ImageImageImage

The Preseason. All of it.

Moderators: HartfordWhalers, BullyKing, sixers hoops, Foshan, Sixerscan

User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 66,041
And1: 26,993
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#661 » by 76ciology » Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:53 am

blargh wrote:
76ciology wrote:
blargh wrote:I don’t think either Shaq Harrison or Aaron Henry are worth keeping around, either as a developmental prospect or a deep reserve. Harrison makes Thybulle look like an offensive genius. Henry is an older, less promising version of Springer- he’s a couple inches taller, but he doesn’t play like it. Would have preferred to give Petrusev our two way.


The way I see it..

We dont have another good ball handler after Maxey, thus Shaq Harrison

We dont have that big wing defender, thus Aaron Henry

If not Shaq Harrison or Aaron Henry, I think we need a 6’7 tall with large wingspan 3&D guy and a capable PG who can bring down the ball, shoot, can run some 2 man game and play some defense

I dont see the need to activate or get another big. Im quite happy with Drummond, and Im willing to let Paul Reed get some experience


I don’t see Shaq as a better ball handler than Milton, Korkmaz, or even Joe. I haven’t seen any indication that Henry can guard: it’s probably a safer assumption that a rookie can’t guard.

We don’t really have the roster spot for the guy you’re describing we need, but if we did need somebody to check most of those boxes, I’d sign James Ennis again. Really what we need from our two way though is just a developmental project with some interesting upside. I don’t think Henry or Shaq have that.


Yup, i also dont see it in them right now but i see the rationale for why we signed then for. And im totally open in finding better replacements
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 66,041
And1: 26,993
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#662 » by 76ciology » Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:36 am

There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
DCasey91
General Manager
Posts: 9,535
And1: 5,775
Joined: Dec 15, 2020
   

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#663 » by DCasey91 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:37 am

76ciology wrote:
blargh wrote:
76ciology wrote:
The way I see it..

We dont have another good ball handler after Maxey, thus Shaq Harrison

We dont have that big wing defender, thus Aaron Henry

If not Shaq Harrison or Aaron Henry, I think we need a 6’7 tall with large wingspan 3&D guy and a capable PG who can bring down the ball, shoot, can run some 2 man game and play some defense

I dont see the need to activate or get another big. Im quite happy with Drummond, and Im willing to let Paul Reed get some experience


I don’t see Shaq as a better ball handler than Milton, Korkmaz, or even Joe. I haven’t seen any indication that Henry can guard: it’s probably a safer assumption that a rookie can’t guard.

We don’t really have the roster spot for the guy you’re describing we need, but if we did need somebody to check most of those boxes, I’d sign James Ennis again. Really what we need from our two way though is just a developmental project with some interesting upside. I don’t think Henry or Shaq have that.


Yup, i also dont see it in them right now but i see the rationale for why we signed then for. And im totally open in finding better replacements


Otto Porter Jr is looking very ominous all pre-season.

Sucks he ain’t on a contender but he’s always been quality as long as he’s fit and in form which he is right now.
Li WenWen is the GOAT
Murray_17
RealGM
Posts: 13,937
And1: 14,112
Joined: Mar 20, 2020
   

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#664 » by Murray_17 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:21 pm

Read on Twitter


Wonder how this change if Ben Plays or if Joe stop getting minutes
ankle420breaker
General Manager
Posts: 9,051
And1: 2,092
Joined: Sep 21, 2005
Location: South Jersey

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#665 » by ankle420breaker » Wed Oct 13, 2021 4:12 pm

Hoping Embiid, Harris, Green, and Curry sit out Friday and we see extended minutes for Reed, Joe, Springer, and Bassey. No interest in running our starters against Detroit in our final exhibition game.

Sent from my SM-G970U using RealGM mobile app
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 66,041
And1: 26,993
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#666 » by 76ciology » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:54 pm

What if…

Korkmaz is THAT guy.

Think about it.
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
Eyeamok
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,963
And1: 3,835
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
 

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#667 » by Eyeamok » Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:11 pm

76ciology wrote:What if…

Korkmaz is THAT guy.

Think about it.


Once upon a time I said. "What if Evan Turner is just allowed to be the PG." Just like you I was wrong.
You want it to be one way....but it's the other way. (Marlo)

My 2025 Draft Order choice.

Cedric Coward
Ace
VJ
SixthStreet
Starter
Posts: 2,185
And1: 1,842
Joined: May 31, 2018
       

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#668 » by SixthStreet » Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:10 pm

The reason Korkmaz can’t take a larger ball handling role is because good defenders can take away his space to dribble without fear of a blow by. He’s also not strong enough to put someone on his hip and take advantage.

It’s too bad because he’s very skilled on ball.
sodmoraes
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,549
And1: 1,101
Joined: Dec 28, 2004
 

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#669 » by sodmoraes » Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:19 pm

Kork or Joe? Kork is more of a SF and Joe a SG, but if i had to pick one it would be Joe. He seems to be more consistent as a shooter and will be a decent defender too, once he gets stronger. In the future i can see him creating a bit , and shooting pull up jumpers.
[quote:bba5df4c1f="hornetstime"]jr smith will be out of this league in 2 years, book it.[/quote]
User avatar
TTP
Head Coach
Posts: 6,024
And1: 4,439
Joined: Oct 24, 2016
   

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#670 » by TTP » Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:23 pm

SixthStreet wrote:The reason Korkmaz can’t take a larger ball handling role is because good defenders can take away his space to dribble without fear of a blow by. He’s also not strong enough to put someone on his hip and take advantage.

It’s too bad because he’s very skilled on ball.


He also isn't great at getting to the line and is surprisingly bad from mid-range. Maybe he can improve in those spots though I'm doubtful he's ever going to be a big-time on-ball threat. I'm all for trying things out in the preseason and regular season though.
jonjames is a signature bet welcher.

Appostis wrote:You're friend ..is a idiot.
User avatar
TTP
Head Coach
Posts: 6,024
And1: 4,439
Joined: Oct 24, 2016
   

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#671 » by TTP » Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:29 pm

sodmoraes wrote:Kork or Joe? Kork is more of a SF and Joe a SG, but if i had to pick one it would be Joe. He seems to be more consistent as a shooter and will be a decent defender too, once he gets stronger. In the future i can see him creating a bit , and shooting pull up jumpers.


The other thing with Joe (and unlikely Korkmaz) is that we've seen less of what he can't do. He's still very much a mystery box, but every glimpse I get, I like what I see.

We thought he'd be an awful defender with his size, but then he seemingly had very little problem on James Harden, one of the toughest asks in the history of the league.

We didn't think he could play on-ball, but he's looked very competent with his handle, running PnR, and hitting off the dribble shots.

I'm sure his flaws will become more evident over time, but we should definitely keep giving him a lot of minutes and testing him out in different situations until we figure out exactly what we have.
jonjames is a signature bet welcher.

Appostis wrote:You're friend ..is a idiot.
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 66,041
And1: 26,993
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#672 » by 76ciology » Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:50 pm

Eyeamok wrote:
76ciology wrote:What if…

Korkmaz is THAT guy.

Think about it.


Once upon a time I said. "What if Evan Turner is just allowed to be the PG." Just like you I was wrong.


This time it’s different :naaa:
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 66,041
And1: 26,993
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#673 » by 76ciology » Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:51 pm

sodmoraes wrote:Kork or Joe? Kork is more of a SF and Joe a SG, but if i had to pick one it would be Joe. He seems to be more consistent as a shooter and will be a decent defender too, once he gets stronger. In the future i can see him creating a bit , and shooting pull up jumpers.



Starter? Joe.

Better player next season? Kork

Better player after next season? 50-50

I think Kork is just more mature but Joe seems to be more consistent. Kork can get to a level Joe may have a hard time to reach next season. After next season, who knows.
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
DCasey91
General Manager
Posts: 9,535
And1: 5,775
Joined: Dec 15, 2020
   

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#674 » by DCasey91 » Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:37 pm

sodmoraes wrote:Kork or Joe? Kork is more of a SF and Joe a SG, but if i had to pick one it would be Joe. He seems to be more consistent as a shooter and will be a decent defender too, once he gets stronger. In the future i can see him creating a bit , and shooting pull up jumpers.


Joe for me, is like a 6”4” Paul George (style not how good), all in on him. Should be an on ball defender (I reckon that would be ideal for him, quick, wiry strong, great length, very good defensive IQ) and a wing offensive player that can operate on ball.

There’s a 90’s player just like him can’t remember the life of me the name though lol. Also he’ll gain more bulk/strength as the years go on.

Keep Joe!
Li WenWen is the GOAT
User avatar
Stanford
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 53,654
And1: 18,906
Joined: Feb 07, 2005
Location: Parts Unknown
   

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#675 » by Stanford » Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:54 pm

What a beautiful time, when everyone can rally around one guy before a vocal group starts to hate him
SixthStreet
Starter
Posts: 2,185
And1: 1,842
Joined: May 31, 2018
       

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#676 » by SixthStreet » Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:59 pm

Joe is a smaller thrift store version of Reggie Miller.
Negrodamus
RealGM
Posts: 26,641
And1: 17,247
Joined: Aug 05, 2004

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#677 » by Negrodamus » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:26 pm

Joe is skinnier rich man's Ray Allen.
User avatar
stormi
General Manager
Posts: 8,827
And1: 9,221
Joined: Jun 04, 2019
Location: Kon FC Headquarters
     

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#678 » by stormi » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:33 pm

sodmoraes wrote:Kork or Joe? Kork is more of a SF and Joe a SG, but if i had to pick one it would be Joe. He seems to be more consistent as a shooter and will be a decent defender too, once he gets stronger. In the future i can see him creating a bit , and shooting pull up jumpers.


Joe is a purer shooter, and I think he's a smarter basketball player.

Kork is nice to have around because he does have the ability to go flamethrow mode where he can't miss, and sometimes he can do stuff off the dribble. But for me, whenever things go really good for him they still seem fluke-y as opposed to reliable and repeatable. If that makes sense.

I think legit upgrades on Kork and Milton are needed to take the bench / squad depth to the next level imo.
HotelVitale
RealGM
Posts: 16,872
And1: 12,004
Joined: Sep 14, 2007
Location: West Philly, PA

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#679 » by HotelVitale » Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:29 am

stormi wrote:
sodmoraes wrote:Kork or Joe? Kork is more of a SF and Joe a SG, but if i had to pick one it would be Joe. He seems to be more consistent as a shooter and will be a decent defender too, once he gets stronger. In the future i can see him creating a bit , and shooting pull up jumpers.
Joe is a purer shooter, and I think he's a smarter basketball player. Kork is nice to have around because he does have the ability to go flamethrow mode where he can't miss, and sometimes he can do stuff off the dribble. But for me, whenever things go really good for him they still seem fluke-y as opposed to reliable and repeatable. If that makes sense..


That does make sense, but Joe legit might not be able to drill 3 and a half three per 36 on 40% over a whole season, drop 30 on back-to-back nights, etc. It's hard to actually bring it in the NBA on the regular, tons of talented folks don't manage to pull it off. I gotta see Joe do that before saying he's just another slippery shooter who's not quite good enough all around to be worth a rotation spot.
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 66,041
And1: 26,993
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: The Preseason. All of it. 

Post#680 » by 76ciology » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:12 am

Blazers havent won a single game for the entire preseason but i think they have the talent to be much better. Its worth monitoring
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.

Return to Philadelphia 76ers