cl2117 wrote:The stupidity of the anti-vax is staggering. How can none of you get through your head that your unvaccinated status affects even the vaccinated?
It's so simple. It's so basic. Yet you just can't get it through your head. It's hard to not read these posts and not get frustrated:
jmr07019 wrote:On the other hand the pro vax crowd is quite illogical. You have the vaccine, you're protected, what are you worried about? Simultaneously praising the vaccine for it's effectiveness while being afraid of the unvaxxed is illogical.
How do you read this and not say it's stupid? That's not name calling. It's just the truth.
And when that stupidity is actively leading to people dying, how can you possibly stay civil?
You go to lengths to try to explain common misconceptions about the above in very simple and clear terms and using indisputable scientific evidence and people just let it completely wash over them as they continue to contribute to what is effectively a global holocaust. And no, I do not use that word lightly.
I'll try one last time.
The vaccine protects you, but is not 100% coverage. You are still at risk of getting it, although your symptoms should be milder. That being said if you've got co morbidities, you could still be very much at risk of serious effects.
Furthermore, the more the virus spreads, the more likely it is to mutate (see: Delta variant). These mutations can be stronger/more transmissible and the vaccines we have developed might be less effective against the variants. That last part means that allowing the virus to continue to mutate might mean that the vaccine isn't nearly as protective as it was against a previous variant.
All of the above is why it's very important that everyone gets vaccinated. It is safe and effective. It works better with larger percentages of the population taking it up. Every leader of the free world has been vaccinated, this should speak to it's safety.
Please people educate yourselves before you contribute to the deaths of those around you. It is your moral obligation to educate yourselves and to get vaccinated. To not do so is abhorrent.
Phenomenal post!
As you have read, I have posted the same stuff innumerable times (supported by links to the best peer reviewed publications on the planet).
And I got nowhere fast with our recalcitrant, uninformed, willfully ignorant subgroup.
And then yesterday I literally **** exploded with frustration & went into attack mode - and, in response, was called a wannabe Nazi & a slaveholder. SMMFH.
I plan to tone it down & revert to science only posts - directed at the smart, thoughtful & responsible members of our board.
Did you see Fencer’s truly beautiful & incredibly astute posts above?
As an extremely insightful (albeit non-medical) individual, he hit the nail on the **** head regarding 2 of the most common misconceptions amongst the ‘willfully ignorant and/or dumb as rocks” uninformed. He expressed himself in a way that maybe just maybe will influence just 1 or 2 of the “deluded horde”.
I vote his 2 posts last night (edited a little bit by me) as the best posts in this thread.
(You are my hero, Fencer [at least for today - LOL]).
BTW, folks, cl is a critical care doc who has had many Covid patients die right in front of him.
This Board is very fortunate to have him take time out of his insanely busy days providing those interested with the truth about Covid medicine. Thank you, cl.
(And of course, you are very lucky to have me as well. LOL. I have more time on my hands these days than cl, & I have been reading more original Covid publications recently than my Endocrinology journals.)
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