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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1201 » by ankle420breaker » Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:57 pm

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Not me - I'm happy for Ben to get some away time to work on things like - FT's and Right Handed Shooting, any niggling injury's and especially to Detox all the Toxicity he's been dealing with.

My guess is he has a date in mind on when he may be prepared to return if Morey won't Trade him.
Just don't expect to much actual Playing if he does show up.


Yea, if only he had time to work on that this offseason, or the previous 6 offseasons (+ broken foot year). It's like asking a teacher to postpone the test after having 5 months to prepared with no new material added to the course.


Ben was on court training as hard as anyone this offseason , now all his NBA training partners are back with their teams he can concentrate on individual skills.
Exactly. His entire career he's been selfishly demanded to show up to work. This organization has no regard for his individual skill space.

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1202 » by Negrodamus » Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:59 pm

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Sixersftw wrote:Well they both don't care about basketball but one of them is also very bad at half court basketball.


I also think it would cost picks or Maxey, so I'm not eager.


I can’t imagine it would be more than one for one. Ben is young and will play right now while Kyrie is questionable to play at all. It’s a huge risk from both sides, but Harden and Durant aren’t spring chickens.

It’s all probably moot since Durant doesn’t want him traded, so he is probably the final say.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1203 » by Negrodamus » Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:02 pm

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Not me - I'm happy for Ben to get some away time to work on things like - FT's and Right Handed Shooting, any niggling injury's and especially to Detox all the Toxicity he's been dealing with.

My guess is he has a date in mind on when he may be prepared to return if Morey won't Trade him.
Just don't expect to much actual Playing if he does show up.


Yea, if only he had time to work on that this offseason, or the previous 6 offseasons (+ broken foot year). It's like asking a teacher to postpone the test after having 5 months to prepared with no new material added to the course.


Ben was on court training as hard as anyone this offseason , now all his NBA training partners are back with their teams he can concentrate on individual skills.


Probably a silly question, but why doesn’t he just work on individual skills since he has the distribution skills already refined? All of this is speculation anyway. We don’t really know what he did this summer aside from Instagram clips that last a minute at most.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1204 » by spikeslovechild » Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:03 pm

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Kwame refers to many NBAers faking injuries if they dont want to report. While this is hardly surprising, can anybody guess which players he is referring to?


I actually typed out a post about this and deleted it because I figured, "Ahh nobody cares" ... I can't speak to people faking injuries in the NBA ... although several teammates called out Albert Haynesworth of the NFL for faking injuries before. But as far as Ben Simmons, I think this is a real, actual risk - he can use this to his advantage *absolutely* ... I used the example of back injuries and didn't even remember he has a history of them ... I myself have had major back surgery before I turned 30. I blew my knee wrestling in HS several times, had major surgery (done by the then-Flyers team Doctor/surgeon! at CHoP!) - and it really was never the same. I spent the next decade+++ ruining my back trying to protect my knee. I was lucky that WHEN my back went, it was identifiable and verifiable ... and now with my surgery, as soon as I tell people what I had done to me, they're like, "OHHH..." - in my general area of NJ back before I moved to FL, I regularly had people say -"OH *YOU'RE* that guy!!!" ... but a huge percentage of back injuries are not diagnosable or unverifiable but certainly, the people are in real pain. All he has to do is play ONE GAME, step on the court, a little while later (particularly after *doing* something) awkwardly wince and hold his back...

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OHHH IT HURTS IT HURTS IT'S A DEEP DEEP PAIN, OHHHH NOOO, ALL IS LOST!!!

And Kwame is right ... with a Doctor saying "OH NO HE'S SERIOUSLY HURT, HE CAN'T PLAY!!!" in the short term, he's getting paid. In the medium term, he's fighting about it and getting paid. In the long term, he almost certainly gets paid until he's traded. I think that IF he does this, he might actually put other teams off him... but there's always someone who says "Oh he just is doing what he's gotta do... he can come play for us no problem!"

It's a fascinating situation all around. I went from being one of his biggest "fans" and defenders to just wondering how someone who is a 7ft tall All-NBA world-class athlete can literally be the new definition of "punk biatch" ... And contrary to his pity party, this is *NO ONE'S FAULT BUT HIS OWN* ... he wants to be part of LeBron and Paul's Player Empowerment Movement - with certain undertones I need not mention - he can have it. Enjoy ruining your reputation for life. I am not sure what that absolute *genius* jersey-salesperson Agent of yours is telling you - in most of the world, you don't get paid if you don't go to work. You can Kardashian yourself all you want, decide you're an Influencer , whatever. But you don't get your basketball pay check if you refuse to play basketball...


Actually one thing that him staying away from TC does is it prevents that scenario. Teams don't have to pay salary for players who sustain injuries away from team facilities and it's hard to say he got injured working out at the Sixers facility when he refuses to show.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1205 » by 76ciology » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:14 pm

Read on Twitter


Imagine you believed that Butler was shipped not because of Ben

*not me. Always believed it was because of Ben

Last..

I really believe Maxey’s emergence plays a role with Ben. There’s no way Ben got offended with what the team said unless he only reads headlines.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1206 » by XtremeDunkz » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:29 pm

It was only a matter of time. Embiid wasn't gonna stay quiet when his name and his teammates are getting dragged by Bens camp. What a POS.

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1207 » by KramerDSP » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:32 pm

Get him, Joel!
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1208 » by Negrodamus » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:34 pm

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Imagine you believed that Butler was shipped not because of Ben

*not me. Always believed it was because of Ben

Last..

I really believe Maxey’s emergence plays a role with Ben. There’s no way Ben got offended with what the team said unless he only reads headlines.


Yep, my post about Curry being a Simmons SG is exactly in line with this. This team catered to him so much, he bails, and now we're left with a weird team to fit his needs. We should have never bet on a PF who wants to be PG and refuses to improve. It's crazy.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1209 » by Rastas » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:37 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Rastas wrote:
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Yea, if only he had time to work on that this offseason, or the previous 6 offseasons (+ broken foot year). It's like asking a teacher to postpone the test after having 5 months to prepared with no new material added to the course.


Ben was on court training as hard as anyone this offseason , now all his NBA training partners are back with their teams he can concentrate on individual skills.


Probably a silly question, but why doesn’t he just work on individual skills since he has the distribution skills already refined? All of this is speculation anyway. We don’t really know what he did this summer aside from Instagram clips that last a minute at most.


Literally hours and hours of him training with other stars all offseason - posted by the training centre not Ben.
Either stay lazy or do some homework.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1210 » by Mik317 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:41 pm

Rastas wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Rastas wrote:
Ben was on court training as hard as anyone this offseason , now all his NBA training partners are back with their teams he can concentrate on individual skills.


Probably a silly question, but why doesn’t he just work on individual skills since he has the distribution skills already refined? All of this is speculation anyway. We don’t really know what he did this summer aside from Instagram clips that last a minute at most.


Literally hours and hours of him training with other stars all offseason - posted by the training centre not Ben.
Either stay lazy or do some homework.

the same clips get posted every year and yet he comes back the same player on offense.

no one is buying it any more. Until that guy plays like that on a NBA floor who gives a ****?

I mean we have Andre Drummond summer highlights of him looking like a giant Magic Johnson...doesn't mean he is going to be doing that here (oh lord I hope not lol)
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1211 » by snoopdogg88 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:50 pm

That ringer article was very eye opening and I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about it.

Morey is pretty much leaking that Ben won’t tell them face to face a concrete reason why he wants out. Which is extremely telling. This is why Klutch keeps leaking all these different nonsense reasons every other day to the media.

Because he’s a coward who’s afraid to admit out loud he isn’t going to work on his game. He doesn’t want to deal with the inevitable boos and resentment the fans will have. He wants out because he wants an easier situation period. So just throw everyone else under the bus.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1212 » by Rastas » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:54 pm

Mik317 wrote:
Rastas wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Probably a silly question, but why doesn’t he just work on individual skills since he has the distribution skills already refined? All of this is speculation anyway. We don’t really know what he did this summer aside from Instagram clips that last a minute at most.


Literally hours and hours of him training with other stars all offseason - posted by the training centre not Ben.
Either stay lazy or do some homework.

the same clips get posted every year and yet he comes back the same player on offense.

no one is buying it any more. Until that guy plays like that on a NBA floor who gives a ****?

I mean we have Andre Drummond summer highlights of him looking like a giant Magic Johnson...doesn't mean he is going to be doing that here (oh lord I hope not lol)


He comes back the same because his role is the same.
Ben's still waiting for a play to be drawn up for him.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1213 » by Mik317 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:59 pm

Rastas wrote:
Mik317 wrote:
Rastas wrote:
Literally hours and hours of him training with other stars all offseason - posted by the training centre not Ben.
Either stay lazy or do some homework.

the same clips get posted every year and yet he comes back the same player on offense.

no one is buying it any more. Until that guy plays like that on a NBA floor who gives a ****?

I mean we have Andre Drummond summer highlights of him looking like a giant Magic Johnson...doesn't mean he is going to be doing that here (oh lord I hope not lol)


He comes back the same because his role is the same.
Ben's still waiting for a play to be drawn up for him.


bull

you don't need plays run for you to take open shots. Or to attack the rim.

Maxey didn't have plays run for him either and he made things happen.

He has the ball in his hands...he controls things.

Stop absolving him of any blame. Its just as bad as those who blame him for everything. He is not the only reason we lost. Biid's TOs; Tobias turning back into a pumpkin; Doc going full Doc and Morey not doing **** anything all play a major role....but this idea that if only things were made easier for Ben is the solution is just **** dumb. Everything has been for his benefit. And he has not shown any willingness to even step slightly out of his wheelhouse and here we are talking about plays being run for him? Are you serious?
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1214 » by UnFadeable21 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:59 pm

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1215 » by Stanford » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:01 pm

(Joel is right)
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1216 » by Negrodamus » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:05 pm

Rastas wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Rastas wrote:
Ben was on court training as hard as anyone this offseason , now all his NBA training partners are back with their teams he can concentrate on individual skills.


Probably a silly question, but why doesn’t he just work on individual skills since he has the distribution skills already refined? All of this is speculation anyway. We don’t really know what he did this summer aside from Instagram clips that last a minute at most.


Literally hours and hours of him training with other stars all offseason - posted by the training centre not Ben.
Either stay lazy or do some homework.
Chris Johnson puts out the vids.


Lol, I’ll “stay lazy” if this is considered work.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1217 » by Sixersftw » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:11 pm

My God-Emperor has spoken.

For real though, Jo is starting to air them family (not so)secrets with the Jimmy stuff. Could, somehow, get even messier.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1218 » by Eyeamok » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:22 pm

Don't do it Joe you are going to hurt his feelings even more. :D

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1219 » by 76thBearCub » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:36 pm

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V 

Post#1220 » by GoSixersBro » Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:01 pm

Sixersftw wrote:My God-Emperor has spoken.

For real though, Jo is starting to air them family (not so)secrets with the Jimmy stuff. Could, somehow, get even messier.


IIRC Jimmy did say that one day the truth (of the 2019 offseason) will get out.
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