

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lol Much better? No. Likely same production. Boucher was just puttin up stats in losses and no where near the shooter of Dekker. He will get squeezed bc of Achiuwa.

I don’t think you realize how bad Dekker is. He’s a career 28% shooter from 3 and 60% FT in his 4 years in the NBA. How is he better than Boucher at shooting?
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1526 » by Asif16 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:07 pm

How much money to be have left now? Just Min? Is there any of the MLE left to use?

I was really hoping to target 1 more player, which was Josh Hart
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1527 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:09 pm

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canada_dry wrote:Boucher is much better than dekker and can shoot too...i totally disagree.

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lol Much better? No. Likely same production. Boucher was just puttin up stats in losses and no where near the shooter of Dekker. He will get squeezed bc of Achiuwa.

I don’t think you realize how bad Dekker is. He’s a career 28% shooter in his 4 years in the NBA. How is he better than Boucher at shooting?


It more has to do with Achiuwa coming in. I dont believe Boucher is a 4 and dont believe he's oging to work next to Achiuwa and I disagree that he's a better shooter than Dekker at this stage since he's much improved aside from inter. line. He put up empty stats and lost games... you are majorly over-rating him.

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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1528 » by gojoorange » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:11 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
canada_dry wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Cuz he's going to get squeezed out methinks. Dekker is a solid shooter and will be needed on that 2nd unit. With Achiuwa, Boucher's play is less needed.
Boucher is much better than dekker and can shoot too...i totally disagree.

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lol Much better? No. Likely same production. Boucher was just puttin up stats in losses and no where near the shooter of Dekker. He will get squeezed bc of Achiuwa.


Dekker had one good shooting season in Europe and he's a career 28% in the NBA. We need to see if his most recent season is actual improvement or not.

End of the day I doubt he makes it past training camp.
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Post#1529 » by Bruin » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:12 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
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WuTang_OG wrote:
lol Much better? No. Likely same production. Boucher was just puttin up stats in losses and no where near the shooter of Dekker. He will get squeezed bc of Achiuwa.

I don’t think you realize how bad Dekker is. He’s a career 28% shooter in his 4 years in the NBA. How is he better than Boucher at shooting?


It more has to do with Achiuwa coming in. I dont believe Boucher is a 4 and dont believe he's oging to work next to Achiuwa and I disagree that he's a better shooter than Dekker at this stage since he's much improved aside from inter. line. He put up empty stats and lost games... you are majorly over-rating him.

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I’m not overrating Boucher cause I’m actually not high on him at all. He is definitely better than Dekker though. How can you say he’s a better shooter than Boucher? Based on what? The stats from the 3 point line and FTs suggest otherwise

And yes, Boucher put up stats in losses but Dekker couldn’t even do that on a bad team
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1530 » by Los_29 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:12 pm

WeTheNorth123 wrote:
Raptors_128 wrote:
Wasp wrote:But it wouldn't have been free talent. It would have been someone like Holmes and maybe another fringe player instead of picking up Precious. Everything has an opportunity cost.

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I’m not that high on Precious as some, players like him are a dime a dozen. Hopefully I’m wrong though


Unfortunately, i think your right

His type of tools (give or take) can be found in the second round


In today's NBA guys like Precious are being drafted earlier. It's also a very good sign that a team like the Heat drafted him and that the Raptors were interested enough in him to trade for him. The Heat and Raptors are arguably the two best drafting teams in the league. At least over the past few years.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1531 » by Stromile12 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:13 pm

I'm optimistic about Precious and think he's the type of player that will buy in and perform well.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1532 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:14 pm

PrinceAli wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:I don’t think you realize how bad Dekker is. He’s a career 28% shooter in his 4 years in the NBA. How is he better than Boucher at shooting?


It more has to do with Achiuwa coming in. I dont believe Boucher is a 4 and dont believe he's oging to work next to Achiuwa and I disagree that he's a better shooter than Dekker at this stage since he's much improved aside from inter. line. He put up empty stats and lost games... you are majorly over-rating him.

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I’m not overrating Boucher cause I’m actually not high on him at all. He is definitely better than Dekker though. How can you say he’s a better shooter than Boucher? Based on what? The stats from the 3 point line and FTs suggest otherwise

And yes, Boucher put up stats in losses but Dekker couldn’t even do that on a bad team


We'll see. I dont see a place for Boucher in rotation with Achiuwa now in the fold.
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1533 » by Bruin » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:16 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
It more has to do with Achiuwa coming in. I dont believe Boucher is a 4 and dont believe he's oging to work next to Achiuwa and I disagree that he's a better shooter than Dekker at this stage since he's much improved aside from inter. line. He put up empty stats and lost games... you are majorly over-rating him.

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I’m not overrating Boucher cause I’m actually not high on him at all. He is definitely better than Dekker though. How can you say he’s a better shooter than Boucher? Based on what? The stats from the 3 point line and FTs suggest otherwise

And yes, Boucher put up stats in losses but Dekker couldn’t even do that on a bad team


We'll see. I dont see a place for Boucher in rotation with Achiuwa now in the fold.

I don’t see how Precious comes into the fold when it’s a discussion of Boucher vs Dekker

How does the addition of Precious make Boucher less useful but somehow Dekker more useful?
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1534 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:29 pm

PrinceAli wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:I’m not overrating Boucher cause I’m actually not high on him at all. He is definitely better than Dekker though. How can you say he’s a better shooter than Boucher? Based on what? The stats from the 3 point line and FTs suggest otherwise

And yes, Boucher put up stats in losses but Dekker couldn’t even do that on a bad team


We'll see. I dont see a place for Boucher in rotation with Achiuwa now in the fold.

I don’t see how Precious comes into the fold when it’s a discussion of Boucher vs Dekker

How does the addition of Precious make Boucher less useful but somehow Dekker more useful?


Will come down to fit. Achiuwa will take a lot of what Boucher was supposed to bring. And Dekker i believe will be a better fit. Thats my opinion. Not a fan of Boucher
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1535 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:41 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
canada_dry wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Raps gonna surprise some teams next yr if we keep Dragic. Guy can play and always givces teams problems.

FVV/Flynn
Dragic/Trent
OG/Barnes
Siakam/Dekker
Birch/Achiuwa

We quickly went from zero young bench depth to really solid
Why do u always ignore Boucher at the 4? Dekker over boucher too?! Lol

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Cuz he's going to get squeezed out methinks. Dekker is a solid shooter and will be needed on that 2nd unit. With Achiuwa, Boucher's play is less needed.


Bruh if you believe Dekker is getting minutes over Boucher. I got a bridge to sell you.
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Post#1536 » by aligator » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:47 pm

Bobby Webster: "It's pretty clear we're going to build around around Fred, OG, Pascal."
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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1537 » by WeTheNorth123 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:47 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
canada_dry wrote:Why do u always ignore Boucher at the 4? Dekker over boucher too?! Lol

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Cuz he's going to get squeezed out methinks. Dekker is a solid shooter and will be needed on that 2nd unit. With Achiuwa, Boucher's play is less needed.


Bruh if you believe Dekker is getting minutes over Boucher. I got a bridge to sell you.


Lmao! this shouldnt even be a question...

Boucher would destroy that league like he did with the G-League team

Webster just mentioned him...you think he would ever think to include Dekker in that conversation lol

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Re: 2021 Free Agency News & Discussion Part 2 

Post#1540 » by Asif16 » Fri Aug 6, 2021 11:57 pm

Boucher S&T for Josh Hart?

I think they need another Guard

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