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Post#661 » by mpharris36 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:17 pm

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I thought if you don’t get a PM that your out of the race and would need to improve your bid.

It goes by the time changed?

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you get the first PM that you are winning the bid from bish. If you never get a PM that you are winning at anypoint you aren't leading.

But I was answering the question that if you got a PM first saying you were leading but then didn't get a PM the second time. That doesn't necessarily mean your bid got outbid. You would need to look at the FA list to see if the date of the player signed changed.


In my case, Bish told me I was outbid and I am not leading anymore. However, he did not tell me what is the new bid.
I would like to know if the bid was in the threshold range, he would have told me the new bid or not.

If you make a $30 offer (second round) and the leading bid is $40 (first round), Bish will tell you how much is the winning bid because it is in the threshold range.

But if the other way around, would he tell you the new bid? If somebody else makes a $40 bid in the second round outbidding your $30 winning bid from the first round, would he tell how much your opponent outbid you because is in the threshold range? If he did not tell me, can I assume the new bid was at last U$41?


To the best of my knowledge that is correct. I think the only players that you 100% know what your team needs to win a bid is Bird Rights FA regardless of thresholds.

So you can assume that if Bish told you that you were outbid from you leading bid in the 1st period but didn't give you a match price. That means someone went above your the threshold of that winning bid. Otherwise if they just went slightly above your leading bid within the threshold he would say you have been outbid and this is what you would have to do to beat the offer.
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Post#662 » by bishnykfan » Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:25 pm

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Post#663 » by bishnykfan » Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:26 pm

TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

The Miami Heat have agreed to trade Josh Christopher and DeAndre Bembry to the Atlanta Hawks in exchange for a 2024 2nd round draft pick (From Orlando).
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Post#664 » by bishnykfan » Sun Aug 22, 2021 6:27 pm

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Post#666 » by bishnykfan » Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:22 pm

Quickly, I have PM'd everyone who has sent in a bid. I only figure out the needed bid to beat if you are within the threshold.

There are a few other reasons you may not get that number though. If a team bids on 20 players and has the high bid on the first five before running out of either cap space or roster space, the remaining 15 players on your list will not get a return PM. Only players within the threshold, who you had a legal bid on that you didn't win will get an answer.

Also, your own Bird players will get a return PM. If you aren't sure of a player or think I missed something, it definitely wouldn't hurt to throw that player in the next bid though.
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Post#667 » by SOUL » Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:28 pm

bishnykfan wrote:Quickly, I have PM'd everyone who has sent in a bid.


For the 2nd bidding period right? Since 3rd one ends in an hour or so?
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Post#668 » by bishnykfan » Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:32 pm

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bishnykfan wrote:Quickly, I have PM'd everyone who has sent in a bid.


For the 2nd bidding period right? Since 3rd one ends in an hour or so?



I haven't PM'd anyone regarding the 3rd bidding period. It ends at 4:30PM.
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Post#669 » by bringbackhoffa » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:25 pm

5 mins until 3rd window is closed, time to extend one of these 9pm closings

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Post#670 » by 2010 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:42 pm

Anyone who loses out on a free agent and want to talk trade, I will be available for fluid discussions via PM.
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Post#671 » by 2010 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:57 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:5 mins until 3rd window is closed, time to extend one of these 9pm closings

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Hey bish, this is a clear tampering violation as per the rules of free agency and should be punishable by the terms stipulated in the spoiler:

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In respect to free agency- Once a player has a bid placed on them, no GM can mention them publicly in the discussion thread. Bringing up any players name or anything that can be used as an identifier of said player once he has a bid announced in the free agent thread will be prohibited and deemed as tampering. Once the player has signed his contract, then all discussion on that player can resume. This rule is meant to stop the manipulating of bids and tampering with free agent negotiations between player and team.


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1st offense- 48 hour suspension from discussion thread
2nd offense- 1 week suspension from discussion thread
3rd offense- 1 month suspension from discussion thread
4th offense- Forfeiture of lowest draft pick owned in the following years draft
5th offense- Forfeiture of highest draft pick owned in the following years draft
6th offense- 1 year suspension from Build a Franchise
7th offense- Expulsion from game

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Clearly Hoffa is soliciting bids on players identifiable by their time stamp indicating when they are due to sign.

That is clearly outlined as prohibited, as per the emboldened portion of the rule I posted.
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Post#672 » by 2010 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:59 pm

As per the above Hoffa has earned himself a 48 hour suspension from the discussion thread.

He also shouldn’t be allowed to place a bid during his suspension.
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Post#673 » by ribs » Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:00 pm

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Post#674 » by Smash3 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:02 pm

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bringbackhoffa wrote:5 mins until 3rd window is closed, time to extend one of these 9pm closings

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Hey bish, as per the rules this is a clear tampering violation as per the rules of free agency and should be punishable by the terms stipulated in the spoiler:

bishnykfan wrote:


In respect to free agency- Once a player has a bid placed on them, no GM can mention them publicly in the discussion thread. Bringing up any players name or anything that can be used as an identifier of said player once he has a bid announced in the free agent thread will be prohibited and deemed as tampering. Once the player has signed his contract, then all discussion on that player can resume. This rule is meant to stop the manipulating of bids and tampering with free agent negotiations between player and team.


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1st offense- 48 hour suspension from discussion thread
2nd offense- 1 week suspension from discussion thread
3rd offense- 1 month suspension from discussion thread
4th offense- Forfeiture of lowest draft pick owned in the following years draft
5th offense- Forfeiture of highest draft pick owned in the following years draft
6th offense- 1 year suspension from Build a Franchise
7th offense- Expulsion from game

Effective- 10/14/20


Clearly Hoffa is soliciting bids on players identifiable by their time stamp mark indicating when they are due to sign.

That is clearly outlined as prohibited as per the emboldened portion of the rule I posted.


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Post#675 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:07 pm

Yeah Hoffa is blatantly tampering (as usual) and breaking the rules. There has to be a penalty for that.
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Post#676 » by bringbackhoffa » Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:09 pm

I agree I messed up see you all in 48 hours

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Post#677 » by 2010 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:09 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Yeah Hoffa is blatantly tampering (as usual) and breaking the rules. There has to be a penalty for that.


Yeah. The ruling is pretty black and white. As outlined he must be suspended 48hrs.

Common sense indicates a player should not be able to place a bid during their suspension (or else it’s really not much of a punishment at all).

These types of shenanigans cannot be tolerated. It’s bad for our free agency process.
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Post#678 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:13 pm

2010 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:Yeah Hoffa is blatantly tampering (as usual) and breaking the rules. There has to be a penalty for that.


Yeah. The ruling is pretty black and white. As outlined he must be suspended 48hrs.

Common sense indicates a player should not be able to place a bid during their suspension (or else it’s really not much of a punishment at all).

These types of shenanigans cannot be tolerated. It’s bad for our free agency process.

Agreed. A suspension from the discussion thread for 48 hours is a very light punishment and will not stop him from tampering in the future. He should be suspended from placing bids for 48 hours instead.
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Post#679 » by 2010 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:13 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:I agree I messed up see you all in 48 hours

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He doesn’t really care as long as he can still place bids. He’s already done what he wanted to do. Bring attention to GMs who may be leading a bid in hopes he gets their bid topped. Clear tampering attempt!

I’m a broke ass GM with no cap space but what’s right is right and what’s wrong is wrong.

The suspension must include the inability to place a bid while barred or else it’s not much of a deterrent. He will do it again.
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Post#680 » by 2010 » Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:16 pm

Bish finna be ignoring Hoffa’s bids for 48hrs like…
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