Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6

[Rastas]

:banghead: So this dude is going to be a distraction regardless

That's the plan

[phillynative]

Gut feeling is that he’s not that type

Immature, naive, misguided, entitled, spoiled etc I can definitely see but if he truly doesn’t care about people on the team then he wouldn’t be helping Maxey etc with their game in the offseason plus there’s the ego

Far more likely that he freezes at the ft line than chucks the ball into the crowd IMO

Maxey is not a person on the team to Ben. He's a Klutch client. Literally the only reason he didn't ghost him this offseason like he did everyone else on the roster and front office.

Simmons didn’t ghost anyone

Imagine being paid 30 million per year and the coach & GM can’t pick the phone up

It’s laughable

Little wonder those dipshits can’t secure a trade

What makes you think Doc and Morey didn't "pick the phone up" to get in contact with Ben. There have already been reports of Ben preferring to communicate through Rich Paul instead. I thought that was made obvious he wasnt communicating directly with anyone from the sixers org.

[thenbaman]

Gut feeling is that he’s not that type

Immature, naive, misguided, entitled, spoiled etc I can definitely see but if he truly doesn’t care about people on the team then he wouldn’t be helping Maxey etc with their game in the offseason plus there’s the ego

Far more likely that he freezes at the ft line than chucks the ball into the crowd IMO

Maxey is not a person on the team to Ben. He's a Klutch client. Literally the only reason he didn't ghost him this offseason like he did everyone else on the roster and front office.

Simmons didn’t ghost anyone

Imagine being paid 30 million per year and the coach & GM can’t pick the phone up

It’s laughable

Little wonder those dipshits can’t secure a trade

[NYSixersFan]

Ben is allergic to all types of shots

[Eyeamok]

I wonder how much of this situation has penetrated Ben Simmons psyche.

He stinks in the playoffs.
The teams he wants to play for don't want him.
In his mind he is a superstar yet no other team really wants to make a superstar offer for him.
His agent had a plan to get him out of Philly and yet here he is reporting back to Philly.
His team said Ben was willing to sit out an entire season. Yet he gets fined and miss a couple of check and here he is back unannounced.
He loses money he won't recoup because of bad advice from his agent and team.
All around him players with less talent are improving offensively and he is not.
Yes Ben you have all the accolades and you are a defensive wiz. But the market for you talent is small. Do you ever wonder why?

I doubt this guy is ever going to wake up and realize that he is his own biggest problem. Even when he gets traded, he will still carry his ego around with him. So I doubt he will ever get out of his own way. You would think the playoffs, the summer and your trade request would be a wake up call to him. But probably not.

[Philly's Best]

Ben is allergic to all types of shots

[Eyeamok]

Question: If Elton Brand was still in "control" would Ben have been traded by now. I use quotes because it was really GM by committee.

Question 2: Do you really think the 76ers are going to allow Ben to play in the first home game if he is eligible? I say no way in hell.
Keep that fan heat off of him for as long as possible.

[Sixerscan]

Maxey is not a person on the team to Ben. He's a Klutch client. Literally the only reason he didn't ghost him this offseason like he did everyone else on the roster and front office.

Simmons didn’t ghost anyone

Imagine being paid 30 million per year and the coach & GM can’t pick the phone up

It’s laughable

Little wonder those dipshits can’t secure a trade

Alternative Facts

[Samson]

Alternative Facts

Not to get political here- far from it - but I just wanted to explain this because many people don't actually realize that Kellyanne Conway, the woman who was mercilessly mocked for saying "Alternative Facts" was actually dead right.

Alternative Facts is a legal doctrine and she's a lawyer, and I think it was dbag Chuck Todd who said something like "that just means they're 'falsehoolds" - 101% incorrect. To make a quick example- let's say someone is in court for DUI and serious personal &/ property damage or something like that. His lawyer might make the case for bail and be saying "Your Honor, my client is married mother of 3 who owns her own business in town, is involved in multiple church, social, and business groups, and has never been convicted of any violent crimes nor missed a court date... She's not a flight risk!" === shall we say, "one set of facts" ... the Prosecutor may respond, "Yes, Your Honor, but she has 2 prior DUI convictions, she killed 2 people in the accident, destroyed 3 vehicles, and was apprehended attempting to flee the scene..." === "alternative facts" ... In fact both sets are true, they just paint completely different pictures. I believe this was involving the Trump's inauguration crowd size...and Sean looool Spicer was pretty much ordered by Trump to constantly say it was not just huge, it was the hugest ever. I am *not* defending Spicer (dbag) and certainly not Trump - he seemed to have a mental condition where whenever anyone points out something bad or negative about him, he instantly responds with, "Not me, YOU, in fact you're the WORST and I'm the best!" ... tell him his hair is ugly, he responds "No it's not, yours is ugly! I have the best hair in the world and you have the worst hair in the world! My hair is perfect! Perfect! Like my Ukraine call! Perfect!" -- but when Conway used the Alternative Facts term, she was blasted despite being dead right. Alternative Facts are not "falsehoods" (another term they loved to use during Trump's term. 'Falsehood' is defined as : the state of being untrue. - so is that like a lie, only worse? or not quite a bad but you still don't like it? ) ... I just felt like it was completely unfair for the media to pretty much destroy her on the 2nd day on the job, when she was right and they were totally wrong. Rant over , allow us to continue discussing Ben Simmons falsehoods.

[Sixerscan]

Alternative Facts

Not to get political here- far from it - but I just wanted to explain this because many people don't actually realize that Kellyanne Conway, the woman who was mercilessly mocked for saying "Alternative Facts" was actually dead right.

Alternative Facts is a legal doctrine and she's a lawyer, and I think it was dbag Chuck Todd who said something like "that just means they're 'falsehoolds" - 101% incorrect. To make a quick example- let's say someone is in court for DUI and serious personal &/ property damage or something like that. His lawyer might make the case for bail and be saying "Your Honor, my client is married mother of 3 who owns her own business in town, is involved in multiple church, social, and business groups, and has never been convicted of any violent crimes nor missed a court date... She's not a flight risk!" === shall we say, "one set of facts" ... the Prosecutor may respond, "Yes, Your Honor, but she has 2 prior DUI convictions, she killed 2 people in the accident, destroyed 3 vehicles, and was apprehended attempting to flee the scene..." === "alternative facts" ... In fact both sets are true, they just paint completely different pictures. I believe this was involving the Trump's inauguration crowd size...and Sean looool Spicer was pretty much ordered by Trump to constantly say it was not just huge, it was the hugest ever. I am *not* defending Spicer (dbag) and certainly not Trump - he seemed to have a mental condition where whenever anyone points out something bad or negative about him, he instantly responds with, "Not me, YOU, in fact you're the WORST and I'm the best!" ... tell him his hair is ugly, he responds "No it's not, yours is ugly! I have the best hair in the world and you have the worst hair in the world! My hair is perfect! Perfect! Like my Ukraine call! Perfect!" -- but when Conway used the Alternative Facts term, she was blasted despite being dead right. Alternative Facts are not "falsehoods" (another term they loved to use during Trump's term. 'Falsehood' is defined as : the state of being untrue. - so is that like a lie, only worse? or not quite a bad but you still don't like it? ) ... I just felt like it was completely unfair for the media to pretty much destroy her on the 2nd day on the job, when she was right and they were totally wrong. Rant over , allow us to continue discussing Ben Simmons falsehoods.

Not gonna get into the Spicer thing (he said some falsehoods along with some "alternative facts", and then Conway tried to gaslight by roping everything under the latter), but the fact that Ben Simmons talked to Maxey during the summer and that Doc didn't literally call Ben during the summer seems like it fits into your definition of "Alternative Facts". Both of those things may be technically true but are misleading/not dispositive.

In terms of court and "legal doctrines", sure people can present alternative cases but if you present a "fact" that is misleading or irrelevant or a multitude of other reasons a judge can rule that it is not allowed to be said to or considered by a jury. Or the jury can hear it and let it wash off their backs because they recognize it doesn't matter.

[jotachase]

Alternative Facts

Not to get political here- far from it - but I just wanted to explain this because many people don't actually realize that Kellyanne Conway, the woman who was mercilessly mocked for saying "Alternative Facts" was actually dead right.

Alternative Facts is a legal doctrine and she's a lawyer, and I think it was dbag Chuck Todd who said something like "that just means they're 'falsehoolds" - 101% incorrect. To make a quick example- let's say someone is in court for DUI and serious personal &/ property damage or something like that. His lawyer might make the case for bail and be saying "Your Honor, my client is married mother of 3 who owns her own business in town, is involved in multiple church, social, and business groups, and has never been convicted of any violent crimes nor missed a court date... She's not a flight risk!" === shall we say, "one set of facts" ... the Prosecutor may respond, "Yes, Your Honor, but she has 2 prior DUI convictions, she killed 2 people in the accident, destroyed 3 vehicles, and was apprehended attempting to flee the scene..." === "alternative facts" ... In fact both sets are true, they just paint completely different pictures. I believe this was involving the Trump's inauguration crowd size...and Sean looool Spicer was pretty much ordered by Trump to constantly say it was not just huge, it was the hugest ever. I am *not* defending Spicer (dbag) and certainly not Trump - he seemed to have a mental condition where whenever anyone points out something bad or negative about him, he instantly responds with, "Not me, YOU, in fact you're the WORST and I'm the best!" ... tell him his hair is ugly, he responds "No it's not, yours is ugly! I have the best hair in the world and you have the worst hair in the world! My hair is perfect! Perfect! Like my Ukraine call! Perfect!" -- but when Conway used the Alternative Facts term, she was blasted despite being dead right. Alternative Facts are not "falsehoods" (another term they loved to use during Trump's term. 'Falsehood' is defined as : the state of being untrue. - so is that like a lie, only worse? or not quite a bad but you still don't like it? ) ... I just felt like it was completely unfair for the media to pretty much destroy her on the 2nd day on the job, when she was right and they were totally wrong. Rant over , allow us to continue discussing Ben Simmons falsehoods.

lmao

[NYSixersFan]

Alternative Facts

Not to get political here- far from it - but I just wanted to explain this because many people don't actually realize that Kellyanne Conway, the woman who was mercilessly mocked for saying "Alternative Facts" was actually dead right.

Alternative Facts is a legal doctrine and she's a lawyer, and I think it was dbag Chuck Todd who said something like "that just means they're 'falsehoolds" - 101% incorrect. To make a quick example- let's say someone is in court for DUI and serious personal &/ property damage or something like that. His lawyer might make the case for bail and be saying "Your Honor, my client is married mother of 3 who owns her own business in town, is involved in multiple church, social, and business groups, and has never been convicted of any violent crimes nor missed a court date... She's not a flight risk!" === shall we say, "one set of facts" ... the Prosecutor may respond, "Yes, Your Honor, but she has 2 prior DUI convictions, she killed 2 people in the accident, destroyed 3 vehicles, and was apprehended attempting to flee the scene..." === "alternative facts" ... In fact both sets are true, they just paint completely different pictures. I believe this was involving the Trump's inauguration crowd size...and Sean looool Spicer was pretty much ordered by Trump to constantly say it was not just huge, it was the hugest ever. I am *not* defending Spicer (dbag) and certainly not Trump - he seemed to have a mental condition where whenever anyone points out something bad or negative about him, he instantly responds with, "Not me, YOU, in fact you're the WORST and I'm the best!" ... tell him his hair is ugly, he responds "No it's not, yours is ugly! I have the best hair in the world and you have the worst hair in the world! My hair is perfect! Perfect! Like my Ukraine call! Perfect!" -- but when Conway used the Alternative Facts term, she was blasted despite being dead right. Alternative Facts are not "falsehoods" (another term they loved to use during Trump's term. 'Falsehood' is defined as : the state of being untrue. - so is that like a lie, only worse? or not quite a bad but you still don't like it? ) ... I just felt like it was completely unfair for the media to pretty much destroy her on the 2nd day on the job, when she was right and they were totally wrong. Rant over , allow us to continue discussing Ben Simmons falsehoods.

The media was wrong? WHAT?....that can't be true

[jbk1234]

Alternative Facts

Not to get political here- far from it - but I just wanted to explain this because many people don't actually realize that Kellyanne Conway, the woman who was mercilessly mocked for saying "Alternative Facts" was actually dead right.

Alternative Facts is a legal doctrine and she's a lawyer, and I think it was dbag Chuck Todd who said something like "that just means they're 'falsehoolds" - 101% incorrect. To make a quick example- let's say someone is in court for DUI and serious personal &/ property damage or something like that. His lawyer might make the case for bail and be saying "Your Honor, my client is married mother of 3 who owns her own business in town, is involved in multiple church, social, and business groups, and has never been convicted of any violent crimes nor missed a court date... She's not a flight risk!" === shall we say, "one set of facts" ... the Prosecutor may respond, "Yes, Your Honor, but she has 2 prior DUI convictions, she killed 2 people in the accident, destroyed 3 vehicles, and was apprehended attempting to flee the scene..." === "alternative facts" ... In fact both sets are true, they just paint completely different pictures. I believe this was involving the Trump's inauguration crowd size...and Sean looool Spicer was pretty much ordered by Trump to constantly say it was not just huge, it was the hugest ever. I am *not* defending Spicer (dbag) and certainly not Trump - he seemed to have a mental condition where whenever anyone points out something bad or negative about him, he instantly responds with, "Not me, YOU, in fact you're the WORST and I'm the best!" ... tell him his hair is ugly, he responds "No it's not, yours is ugly! I have the best hair in the world and you have the worst hair in the world! My hair is perfect! Perfect! Like my Ukraine call! Perfect!" -- but when Conway used the Alternative Facts term, she was blasted despite being dead right. Alternative Facts are not "falsehoods" (another term they loved to use during Trump's term. 'Falsehood' is defined as : the state of being untrue. - so is that like a lie, only worse? or not quite a bad but you still don't like it? ) ... I just felt like it was completely unfair for the media to pretty much destroy her on the 2nd day on the job, when she was right and they were totally wrong. Rant over , allow us to continue discussing Ben Simmons falsehoods.

What Spicer said was objectively false. He didn't say Trump had more enthusiastic people attend his inauguration, e.g., an opinion, he said there were more people than at any other inauguration, a demonstrably false statement. He said more people took public transit in D.C. than at any other time. This too was simply false. He said Trump won more electoral votes than any other Republican candidate. Again, simply false.

He didn't do what you're claiming he did. He simply made a bunch of untrue statements because he was ordered to by a guy with a really fragile ego.

[Zumramania]

Gut feeling is that he’s not that type

Immature, naive, misguided, entitled, spoiled etc I can definitely see but if he truly doesn’t care about people on the team then he wouldn’t be helping Maxey etc with their game in the offseason plus there’s the ego

Far more likely that he freezes at the ft line than chucks the ball into the crowd IMO

Maxey is not a person on the team to Ben. He's a Klutch client. Literally the only reason he didn't ghost him this offseason like he did everyone else on the roster and front office.

Simmons didn’t ghost anyone

Imagine being paid 30 million per year and the coach & GM can’t pick the phone up

It’s laughable

Little wonder those dipshits can’t secure a trade

[Stanford]

Maxey is not a person on the team to Ben. He's a Klutch client. Literally the only reason he didn't ghost him this offseason like he did everyone else on the roster and front office.

Simmons didn’t ghost anyone

Imagine being paid 30 million per year and the coach & GM can’t pick the phone up

It’s laughable

Little wonder those dipshits can’t secure a trade

[Negrodamus]

When was it reported that Doc and Morey haven't reached out to Ben? I thought there was multiple attempts to get in touch with him by many in the organization and he refused, opting to go through his agent?

Also, I don't even understand why anyone is shilling for Ben this hard. This is weirder than the Colangelo burner accounts.

[KramerDSP]

I wonder how much of this situation has penetrated Ben Simmons psyche.

He stinks in the playoffs.
The teams he wants to play for don't want him.
In his mind he is a superstar yet no other team really wants to make a superstar offer for him.
His agent had a plan to get him out of Philly and yet here he is reporting back to Philly.
His team said Ben was willing to sit out an entire season. Yet he gets fined and miss a couple of check and here he is back unannounced.
He loses money he won't recoup because of bad advice from his agent and team.
All around him players with less talent are improving offensively and he is not.
Yes Ben you have all the accolades and you are a defensive wiz. But the market for you talent is small. Do you ever wonder why?

I doubt this guy is ever going to wake up and realize that he is his own biggest problem. Even when he gets traded, he will still carry his ego around with him. So I doubt he will ever get out of his own way. You would think the playoffs, the summer and your trade request would be a wake up call to him. But probably not.

On top of all that, he is also having to deal with a really ugly family situation. I truly believe that if he isn't and won't receive counseling support through the help of a sports psychologist, he will continue to have performance-related issues (shooting free throws, being aggressive and *wanting* to be fouled, etc).

[Sixerscan]

When was it reported that Doc and Morey haven't reached out to Ben? I thought there was multiple attempts to get in touch with him by many in the organization and he refused, opting to go through his agent?

Also, I don't even understand why anyone is shilling for Ben this hard. This is weirder than the Colangelo burner accounts.

I assume he either made it up or it's something silly like it's only been reported that they communicated with him through Klutch and didn't literally call Ben's cell phone number.

[Hipster Doofus]

Trade him when the first good deal comes along. A GM will bite sooner or later - it's the NBA; there's always a sucker or two.

Don't get suckered in to feeling bad for him somehow, or blaming the city or the fans. It's nonsense.

Benny boy is only reporting back to Philadelphia because of money. He held out for as long as he could when money wasn't a factor yet, just waiting and hoping to be traded before money became a factor. Now that he's losing money, he's back. Not out of the volition of his heart; no, it's all about the mula.

I hope we trade this clown soon.

[the_process]

It says in the WT the Sixers are engaged with 9 known teams and a 10th "mystery team".

They then proceed to only list 8 teams.

CLE, HOU, TOR, POR, SAS, DET, MIN, IND.

I assume Sacramento is the 9th. The mystery team, assuming they exist, is probably Washington, but could be Chicago.