Woj Kemba buying out of okc signing with NYC

[DaGawd]

I'd like it if Kemba can rehabilitate the number 6 after the one who won't be named and the one who must be forgotten.

What was his elementary public school in the Bronx? Maybe he can use that number the same way Taj does his.

Or he can just throw some cash at Grimes and buy 8... get him a new whip.

Yes that would be dope.. do it for NYC Kemba.. rock number 6!

[K_ick_God]

In the worst case scenario, if his knee is arthritic in some serious way, then rest doesn't matter a lot. No amount of rest will change somebody's cartilage if it's not there, so it's sort of maybe not a big deal. There are options though, like maybe cortisone injections.

Even the Nets are very dependent on guys with iffy, almost equally if not more so, medicals at this point.

[Luv those Knicks]

I don't hate it, but this is such a quintessential Knicks move. Grab a former star PG in the twilight of his career.

We've now had past his prime Steve Francis, Baron Davis, JKidd, Chauncey... now Kemba. I have no doubt we'll sign Westbrook when he loses the last of his hops.

Don't forget Mark Jackson, who they traded a first round pick for.

Not all of these were the same though.

Mets took on Steve Francis' contract, which was pointless, though I suppose, at least it wasn't a long contract.

Jason Kidd was 39 when they signed him, coming off the worst season of his career. Kind of ancient.

Baron Davis was such a good player that he'd been waived by the Cavs before we got him, and he signed for the vet minimum, or very close to it.

Chauncy wasn't bad when he got here, but he was part of the trade every asset they have for Melo trade. Not a good trade.

Kemba wasn't their first choice, but when the top free agents were gone, and for what he costs (almost nothing), I like the move.

But, I'll agree with you somewhat. This move is similar to some of those, BD & Kidd mostly, but those moves didn't cost anything except a roster spot and 1-3 million. Kemba showed a lot more tallent last year either Davis or Kidd before the got them, so . . . I'm feeling optimistic about this one.

Chauncy was a good player here, just a bad trade, and remember Derek Harper - that one worked out, though that was a long time ago.

[Capn'O]

I don't hate it, but this is such a quintessential Knicks move. Grab a former star PG in the twilight of his career.

We've now had past his prime Steve Francis, Baron Davis, JKidd, Chauncey... now Kemba. I have no doubt we'll sign Westbrook when he loses the last of his hops.

Don't forget Mark Jackson, who they traded a first round pick for.

Not all of these were the same though.

Mets took on Steve Francis' contract, which was pointless, though I suppose, at least it wasn't a long contract.

Jason Kidd was 39 when they signed him, coming off the worst season of his career. Kind of ancient.

Baron Davis was such a good player that he'd been waived by the Cavs before we got him, and he signed for the vet minimum, or very close to it.

Chauncy wasn't bad when he got here, but he was part of the trade every asset they have for Melo trade. Not a good trade.

Kemba wasn't their first choice, but when the top free agents were gone, and for what he costs (almost nothing), I like the move.

But, I'll agree with you somewhat. This move is similar to some of those, BD & Kidd mostly, but those moves didn't cost anything except a roster spot and 1-3 million. Kemba showed a lot more tallent last year either Davis or Kidd before the got them, so . . . I'm feeling optimistic about this one.

Chauncy was a good player here, just a bad trade, and remember Derek Harper - that one worked out, though that was a long time ago.

The ones you mention were also good moves

[Luv those Knicks]

The ones you mention were also good moves

I don't know. I think Kidd was fine. I don't remember liking BD here, but any low cost move is generally no big deal and totally fine.

I think Kemba has more upside.

[Knickkilla]

I'll be honest. I lost interest in the Knicks for a while. They were too bad for too long, but they began to get my interest again last year with the strong finish and playoffs, even though they lost rather convincingly, it was nice to see them get there.

I haven't visited this board in a while, but the moves today inspired me to come back and do some reading.

Oh My God! Luv those Knicks! Your Back!

You were one of my Favorite posters in the early 2000s

I still remember a back and forth heated debate between you & Me regarding Vin Baker during the 03 season

You gotta stick around keep posting Brother, your BB & IQ knowledge is impeccable

Thank you sir. OMG, I haven't thought about Vin Baker in like a decade.

Let me guess. I believed in him and you didn't, and you were right, I was wrong. I don't remember, but I'm guessing that's how the debate went.

I remember believing in him for some reason.

My knowledge isn't what it used to be. I used to watch every game. I used to know pretty much every player in the league, now it's like, someone says "We signed this guy" and I have to look them up.

Remember when Pat Riley benched Doug Christie for 2 years, and not long after he left, he became a useful 6th man. That was such a waste. That was probably before RealGM, but it stuck in my mind for some reason.

I'll try to stick around though. Nice to see you.

Same to you Bro!

The debate was related with some Clarence Weatherspoon stuff if I vaguely remember (man, I think Weatherspoon lead the league in his own shot getting blocked, the next Charles Barkley he was not )

PS: Travis Knight's Dong (only early 2000's Knicks real GM posters will get this reference)

[BBALLER4FR]

Oh My God! Luv those Knicks! Your Back!

You were one of my Favorite posters in the early 2000s

I still remember a back and forth heated debate between you & Me regarding Vin Baker during the 03 season

You gotta stick around keep posting Brother, your BB & IQ knowledge is impeccable

Thank you sir. OMG, I haven't thought about Vin Baker in like a decade.

Let me guess. I believed in him and you didn't, and you were right, I was wrong. I don't remember, but I'm guessing that's how the debate went.

I remember believing in him for some reason.

My knowledge isn't what it used to be. I used to watch every game. I used to know pretty much every player in the league, now it's like, someone says "We signed this guy" and I have to look them up.

Remember when Pat Riley benched Doug Christie for 2 years, and not long after he left, he became a useful 6th man. That was such a waste. That was probably before RealGM, but it stuck in my mind for some reason.

I'll try to stick around though. Nice to see you.

Same to you Bro!

The debate was related with some Clarence Weatherspoon stuff if I vaguely remember (man, I think Weatherspoon lead the league in his own shot getting blocked, the next Charles Barkley he was not )

PS: Travis Knight's Dong (only early 2000's Knicks real GM posters will get this reference)

Hmmm. Interesting.

[NotDikembeSayNo]

Oh My God! Luv those Knicks! Your Back!

You were one of my Favorite posters in the early 2000s

I still remember a back and forth heated debate between you & Me regarding Vin Baker during the 03 season

You gotta stick around keep posting Brother, your BB & IQ knowledge is impeccable

Thank you sir. OMG, I haven't thought about Vin Baker in like a decade.

Let me guess. I believed in him and you didn't, and you were right, I was wrong. I don't remember, but I'm guessing that's how the debate went.

I remember believing in him for some reason.

My knowledge isn't what it used to be. I used to watch every game. I used to know pretty much every player in the league, now it's like, someone says "We signed this guy" and I have to look them up.

Remember when Pat Riley benched Doug Christie for 2 years, and not long after he left, he became a useful 6th man. That was such a waste. That was probably before RealGM, but it stuck in my mind for some reason.

I'll try to stick around though. Nice to see you.

Same to you Bro!

The debate was related with some Clarence Weatherspoon stuff if I vaguely remember (man, I think Weatherspoon lead the league in his own shot getting blocked, the next Charles Barkley he was not )

PS: Travis Knight's Dong (only early 2000's Knicks real GM posters will get this reference)

Travis Knight's Dong was legendary. The poster and the actual dong.

For the life of me I can't remember the name of the one dude who constantly complained about literally everything and would fight anyone who disagreed. I know that sounds like literally every poster on this site now but back in the day we actually used to have hope. We defended Frank Williams and Jackie Butler to death. Lee Nailon was a stud. Maciej Lampe was a STEAL in the second. Actually we all hated Clarence Weatherspoon, even though my username was C-Spoon for a while.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

Kemba Walker joining Knicks with ‘dicey’ knee injury -

Walker also could be subject to physicals before the official signing — examinations that Dr. Wellington Hsu, professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at Northwestern University, recommends.

The homecoming of Walker, who grew up in The Bronx and played at Rice High School in Harlem, could turn into a storybook tale, but it’s more likely his star power will be muted by knee maintenance.

Hsu said the stem-cell injections demonstrate severe wearing of the articular cartilage.

Injections of platelet-enriched plasma have been used as a remedy for that malady. But in the past four years, the stem-cell method has gained steam. In this procedure, Walker reportedly had stem cells taken from his hip and injected into his knee cavity.

“It can help pain and inflammation from arthritis,’’ Hsu said. “But the articular cartilage that lines the bone of the knee is wearing down.’’

That condition doesn’t bode well for Walker to return to All-Star form. The former Connecticut point guard, who won an NCAA title with the Huskies in 2011, was an All-Star four straight seasons, from 2016-20, before last season’s decline.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/06/kemba-walkers-knee-injury-could-become-dicey-knicks-situation/

[3toheadmelo]

Kemba Walker joining Knicks with ‘dicey’ knee injury -

Walker also could be subject to physicals before the official signing — examinations that Dr. Wellington Hsu, professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at Northwestern University, recommends.

The homecoming of Walker, who grew up in The Bronx and played at Rice High School in Harlem, could turn into a storybook tale, but it’s more likely his star power will be muted by knee maintenance.

Hsu said the stem-cell injections demonstrate severe wearing of the articular cartilage.

Injections of platelet-enriched plasma have been used as a remedy for that malady. But in the past four years, the stem-cell method has gained steam. In this procedure, Walker reportedly had stem cells taken from his hip and injected into his knee cavity.

“It can help pain and inflammation from arthritis,’’ Hsu said. “But the articular cartilage that lines the bone of the knee is wearing down.’’

That condition doesn’t bode well for Walker to return to All-Star form. The former Connecticut point guard, who won an NCAA title with the Huskies in 2011, was an All-Star four straight seasons, from 2016-20, before last season’s decline.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/06/kemba-walkers-knee-injury-could-become-dicey-knicks-situation/

Good thing we got him only for 2 years

[cgmw]

Kemba Walker joining Knicks with ‘dicey’ knee injury -

Walker also could be subject to physicals before the official signing — examinations that Dr. Wellington Hsu, professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at Northwestern University, recommends.

The homecoming of Walker, who grew up in The Bronx and played at Rice High School in Harlem, could turn into a storybook tale, but it’s more likely his star power will be muted by knee maintenance.

Hsu said the stem-cell injections demonstrate severe wearing of the articular cartilage.

Injections of platelet-enriched plasma have been used as a remedy for that malady. But in the past four years, the stem-cell method has gained steam. In this procedure, Walker reportedly had stem cells taken from his hip and injected into his knee cavity.

“It can help pain and inflammation from arthritis,’’ Hsu said. “But the articular cartilage that lines the bone of the knee is wearing down.’’

That condition doesn’t bode well for Walker to return to All-Star form. The former Connecticut point guard, who won an NCAA title with the Huskies in 2011, was an All-Star four straight seasons, from 2016-20, before last season’s decline.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/06/kemba-walkers-knee-injury-could-become-dicey-knicks-situation/

Good thing we got him only for 2 years

No bueno. 31 is mighty young for doctors to start throwing around the word arthritis. Those years of hard-cut step backs and 2k jukes taking a toll. Still the man scored 20ppg last year. Watch Thibs sail through any minutes restrictions just to beat Cleveland on some random Tuesday in December.

[2010]

Kemba Walker joining Knicks with ‘dicey’ knee injury -

Walker also could be subject to physicals before the official signing — examinations that Dr. Wellington Hsu, professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at Northwestern University, recommends.

The homecoming of Walker, who grew up in The Bronx and played at Rice High School in Harlem, could turn into a storybook tale, but it’s more likely his star power will be muted by knee maintenance.

Hsu said the stem-cell injections demonstrate severe wearing of the articular cartilage.

Injections of platelet-enriched plasma have been used as a remedy for that malady. But in the past four years, the stem-cell method has gained steam. In this procedure, Walker reportedly had stem cells taken from his hip and injected into his knee cavity.

“It can help pain and inflammation from arthritis,’’ Hsu said. “But the articular cartilage that lines the bone of the knee is wearing down.’’

That condition doesn’t bode well for Walker to return to All-Star form. The former Connecticut point guard, who won an NCAA title with the Huskies in 2011, was an All-Star four straight seasons, from 2016-20, before last season’s decline.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/06/kemba-walkers-knee-injury-could-become-dicey-knicks-situation/

Good thing we got him only for 2 years

Berman doing Berman things. He always calls up a doctor to get a grim report when we acquire a player who has an injury history. That article is one of his go-to moves to create content.

[duetta]

Berman didn't write that story. The writer was someone named Joseph Staszewski (whom I've never heard of).

All we need is to be able to get 48 high-quality minutes out of our 4-5 point/combo guards. Between Walker, Rose, McBride, Quickley, and Luca, we should easily be able to get that.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

if he's healthy it's an obvious kemba>randle right?

It would completely insane to make Kemba our primary offensive option when his knee is so shakey. Some of you really need to temper your expectations on him, health is definitely a concern and a small guard with knee issues needs to have their offense scaled back to extend their longevity. We're not getting Hornets Kemba, you need to hope he can play 60-70 games and gives you good Celtic Kemba.

[thebuzzardman]

if he's healthy it's an obvious kemba>randle right?

It would completely insane to make Kemba our primary offensive option when his knee is so shakey. Some of you really need to temper your expectations on him, health is definitely a concern and a small guard with knee issues needs to have their offense scaled back to extend their longevity. We're not getting Hornets Kemba, you need to hope he can play 60-70 games and gives you good Celtic Kemba.

I'll "settle" for this:

Watch on YouTube

[3toheadmelo]

Kemba Walker joining Knicks with ‘dicey’ knee injury -



https://nypost.com/2021/08/06/kemba-walkers-knee-injury-could-become-dicey-knicks-situation/

Good thing we got him only for 2 years

Berman doing Berman things. He always calls up a doctor to get a grim report when we acquire a player who has an injury history. That article is one of his go-to moves to create content.

I don’t think that doctor is totally off though. Kemba does seem to keep getting hurt, and in the playoffs he didn’t look so good. We not getting prime Kemba. I’m cautiously optimistic

[Clyde_Style]

Kemba is not Mr. Right, he’s Mr. Right Now, a cheap date that can give you some filthy minutes without expecting night long domination. The Knicks assembled a backcourt by committee and subtracted Elfrid, so if Kemba goes down with injuries the team will continue to function

[HopelessKnick]

I don't think anybody is realitically banking on Kemba being the 2016 Charlotte formidable All-star player. Still, even at 80% of that, he'll be a huge upgrade over what the Knicks had in the last decade.


As for his knee: It is true that cartilage cannot be regrown etc. BUT there are still treatments that can be done and his condition can improve to some degree. Thibs now has two good veterans at the PG so there should be no excuse for overplaying them: Both their minutes should be kept in the 20s and they shouldn't play too many back to backs if at all. I'm fairly confident that they'll be very productive for us in the next two years. I read everything I can about Kemba's knee and there is really nothing out there that concerns me too much. Yes his knees likely are never going to be at 100% again, but they are not in a horrible condition where he is close to retirement. A lot of NBA players in their 30s have arthritic knee conditions--at least to some degree--and their are treatments to halt/slow down the progression and even improve somewhat. If manages properly, Kemba will be OK.

[NotDikembeSayNo]

Berman has clearly found his angle and he is running with it. It always fascinates me seeing what beat writers choose to make their thing because you know there is a motivation for it. Someone in the Kemba camp clearly did Berman wrong at some point in his career.

I don’t think it takes a goddamn MD to figure out that Kemba has knee problems that is going to limit what he can do from this point on in his career. Luckily he was signed for what amounts to pennies in this market for a starting point guard and as long as Rose can stay somewhat healthy, Quickley can step in and Deuce develops… he won’t need to carry the load that Dr Asshat says he won’t be able to carry anymore.

[Capn'O]

The ones you mention were also good moves

I don't know. I think Kidd was fine. I don't remember liking BD here, but any low cost move is generally no big deal and totally fine.

I think Kemba has more upside.

He definitely does.

Iirc Davis was a bit of a mess for most of the season and then got hurt right as he was getting his legs under him. I remember a few games of really good pg play.