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Post#121 » by Andi Obst » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:11 pm

MGB8 wrote:Millsap would fit really nicely. He's not as switchable as we might like at this point in his career, but he's a bull and would provide necessary veteran leadership, along with productive bench minutes, at both the 4 and in some situations at the 5.

I think the add would be really good for the lockerroom.


Definitely true, nobody should expect prime Millsap. But the fact that John Henson, DeAndre Jordan, Meyers Leonard AND MICHAEL BEASLEY have now been mentioned in this thread already gives you an idea of the kind of bigs who are still available. Millsap is easily the best of the group.
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Post#122 » by Evil_Headband » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:14 pm

How about a sign and trade for the Theis TPE. Bulls could give Denver back their 2nd rounder for the trouble. The extra money plus the vacancy at backup PF might be enough to keep him away from the contenders.
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Post#123 » by StunnerKO » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:17 pm

BahamaBull wrote:all in for Meyers Leonard too...

Dude was solid for the Heat a couple years ago...A very good backup plan if Vuc goes down with an injury. Local kid.

Bring him home AK!

Naw leave that idiot off a roster
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Post#124 » by Andi Obst » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:18 pm

Evil_Headband wrote:How about a sign and trade for the Theis TPE. Bulls could give Denver back their 2nd rounder for the trouble. The extra money plus the vacancy at backup PF might be enough to keep him away from the contenders.


If the Nets really want him, they have the Dinwiddie TPE to work with. Their team is insanely expensive as it is and Millsap would cost them much more than whatever his salary would be, but it doesn't seem like they care very much. A DeAndre Jordan buyout, which seems imminent, would also open a roster spot.
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Post#125 » by RSP83 » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:27 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/263970/Paul-Millsap-Receiving-Interest-From-Nets-Warriors-Bulls-Clippers

Bulls among the team interested. Millsap would fit in nicely in that PJ Brown / Antonio Davis vet big role.

Also what about Juancho Hernangomez? He's a solid backup 4.
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Post#126 » by StunnerKO » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:57 pm

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Post#127 » by Evil_Headband » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:03 pm

Three years seems like too long even if the third year wasn’t fully guaranteed.
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Post#128 » by jStuNNa » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:04 pm

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It would take the Theis TPE to get Milsap, right? I know he's 36, but he still seems valued around the league. Paying Milsap $5M seems fair... But IDK about a 3 year deal.

Is that 3 full years? Or can there be a team option for the 3rd year?
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Post#129 » by Evil_Headband » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:12 pm

Bulls got Sato in a sign and trade with the 3rd year partially guaranteed. They could at least do that.
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Post#130 » by MGB8 » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:24 pm

RSP83 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/263970/Paul-Millsap-Receiving-Interest-From-Nets-Warriors-Bulls-Clippers

Bulls among the team interested. Millsap would fit in nicely in that PJ Brown / Antonio Davis vet big role.

Also what about Juancho Hernangomez? He's a solid backup 4.


Hernangomez seems to by a rhythm player who struggles when he isn't starting. He didn't do well last year, but was a much better player when starting. Extended minutes helped, too, but that can also be a "is he hot or not" issue.

The biggest issue with Juan would be that he's a net negative defensive player so, if even when he's playing well on offense (which isn't at all consistent, and last year was more no than yes) - you kind of suffer on the defensive end about as much as you get. Though he did have a positive plus minus (basic) with the Wolves last season per 82 games (they were worse without him than the basic bad level they were with him).

Might be worth a look. Certainly more a combo forward than Simonovic, who reminds me physically of Vucevic when he came into the league (although not as bounce - yes, Vuc was bouncy) - and who I think will end up at Center, not the 4.

Edit: positive plus minus per br, too... but looking at 82games 5man lineup success, seems he did best with McDaniels or Vanderbilt at the "3" next to him (meaning he was manning the 3 and they just have them listed wrong) - he did his best when paired with a defender to take the better assignment. Bulls couldn't offer that too him much. Maybe when Pat is still in, slid to the 3 when DD is out... but I think that's going to be pretty limited.
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Post#131 » by MGB8 » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:45 pm

It will be interesting to see who Millsap ends up with. I'm sure money is a partial consideration, but we're not talking huge differences.

Nets would be the best bet for a ring, followed by (IMO) Warriors and Clippers (in that order, assuming Klay is healthy, which is a big if), followed much further down by the Bulls (no realistic shot at a ring but lightening could strike...).

OTOH, I think with the Bulls he'd have the most clear and consistent role / minutes with the Bulls. Nets have Durant at the 4 and probably Blake Griffin starting at the 5, with Nic Claxton expected to get a lot of minutes, James Johnson signed to be the backup 4 (and may get time at the 5), and DeAndre Jordan unless he is released / bought out. Also their first rounder Day'Ron Sharpe.

Warriors have Draymond, Looney, signed Bjelica and Otto Porter as stretch guys, Toscano Anderson as a 6'6 wing who they have play some 4 (and who I think was an absolute steal of a resign) along with Wiseman at the 5 as a developing young guy and Kuminga at the 4. Also Iggy who they may use as a small-ball 4.

Clippers have Marcus Morris and Nic Batum who they use at the 4 and Ibaka and Zubac at the 5, and added Winslow (small-ball 4).

Only the Bulls have a clear opening for a big who would play a decent amount of minutes even without injuries or DNP-rests. So if that's what Millsap values... Bulls should be where he picks.
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Post#132 » by jStuNNa » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:55 pm

Evil_Headband wrote:Bulls got Sato in a sign and trade with the 3rd year partially guaranteed. They could at least do that.


I think you do it then if you're the Bulls... So long as it doesn't have any significant impact on your ability to re-sign Zach.

Milsap has stayed in really good shape. You can make the argument that outside of the natural wear and tear of all the years he's played, his body and fitness level are on par with most at the PF position. I can see his body holding up for two or three more years.

The one ingredient the Bulls are missing is a big-time vet. By big-time, I don't mean a superstar. I mean a vet that has tremendous respect throughout the league, knows how to play at the highest level, and will be an elite leader on and off the floor. That's Paul Milsap. On top of that, he's still a contributor on the court and fill basically every need the Bulls have at the backup PF position.
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Post#133 » by Grodoboldo » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:55 pm

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@TheRealC_Los: Besides interest in Paul Millsap, ive heard #Bulls have touch base with multiple minimum salary candidates. Noah Vonleh, Patrick Patterson, & Mike Scott have been some names ive heard through back channels. 1 name i haven't heard connected to CHI yet is Demarcus Cousins however. https://t.co/kkJYbfdxxS

Yeah, I also appreciate not going after Boogie. Unfortunately, I don't think there's anything left in the tank for him.
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Post#134 » by BahamaBull » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:05 pm

Grodoboldo wrote:
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@TheRealC_Los: Besides interest in Paul Millsap, ive heard #Bulls have touch base with multiple minimum salary candidates. Noah Vonleh, Patrick Patterson, & Mike Scott have been some names ive heard through back channels. 1 name i haven't heard connected to CHI yet is Demarcus Cousins however. https://t.co/kkJYbfdxxS

Yeah, I also appreciate not going after Boogie. Unfortunately, I don't think there's anything left in the tank for him.


This Carlos Douglas Jr is full of ****.

Dont believe anything coming from him.
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Post#135 » by FriedRise » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:06 pm

Would LOVE to get Millsap for the TPE since he's a big body who will fill a huge hole at the backup 4/5 spot. He WILL get consistent minutes in Chicago vs going to some of these other teams.

At 36, he's probably looking for a longer deal so if we offer that, we'll easily be in the lead. But I can't see AKMEJJ offering a 3-year deal, especially after seeing the type of contracts they offered players to fill similar backup positions:

Bradley: 2 years
Green: 2 years
Picking DJJ's expiring over Nance Jr

Other than a better shot at the chip, what can Brooklyn or GSW realistically offer?
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Post#136 » by Grodoboldo » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:13 pm

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Grodoboldo wrote:
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@TheRealC_Los: Besides interest in Paul Millsap, ive heard #Bulls have touch base with multiple minimum salary candidates. Noah Vonleh, Patrick Patterson, & Mike Scott have been some names ive heard through back channels. 1 name i haven't heard connected to CHI yet is Demarcus Cousins however. https://t.co/kkJYbfdxxS

Yeah, I also appreciate not going after Boogie. Unfortunately, I don't think there's anything left in the tank for him.


This Carlos Douglas Jr is full of ****.

Dont believe anything coming from him.


Just like most of Twitter, lol. But I get what you say, I take it with a huge grain of salt.
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Post#137 » by madvillian » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:18 pm

I'd rather just sign Vonleh than give Milsap three years, even partially guaranteed. I like Milsap but not for more than as a one year rental. Vonleh has a little upside IMO as well.
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Post#138 » by sco » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:21 pm

madvillian wrote:I'd rather just sign Vonleh than give Milsap three years, even partially guaranteed. I like Milsap but not for more than as a one year rental. Vonleh has a little upside IMO as well.

I'm with you. On that note, can we use BAE for a 2 year deal? Not sure if that works with Milsap, but that may be ok.

I think Vonleh has more 4/5 positional flexibility than Milsap.
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Post#139 » by TheFinishSniper » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:21 pm

BahamaBull wrote:all in for Meyers Leonard too...

Dude was solid for the Heat a couple years ago...A very good backup plan if Vuc goes down with an injury. Local kid.

Bring him home AK!

This.best candidate by mile. Nothing wrong with him except that story. And stories dont play basketball. So no care. I watched too many Nice good guys who are terrible or slow in Bulls uniform.
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Post#140 » by holv03 » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:26 pm

Millsap to the Bulls could be our next move. Bulls will most likely use the BAE on him instead of making a sign and trade. Vanderbilt is another player we could target specially in a sign and trade.

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