Corbin Burnes case for the Cy Young. That was published last week, before Saturday's game.
The tl;dr version is that he's having a historic (think Pedro in '99) season on a per innings basis. His FIP of 1.50 puts him up there with the best of all-time. His fWAR now puts him comfortably ahead of anyone else in the NL:
1 - 7.1 Burnes
2 - 6.5 Wheeler
3 - 4.7 Scherzer
4 - 4.6 Buehler
Just gonna watch this on repeat for the next five days.
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I agree but I think Scherzer gets it because he's a Dodger. We'll see how the last few starts play out. 19 games left, probably 4 starts.
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Corbin Burnes is on a historic season, he's not only breaking Brewers records, he's also setting MLB records.
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If yesterday's no-hitter is the last game of the season, Burnes would be the Brewers franchise leader in these various stats:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIL/leaders_pitch_season.shtml
Earned Run Average
1. Corbin Burnes • 2021 - 2.25
2. Mike Caldwell • 1978 - 2.36
3. Teddy Higuera • 1988 - 2.45
4. Brandon Woodruff • 2021 - 2.48
5. Ben Sheets • 2004 - 2.70
Walks & Hits per IP
1. Corbin Burnes • 2021 - 0.914
2. Brandon Woodruff • 2021 - 0.967
3. Ben Sheets • 2004 - 0.983
4. Brandon Woodruff • 2020 - 0.991
5. Teddy Higuera • 1988 - 0.999
Strikeouts per 9 IP
1. Corbin Burnes • 2021 - 12.434
2. Brandon Woodruff • 2020 - 11.118
3. Zack Greinke • 2011 - 10.538
4. Brandon Woodruff • 2021 - 10.524
5. Jimmy Nelson • 2017 - 10.215
Home Runs per 9 IP
1. Corbin Burnes • 2021 - 0.296
2. Mike Caldwell • 1978 - 0.430
3. Jim Slaton • 1976 - 0.431
4. Lary Sorensen • 1978 - 0.449
5. Jerry Augustine • 1976 - 0.472
Adjusted ERA+
1. Corbin Burnes • 2021 - 188
2. Brandon Woodruff • 2021 - 170
3. Teddy Higuera • 1988 - 162
Ben Sheets • 2004 - 162
5. Mike Caldwell • 1978 - 160
Fielding Independent Pitching
1. Corbin Burnes • 2021 - 1.50
2. Ben Sheets • 2004 - 2.65
3. Teddy Higuera • 198 - 2.80
4. Chris Bosio • 1989 - 2.87
5. Mike Caldwell • 1978 - 2.94
https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIL/leaders_pitch_season.shtml
Earned Run Average
1. Corbin Burnes • 2021 - 2.25
2. Mike Caldwell • 1978 - 2.36
3. Teddy Higuera • 1988 - 2.45
4. Brandon Woodruff • 2021 - 2.48
5. Ben Sheets • 2004 - 2.70
Walks & Hits per IP
1. Corbin Burnes • 2021 - 0.914
2. Brandon Woodruff • 2021 - 0.967
3. Ben Sheets • 2004 - 0.983
4. Brandon Woodruff • 2020 - 0.991
5. Teddy Higuera • 1988 - 0.999
Strikeouts per 9 IP
1. Corbin Burnes • 2021 - 12.434
2. Brandon Woodruff • 2020 - 11.118
3. Zack Greinke • 2011 - 10.538
4. Brandon Woodruff • 2021 - 10.524
5. Jimmy Nelson • 2017 - 10.215
Home Runs per 9 IP
1. Corbin Burnes • 2021 - 0.296
2. Mike Caldwell • 1978 - 0.430
3. Jim Slaton • 1976 - 0.431
4. Lary Sorensen • 1978 - 0.449
5. Jerry Augustine • 1976 - 0.472
Adjusted ERA+
1. Corbin Burnes • 2021 - 188
2. Brandon Woodruff • 2021 - 170
3. Teddy Higuera • 1988 - 162
Ben Sheets • 2004 - 162
5. Mike Caldwell • 1978 - 160
Fielding Independent Pitching
1. Corbin Burnes • 2021 - 1.50
2. Ben Sheets • 2004 - 2.65
3. Teddy Higuera • 198 - 2.80
4. Chris Bosio • 1989 - 2.87
5. Mike Caldwell • 1978 - 2.94
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MickeyDavis wrote:I agree but I think Scherzer gets it because he's a Dodger. We'll see how the last few starts play out. 19 games left, probably 4 starts.
If Scherzer gets it, barring a collapse by others and him going on a hot streak, it'd be a crime. He doesn't have a single argument. He hasn't even been LA most of the season. Wheeler's probably the only one I'd buy at this point because of the innings differential.
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Random aside, what happened in 2019 when he was basically unplayable? I can't really remember off the top of my head other than not being able to control anything.
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BUCKnation wrote:Random aside, what happened in 2019 when he was basically unplayable? I can't really remember off the top of my head other than not being able to control anything.
He threw his fastball 57% of the time in 2019, cutter 0% (he didn't have one). Now he throws his four seamer 11% of the time and his cutter 52% of the time (and harder than his FB back in 2019). Mixes in a change he didn't have back then too.
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ReasonablySober wrote:MickeyDavis wrote:I agree but I think Scherzer gets it because he's a Dodger. We'll see how the last few starts play out. 19 games left, probably 4 starts.
If Scherzer gets it, barring a collapse by others and him going on a hot streak, it'd be a crime. He doesn't have a single argument. He hasn't even been LA most of the season. Wheeler's probably the only one I'd buy at this point because of the innings differential.
Yea and of course Max is perfect through seven a few hours after I put this into existence.