ATL - 2021-22 Regular Season Begins

emunney · Post #41 » by **emunney** » Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:56 pm

raferfenix wrote:
What about Love? An NBA source told me the Cavs were making progress toward a buyout for Love, who has two years and $60 million left on his contract. The source admitted it could fall apart and it’s not close to a done deal.

https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2021/08/cavs-trading-larry-nance-jr-hard-to-accept-but-there-is-upside-terry-plutos-scribbles.html

Seems like everybody's penciling him into the Lakers roster. Can not wait to see him trying to guard Giannis if it goes down.

drdrG · Post #42 » by **drdrG** » Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:30 pm

emunney wrote:The big question with this trade of course is why the Cavs think Lauri is good. A stretch big who doesn't do any big man stuff is just a slow wing.

Cleveland figured the best person to mentor Markannen is Kevin Love. Now they've got two big guys that can shoot but wreck your defense and don't offer enough finishing or playmaking to actually build into a successful offense!

crowhead76 · Post #43 » by **crowhead76** » Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:19 pm

Portland trades for Nance Jr and in turn Cleveland buys out Love, does he also end up in Portland?

raferfenix · Post #44 » by **raferfenix** » Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:32 pm

emunney wrote:Seems like everybody's penciling him into the Lakers roster. Can not wait to see him trying to guard Giannis if it goes down.

Lineups with Love and Melo playing at the same time would be the lulz.

Baddy Chuck · Post #45 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:55 pm

Damn, that's a good pickup for Portland.

MVP2110 · Post #46 » by **MVP2110** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:06 am

Why wouldn't Chicago just keep Nance?

Jez2983 · Post #47 » by **Jez2983** » Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:17 am

MVP2110 wrote:Why wouldn't Chicago just keep Nance?

Not sure they are interested in defenders this season.

theFireBlanket · Post #48 » by **theFireBlanket** » Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:29 am

Fodder for DETROIT BASKETALL of the MILWAUKEE BUCKS flavor.

Spoiler:

Super (goon) squads will be disposed of by the new Superman & his Justice League.

Beorn · Post #49 » by **Beorn** » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:46 am

Bucknado wrote:Did Alex get a camp deal yet or is he headed back to Spain?

A Fella of mine from Spain told me the other day that UCAM is about to offload him.

MiltownHawkeye · Post #50 » by **MiltownHawkeye** » Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:51 pm

The Sixers should have just taken whatever they could get for Simmons before the draft and run. Teams knew the Sixers needed to trade him, the Sixers mistake was thinking anyone would buy their bluff that they'd keep him around and rehab his value. If there was anything he could do this season to actually recuperate value they wouldn't have shopped him so openly. Now Pompey's reporting he wants out and won't report to training camp.

Remember when Philly actually looked like their rebuild was ahead of ours? Trading for the privilege of overpaying Harris was the beginning of the end, not getting rid of Simmons before it was too late seems to be the death knell. Embiid + some decent role players will keep them in the playoffs and maybe some occasional home-court situations but otherwise I feel pretty confident saying they botched this.

SupremeHustle · Post #51 » by **SupremeHustle** » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:04 pm

Ben Simmons for Jamal Murray.

Ron Swanson · Post #52 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:51 pm

Simmons should have been traded for McCollum weeks ago. Again, Morey's delusional if he ever thought keeping him on the roster heading into training camp was gonna be anything but an absolute cluster **** of a situation. Now, he's dragged his feet to the point where it's become the worst case scenario where his value is gonna tank even further.

You love to see it.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #53 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:52 pm

Hope Cleveland holds strong on Love. If he wants to go home and play for the Lakers, fine....walk away from that contract. There's 2 years left on it.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #54 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:54 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Simmons should have been traded for McCollum weeks ago. Again, Morey's delusional if he ever thought keeping him on the roster heading into training camp was gonna be anything but an absolute cluster **** of a situation. Now, he's dragged his feet to the point where it's become the worst case scenario where his value is gonna tank even further.

You love to see it.

IDK, The Rodgers thing was cluster and now everything will be fine once he is on the field. Have him come back, play great regular season ball like he does and then trade him. Doubt he actually sits out.

Ron Swanson · Post #55 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:59 pm

Matt LeFleuer and Davante Adams didn't publicly body-bag Rodgers in their post-season pressers. There's no situation where Simmons comes back to that locker room that doesn't turn toxic. He's done as a Sixer and everyone but Daryl Morey seems to understand that.

raferfenix · Post #56 » by **raferfenix** » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:16 pm

Morey messed up so bad not trading Simmons for Harden or whoever else he could have gotten last offseason.

This is also why Rivers and Embiid blew it by throwing a teammate under the bus. Even if he deserved it it's self-destructive.

But on the other hand, if Simmons really has the cajones to try and dictate terms about going to a 'California team' after chocking as badly as he did down the stretch, I hope the Sixers find an excuse to send him somewhere he'll despise.

“Think about three months ago when the Sixers are willing to give up Ben Simmons. You are like, ‘Let’s see what we have to do to get him,’” said a Western Conference executive, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “Now, the difference is Ben Simmons says he refuses to play for the Sixers. He wants to go to three California teams. There’s so much bad blood between him and the team.”

The executive said teams are not willing to give in to the Sixers’ steep asking price knowing they have to move Simmons.

“The kid said he’s not going back,” the executive said. “I’m not giving you what you’re demanding. They really messed this up.”

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/263981/Ben-Simmons-Wants-Trade-From-76ers-Doesnt-Plan-On-Reporting-To-Camp

raferfenix · Post #57 » by **raferfenix** » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:36 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Simmons should have been traded for McCollum weeks ago. Again, Morey's delusional if he ever thought keeping him on the roster heading into training camp was gonna be anything but an absolute cluster **** of a situation. Now, he's dragged his feet to the point where it's become the worst case scenario where his value is gonna tank even further.

You love to see it.

I wonder whether the Nance trade was a shot across the bow to Philly about their interest level in Simmons -- especially if Morey is intending to insist on future picks in addition to McCollum.

Jez2983 · Post #58 » by **Jez2983** » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:02 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Matt LeFleuer and Davante Adams didn't publicly body-bag Rodgers in their post-season pressers. There's no situation where Simmons comes back to that locker room that doesn't turn toxic. He's done as a Sixer and everyone but Daryl Morey seems to understand that.

Yeah Simmons is quite principled when it comes to having a tantrum. He isn't reporting.

Baddy Chuck · Post #59 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:48 pm

The fact that Philly and Houston didn't do a Simmons/Harden swap is mindblowing.

RiotPunch · Post #60 » by **RiotPunch** » Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:55 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:The fact that Philly and Houston didn't do a Simmons/Harden swap is mindblowing.

Vengeance clouds judgement.