MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 Vol.4 - Beasley Time

[Flash4thewin]

I doubt the Lowry tampering has any real legs. Miami's FO/owner would have had to have contact with Lowry or his agent about the trade for FA.

Lowry wanted to go to Miami(and a few other places) and let Toronto know that last season, Miami wanted Lowry and also Lowry's side floated out what he was looking in a contract in FA to resign with whichever team traded for him while he was still with Toronto before the trade deadline. It's completely feasible that Miami and Toronto agreed to the trade at the start of free agency and then walked through what each side would give/take while already knowing what each team's stance was since they talked about players for Lowry just a couple of months before that.

If Miami were to get in trouble for just players talking and nothing more, my god, the NBA would be stepping into something they can't control.

Last year Bogdan wasn't just in a trade he knew nothing about but his contract was set without him even knowing about it before free agency started, it's a completely different issue.

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Even if it does I doubt they will do anything about it. Although the league has burned us before.

I’m ok with the 10 mil dollar fine and the loss of two first round draft picks. The fine is just money and honestly if anything we would trade the picks anyway. That’s a better alternative than a repeat punishment for the same Mgt that was responsible for the Howard incident. To save the Heat we might be forced to part ways with Pat as a scapegoat.

[GopherIt!]

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fakkin OP at it again

[contract]

I doubt the Lowry tampering has any real legs. Miami's FO/owner would have had to have contact with Lowry or his agent about the trade for FA.

Lowry wanted to go to Miami(and a few other places) and let Toronto know that last season, Miami wanted Lowry and also Lowry's side floated out what he was looking in a contract in FA to resign with whichever team traded for him while he was still with Toronto before the trade deadline. It's completely feasible that Miami and Toronto agreed to the trade at the start of free agency and then walked through what each side would give/take while already knowing what each team's stance was since they talked about players for Lowry just a couple of months before that.

If Miami were to get in trouble for just players talking and nothing more, my god, the NBA would be stepping into something they can't control.

Last year Bogdan wasn't just in a trade he knew nothing about but his contract was set without him even knowing about it before free agency started, it's a completely different issue.

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Even if it does I doubt they will do anything about it. Although the league has burned us before.

I’m ok with the 10 mil dollar fine and the loss of two first round draft picks. The fine is just money and honestly if anything we would trade the picks anyway. That’s a better alternative than a repeat punishment for the same Mgt that was responsible for the Howard incident. To save the Heat we might be forced to part ways with Pat as a scapegoat.

I don't see that happening. Pat is an icon.

[eddieheatfan]

Even if it does I doubt they will do anything about it. Although the league has burned us before.

I’m ok with the 10 mil dollar fine and the loss of two first round draft picks. The fine is just money and honestly if anything we would trade the picks anyway. That’s a better alternative than a repeat punishment for the same Mgt that was responsible for the Howard incident. To save the Heat we might be forced to part ways with Pat as a scapegoat.

I don't see that happening. Pat is an icon.

so it was don shula until the fins gave him the boot, just saying

[Heat3]

I’m ok with the 10 mil dollar fine and the loss of two first round draft picks. The fine is just money and honestly if anything we would trade the picks anyway. That’s a better alternative than a repeat punishment for the same Mgt that was responsible for the Howard incident. To save the Heat we might be forced to part ways with Pat as a scapegoat.

I don't see that happening. Pat is an icon.

so it was don shula until the fins gave him the boot, just saying

That punishment doesn’t make sense especially considering the Howard stuff was 25 years ago.

And the Dolphins weren’t forced to part ways with Shula. So that isn’t comparable.

[Rapaz]

There’s an easy fix here that would work quite well for everyone (except one).

It would be a real shame if Eric Spoelstra’s phone turned up with incriminating texts to Kyle before 6:00 pm . . . .

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Looking back, it wasn't even Shula's fault.

Dan Marino was probably a chronic gambler and was throwing INT's on purpose to pay off debts (this what I heard)

[Bishop45]

Not necessarily a need, but if Reddick's going to be cheap-- we should be fighting as hard as we can to get him here and away from BN

[eddieheatfan]

Looking back, it wasn't even Shula's fault.

Dan Marino was probably a chronic gambler and was throwing INT's on purpose to pay off debts (this what I heard)

never heard of this about dan

[eddieheatfan]

Not necessarily a need, but if Reddick's going to be cheap-- we should be fighting as hard as we can to get him here and away from BN

how much space do the heat have left for extra personnel,that's why i dont want haslem to come as a player. as a sub-coach yes i have no problem with that. but the more deep this team gets the better season it should have since some of the players are older and could be tired or injured by march of next year.

again, a deep team shouldnt have to worry about this but the heat is not a deep team as construed

[Wiltside]

They can fine us whatever, just don’t take away what little draft capital we actually have lol

[Mk613]

I’ve been pretty hard on KZ but he is turning into something on the defensive perimeter. I think it’s up to Spo now to give him a little freedom on offense to take his man off the dribble from top of the key instead of being so robotic. I want to see a KZ looking to score at every chance in these Vegas games. We need to see this KZ more often.

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Sorry but the whole 3 and D has become ridiculous. I’d prefer my guy stepping in taking that easier two the chucking up 3’s. Mid range is a lost art and needs to come back..


1) a lot of this is the mental aspect. KZ plaed timid, like he's afarid Spo is going to pull him out with every miss/mistake. That's just bad on all levels.

2) I would go the other way - simplify the offense for KZ until the game slows down for him and he get more confidence. I'd make him a 3&D wing - tell to shot every time he's open, cut hard when he doesn't have the ball, and defend at a high level. I think he can hit enough 3's and be a lock down defender which is a good role to start with.

[dean456]

The tampering stuff makes no sense to me. We went through all the framework of the S&T at the trade deadline to the point where we even discussed what Kyle's next contract would be. It was pretty clear that this was going to be the outcome with Lowry months ago.

So now we could possibly be punished and lose draft capital if we had any contact with Lowry between then and now?... If we lose any draft picks over this that will be really terrible.

[oreon]

I doubt the Lowry tampering has any real legs. Miami's FO/owner would have had to have contact with Lowry or his agent about the trade for FA.

Lowry wanted to go to Miami(and a few other places) and let Toronto know that last season, Miami wanted Lowry and also Lowry's side floated out what he was looking in a contract in FA to resign with whichever team traded for him while he was still with Toronto before the trade deadline. It's completely feasible that Miami and Toronto agreed to the trade at the start of free agency and then walked through what each side would give/take while already knowing what each team's stance was since they talked about players for Lowry just a couple of months before that.

If Miami were to get in trouble for just players talking and nothing more, my god, the NBA would be stepping into something they can't control.

Last year Bogdan wasn't just in a trade he knew nothing about but his contract was set without him even knowing about it before free agency started, it's a completely different issue.

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Even if it does I doubt they will do anything about it. Although the league has burned us before.

I’m ok with the 10 mil dollar fine and the loss of two first round draft picks. The fine is just money and honestly if anything we would trade the picks anyway. That’s a better alternative than a repeat punishment for the same Mgt that was responsible for the Howard incident. To save the Heat we might be forced to part ways with Pat as a scapegoat.

If they go as far two first round picks, Riley needs to go to war. We are already strapped for picks as is with a team thats capped out. We need those picks to add talent.
I understand the league needs to save face but they can't be too harsh because facts is everyone is tampering. A fair punishment would be 2 mil and 2 second rounders. If it's more than that, then Riley should call a presser and call Adam Silver out on every deal that was done at 6:01 pm.

[carnageta]

Riley owns the mafia.

Watch Silver 'disappear' for the next 8 weeks into thin air.

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[DayofMourning]

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Cam is one of the baddest, smoothest mo fos to ever suck at organized basketball.

[Wiltside]

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Cam is one of the baddest, smoothest mo fos to ever suck at organized basketball.

DoM you used to froth on Reddish what happened breh?!

[DayofMourning]

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Cam is one of the baddest, smoothest mo fos to ever suck at organized basketball.

DoM you used to froth on Reddish what happened breh?!

It's whats happening between the ears, Wiltside. Some of these boys can't put their pants on in the morning. There's no cure for that. Cam is immensely talented, with a birds brain. Same with guys like Hassan and Beasley. Can't compute.

[Wiltside]

I think MWP mentioned it before, and yes I’m bias, but I wouldn’t mind us taking a look at Dante Exum as a backup guard and reclamation project.

He played very well for Australia in the Olympics and has a pretty versatile game. I feel his size would be useful off the bench, he’s solid defensively and would be a good fit alongside Herro in the backcourt.

He can hold the fort while Dipo is out, then revert to third string once he’s healthy.