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2021 Vegas Summer League: Orlando Magic vs. Houston Rockets - Game Thread

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Re: 2021 Vegas Summer League: Orlando Magic vs. Houston Rockets - Game Thread 

Post#121 » by Knightro » Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:59 am

Cole is a likable kid with an incredibly unlikable game.

Zeke has been heaping praise on Wagner all night btw.
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Re: 2021 Vegas Summer League: Orlando Magic vs. Houston Rockets - Game Thread 

Post#122 » by Knightro » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:00 am

I wonder if Cole will sit tomorrow and Hampton will play?
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Post#123 » by SOUL » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:01 am

Cole has the same issue as Fournier did, they both turn their back on half of the court. It's very easy to load up on if you know the guy is going to either drive a certain direction or throw it to the only people on that side of the court. Doesn't create for swing opportunities.
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Post#124 » by MagicFan101 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:03 am

basketballRob wrote:Cole's taken like 4 really bad shots while Wagner has been wide open on the perimeter.

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Wagner (and others) are going to shine brighter alongside a Fultz + Suggs backcourt.

UNC Cole really is the true Cole.

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Post#125 » by basketballRob » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:03 am

SOUL wrote:Cole has the same issue as Fournier did, they both turn their back on half of the court. It's very easy to load up on if you know the guy is going to either drive a certain direction or throw it to the only people on that side of the court. Doesn't create for swing opportunities.
Cole has looked right a Wagner several times and opted to take it to the basket and get embarrassed.

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Re: 2021 Vegas Summer League: Orlando Magic vs. Houston Rockets - Game Thread 

Post#126 » by CZ Eddie » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:06 am

CZ Eddie wrote:Who is #61? Or was it #62. The large/center or power forward looking black guy?
He has good awareness down around the basket.


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Re: 2021 Vegas Summer League: Orlando Magic vs. Houston Rockets - Game Thread 

Post#127 » by JTG_92940618 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:09 am

Both Cole and Wagner hadn't made many shots so far so it's good to see them both put up efficient games.

Cole's 5 turnovers are bad but at least he wasn't burned on defence this time.

I sort of feel having fewer of Suggs, RJ, Cole and Wagner out there helped. Previously we had too many guys who needed to show something and it didn't work out well. Today felt more natural.
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Re: 2021 Vegas Summer League: Orlando Magic vs. Houston Rockets - Game Thread 

Post#128 » by KillMonger » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:09 am

Cole has to figure out how to run the show or at least be a game manager....it can't always be that aggressive mentality if you're a lead guard...that part of the game hasn't come to him yet....damn you know what i'm thinking? maybe it might be worthwhile to bring in an IT...a vet scoring point guard that at one point was an MVP candidate, maybe he would be able to teach cole a thing or two about the balance between being a scoring guard and setting the table for others to eat...
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Post#129 » by basketballRob » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:12 am

KillMonger wrote:Cole has to figure out how to run the show or at least be a game manager....it can't always be that aggressive mentality if you're a lead guard...that part of the game hasn't come to him yet....damn you know what i'm thinking? maybe it might be worthwhile to bring in an IT...a vet scoring point guard that at one point was an MVP candidate, maybe he would be able to teach cole a thing or two about the balance between being a scoring guard and setting the table for others to eat...
We already have 5 point guards.

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Re: 2021 Vegas Summer League: Orlando Magic vs. Houston Rockets - Game Thread 

Post#130 » by bigdogdylan5 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:15 am

Knightro wrote:I wonder if Cole will sit tomorrow and Hampton will play?

That has to be the plan since it is a back to back.
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Post#131 » by KillMonger » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:17 am

basketballRob wrote:
KillMonger wrote:Cole has to figure out how to run the show or at least be a game manager....it can't always be that aggressive mentality if you're a lead guard...that part of the game hasn't come to him yet....damn you know what i'm thinking? maybe it might be worthwhile to bring in an IT...a vet scoring point guard that at one point was an MVP candidate, maybe he would be able to teach cole a thing or two about the balance between being a scoring guard and setting the table for others to eat...
We already have 5 point guards.

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Post#132 » by richi_v25 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:18 am

I only got to watch the ending of the 4th so all I got out of it was Cole is selfish, he drove into 5 rockets and later threw up a brick lol.
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Post#133 » by RookieStar » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:23 am

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basketballRob wrote:Cole's taken like 4 really bad shots while Wagner has been wide open on the perimeter.

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That is the right play to make....cole isn't about making the right play....he wants to be the guy to make the play


In other words, he wants to be Westbrook.
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Post#134 » by PrimeThyme » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:31 am

At this stage I’d say we’ve still yet to find Suggs longterm running mate in the backcourt. Our best hope for now is Fultz/Hampton.

We will just have to see how Fultz looks post knee injury.
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Post#135 » by VFX » Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:32 am

basketballRob wrote:
KillMonger wrote:Cole has to figure out how to run the show or at least be a game manager....it can't always be that aggressive mentality if you're a lead guard...that part of the game hasn't come to him yet....damn you know what i'm thinking? maybe it might be worthwhile to bring in an IT...a vet scoring point guard that at one point was an MVP candidate, maybe he would be able to teach cole a thing or two about the balance between being a scoring guard and setting the table for others to eat...
We already have 5 point guards.

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More like 2 & whatever mcw is considered.

Suggs should be a point, but probably won’t because Fultz needs to have a reason to exist on this roster.

Fultz and Cole are point guards. I don’t see them being as, or more, effective guarding 2’s. Cole can’t really run an offense either, so he’s arguably neither.

Hampton probably won’t run point the way the roster is currently constructed.

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