Bears talk 2.0; Fields era begins for real for real

[Bulls69]

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This clown is going to get this kid hurt.

[dougthonus]

I don't think the Bears play calling was great, but this was a good defense and a rookie QB that has a lot to learn that caused most of the problems. Fields had opportunities he missed and took a lot of bad sacks. Hope he looks over the game film and learns a lot from it.

Nagy, to me, is probably a run of the mill head coach when I look at the outcomes he's achieved with this team over the past few years he's been here. I've never sat down and went "wow the Bears should have won four more games this year" nor do I stop and think "Nagy will outcoach those guys!".

He's fine. I'm okay if they can him tomorrow, but it isn't going to be the panacea that many anti-Nagy people hope it is. There's probably a 50% chance you bring in someone worse next anyway. His time has probably come, I doubt he'll be here after this year, and that's also ok, 50% chance you do better next time too and sometimes even if someone was solid, you just need a new voice.

[TheStig]

Nagy’s issues precede the issues with the offensive line. His excuses are done. He’s his behind Mitch for 3 seasons. I’ll be damned if he’s about to hide behind the Oline now. No more for this clown.

His issues? He made the playoffs 2 out of 3 years and has a winning record without a real QB the whole time. What were your expectations for these teams? I'd say he's met or exceed expectations that you could have with the talent. I'm not saying he's great but looking back, what more did you expect from this team?

He is on his second highly-touted quarterback

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Really? Looking back at Mitch, you still want to call him out as a plus? And Fields has played 1.5 games.

[Dresden]

If that wasn't the worst debut by a Bears QB, I'd like to know what was....

[Dresden]

I don't think the Bears play calling was great, but this was a good defense and a rookie QB that has a lot to learn that caused most of the problems. Fields had opportunities he missed and took a lot of bad sacks. Hope he looks over the game film and learns a lot from it.

Nagy, to me, is probably a run of the mill head coach when I look at the outcomes he's achieved with this team over the past few years he's been here. I've never sat down and went "wow the Bears should have won four more games this year" nor do I stop and think "Nagy will outcoach those guys!".

He's fine. I'm okay if they can him tomorrow, but it isn't going to be the panacea that many anti-Nagy people hope it is. There's probably a 50% chance you bring in someone worse next anyway. His time has probably come, I doubt he'll be here after this year, and that's also ok, 50% chance you do better next time too and sometimes even if someone was solid, you just need a new voice.

I agree with this. People always want a scapegoat- first it was Dalton, then the O line, now the coach. I would put the blame on the GM more than anything- the talent level on this team is below average, at least on the offensive side of the ball. The defense was supposed to be excellent and be able to carry the team= turns out it's pretty average.

That's not to say Nagy couldn't do better, or that the O line is good. The Bears have not had a good O line since the last time they went to the Super Bowl. It's been a problem for years, and that is a big failure by the FO. Like Doug said, if we replace Nagy, we might do better, we might not. The problems on the team are mainly the talent level, from what I can see. We just don't have great players, and that points to the GM.

[fleet]

I don't think the Bears play calling was great, but this was a good defense and a rookie QB that has a lot to learn that caused most of the problems. Fields had opportunities he missed and took a lot of bad sacks. Hope he looks over the game film and learns a lot from it.

Nagy, to me, is probably a run of the mill head coach when I look at the outcomes he's achieved with this team over the past few years he's been here. I've never sat down and went "wow the Bears should have won four more games this year" nor do I stop and think "Nagy will outcoach those guys!".

He's fine. I'm okay if they can him tomorrow, but it isn't going to be the panacea that many anti-Nagy people hope it is. There's probably a 50% chance you bring in someone worse next anyway. His time has probably come, I doubt he'll be here after this year, and that's also ok, 50% chance you do better next time too and sometimes even if someone was solid, you just need a new voice.

Doubtful a new coach can come in and do anything much better mid season with this personnel. It doesn’t mean you don’t make a move on Nagy. It wont happen regardless, Pace can’t fire Nagy without indicting himself on some level. The only way out is to play better. Good luck.

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

I don't think the Bears play calling was great, but this was a good defense and a rookie QB that has a lot to learn that caused most of the problems. Fields had opportunities he missed and took a lot of bad sacks. Hope he looks over the game film and learns a lot from it.

Nagy, to me, is probably a run of the mill head coach when I look at the outcomes he's achieved with this team over the past few years he's been here. I've never sat down and went "wow the Bears should have won four more games this year" nor do I stop and think "Nagy will outcoach those guys!".

He's fine. I'm okay if they can him tomorrow, but it isn't going to be the panacea that many anti-Nagy people hope it is. There's probably a 50% chance you bring in someone worse next anyway. His time has probably come, I doubt he'll be here after this year, and that's also ok, 50% chance you do better next time too and sometimes even if someone was solid, you just need a new voice.

I agree with this. People always want a scapegoat- first it was Dalton, then the O line, now the coach. I would put the blame on the GM more than anything- the talent level on this team is below average, at least on the offensive side of the ball. The defense was supposed to be excellent and be able to carry the team= turns out it's pretty average.

That's not to say Nagy couldn't do better, or that the O line is good. The Bears have not had a good O line since the last time they went to the Super Bowl. It's been a problem for years, and that is a big failure by the FO. Like Doug said, if we replace Nagy, we might do better, we might not. The problems on the team are mainly the talent level, from what I can see. We just don't have great players, and that points to the GM.

Now is coach? Now? Where you been my friend?

[Susan]

Nagy is 100% an offensive head coach. He has been buoyed by Fangio, the talent on the defensive side of the ball and it appears by Dasai. If he had a bad defense from the get go and the offensive performance that he's presided over in the past few seasons, he would have been let go after last year or maybe even after year two.

He's a fraud, thankfully it appears Dasai is legit. A lot of the wasted money on this team is because Nagy's constantly saying x,y or z isn't good enough to run "his system".

Get us a legit high level offensive mind Daboll or my favorite Joe Brady from Carolina and keep Dasai + the defensive scheme.

[sco]

Wow...our season over by week 3. Tank for next year's best QB?

[dougthonus]

Doubtful a new coach can come in and do anything much better mid season with this personnel. It doesn’t mean you don’t make a move on Nagy. It wont happen regardless, Pace can’t fire Nagy without indicting himself on some level. The only way out is to play better. Good luck.

Yeah, unless the locker room turns way against him, you have to wait until the off-season. That's the only scenario I'd probably fire him midseason. Football is too complicated to try and bring in a new playbook/system midseason and benefit, so you are rolling with what Nagy installed either way. If there is a mutiny, can him and raise an assistant as interim. Otherwise, you have to ride it out.

[Stratmaster]

Doubtful a new coach can come in and do anything much better mid season with this personnel. It doesn’t mean you don’t make a move on Nagy. It wont happen regardless, Pace can’t fire Nagy without indicting himself on some level. The only way out is to play better. Good luck.

Yeah, unless the locker room turns way against him, you have to wait until the off-season. That's the only scenario I'd probably fire him midseason. Football is too complicated to try and bring in a new playbook/system midseason and benefit, so you are rolling with what Nagy installed either way. If there is a mutiny, can him and raise an assistant as interim. Otherwise, you have to ride it out.

yep you install Lazor as interim coach

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[Chicago-Bull-E]

Wow...our season over by week 3. Tank for next year's best QB?

They don’t have a 1st next year.

[dice]

the bright side is that maybe this season gets both nagy and pace fired. i thought that fields developing nicely and respectable team play would at least buy pace more time

[dice]

If that wasn't the worst debut by a Bears QB, I'd like to know what was....

in 2012 cutler got injured. in jason campbell's starting debut he went 14/22 for 107 yards, 1 TD and 2 INT and was sacked 6 times against a great D in san fran

it's a contender, anyway

[dice]

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This clown is going to get this kid hurt.

it was nagy that was trying to keep fields OFF the field. he can't do much about the O-line that pretty boy is responsible for

[dice]

As much as I want Pace and Nagy gone, nothing will change as long as ownership remains static. As long as the wrinkled up McCaskey's have a say, I see little changing in the Bears culture. The problems stem from the top. I'll take brand new ownership over a brand new stadium any day...just get the McCaskey's out of here!

Gof bless you for saying that

what is wrong with the bears culture and when did the problem develop?

[dice]

Bears have some white dude named Hunt in the game?

they were hoping that he was the other hunt's kryptonite

[Lexluthor]

This qb class looks bad so far . The real winner is Trey Lance

[dice]

patriots called 57 pass plays and 11 run plays today. jones wasn't nearly good enough to justify it. trevor lawrence had another mediocre day as well. and zach wilson was again bad. rough year for rookie QBs

was watching an old episode of curb your enthusiasm today. episode was about a friend of larry's who committed suicide because of the futility of the NY jets. then i switched to the rams/bucs game and they immediately showed larry david in a luxury suite ("that's larry david, a huge jets fan"). really weird

[Dominator83]

Wow...our season over by week 3. Tank for next year's best QB?

They don’t have a 1st next year.

Exactly. We're like the Brooklyn Nets pre-KD. Tanking for another team.

Usually they're good enough to be just mediocre and draft in the middle. Of course when they're accidently bad when another team will get to reap the benefits