jazzfan1971 wrote:Yeah, I can't imagine the refs will keep this up for long.
I don't like the foul hunting and I would have sent Curry to the line there.
That shouldn't be a defensive foul at any level of basketball.
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jazzfan1971 wrote:Yeah, I can't imagine the refs will keep this up for long.
I don't like the foul hunting and I would have sent Curry to the line there.
Young Stapler wrote:Completely off topic but SUPERVILLAIN got a crazy post/And1 ratio O_O
Just an observation. Carry on
FlyingArrow wrote:I dunno. On the 2nd one, glad that wasn't a defensive foul, but seems like it should be a no-call. It's kind of like a blocking foul on the guy with the ball. But at the same time, the dribbler was fast enough to get in front of him. Still, offensive foul is better than defensive foul on that play so at least it's an improvement.
queridiculo wrote:FlyingArrow wrote:I dunno. On the 2nd one, glad that wasn't a defensive foul, but seems like it should be a no-call. It's kind of like a blocking foul on the guy with the ball. But at the same time, the dribbler was fast enough to get in front of him. Still, offensive foul is better than defensive foul on that play so at least it's an improvement.
I kind of agree and disagree at the same time.
The contact seems marginal, but the offensive player gains an advantage for his team by not allowing the defender to get back in transition.
To me that's the correct call because it's not a natural basketball move at that part of the court and no different than what the NBA is trying to accomplish on offense with freedom of movement.
Although we are talking about the ball handler here, this seems akin to a moving pick.
naabzor wrote:This does not make any sense. The guy with the ball is entitled to get everywhere on the court if it is not charging someone that has position so he can just put his body in front of the defender, there is no way it is an offensive foul. So when PGs blow past the defender and put them behind them, in "jail" as they said, that is now a foul? It is a pretty common move everyone is doing for the past 10 years and now it is a foul?
Young Stapler wrote:Completely off topic but SUPERVILLAIN got a crazy post/And1 ratio O_O
Just an observation. Carry on
dhsilv2 wrote:
wtf? What was unnatural about Harden's first shot? Unless he hooked him and I missed it due to angle. Otherwise that's not what the new rule is about.
The second one, glad that wasn't a defensive foul but....that seems like an obvious no call.
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evilpimp972 wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:SUPERVILLAIN wrote:1
wtf? What was unnatural about Harden's first shot? Unless he hooked him and I missed it due to angle. Otherwise that's not what the new rule is about.
The second one, glad that wasn't a defensive foul but....that seems like an obvious no call.
He clearly tried to create contact, which is part of the new rule
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dhsilv2 wrote:evilpimp972 wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:
wtf? What was unnatural about Harden's first shot? Unless he hooked him and I missed it due to angle. Otherwise that's not what the new rule is about.
The second one, glad that wasn't a defensive foul but....that seems like an obvious no call.
He clearly tried to create contact, which is part of the new rule
He took a shot while someone was MAKING contact. At least from what I see it looks like he's driving, the guy has an arm or hand or something on Harden, so he pulls up. Can a defender now just make contact to prevent a shot because it's unnatural to pull up when you're being fouled?
KingDavid wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:evilpimp972 wrote:He clearly tried to create contact, which is part of the new rule
He took a shot while someone was MAKING contact. At least from what I see it looks like he's driving, the guy has an arm or hand or something on Harden, so he pulls up. Can a defender now just make contact to prevent a shot because it's unnatural to pull up when you're being fouled?
You just described handchecking. Interesting.