Ryan Arcidiacono?

[DuckIII]

In the last two years before the dealing started, there were people here endorsing him for the starting PG job and now he's got a training camp deal. The Arci backers need to get it through their heads, he was a prime example of how bad things were here.

I don't recall anyone ever endorsing Arci as a starting PG. I don't know if anyone even endorsed this dude as the primary backup PG.

As a 3rd string PG, he was pretty reasonable.

I think I actually even started a thread advocating that Arci start. But it had nothing to do with him being a starter quality point guard. It was about us really, really weirdly having no other point guards on the roster last year once Coby (in a surprise to no one) proved he was not a point guard, and would serve the team better as a bench scorer.

So yeah, there was a little advocacy to start Arci, but it had nothing to do with him. It was about the absolutely pathetic state of the team’s PG situation last year, which is the worst I think I’ve ever seen on an an NBA team.

Fortunately we resolved that problem.

[MrSparkle]

To be clear, we’ve been a tank job for 5 years straight. I thought Ryan should’ve gotten a starting shot between 17-19, before we got Coby. Was fine with watching Coby struggle and “learn”/try PG. Would’ve been fine with watching Ryan lose us games instead of Dunn, Sato and whatever other ideas GarPax had. In many ways, my most enjoyable times eating popcorn were when Arci and Shaq played instead of the bust crop.

This said, Ryan could clearly not create at the NBA level. Too small, too slow, too uncreative. But he had pretty clean guard skills and excellent defense for his size. He’s a 3D guard trapped in a college guard body. Would probably slay in Euroleague. I was baffled when he got $6m, but that was business as usual for GarPax. (Throwing cap space away)

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[eierluke]

no role here? Not so sure.
Matt Thomas is carreer .413 shooter from 3, but shot just .333 in preseason.
Arcie shoots the 3 at .373 for his careeer and is in difference to Thomas not a defensive liability.

[transplant]

Chicago LOVES try hard guys. This said, if the Bulls have no place for Arcidiacano, I take it as a positive...means we have actual NBA talent.

[coldfish]

Kriss Dunn was waived by the Grizzlies. A lot of the Arci "love" was based around the fact that his competition was turrible.

[kodo]

Arci & Dunn can't even find a job in this league and we've started both guys. Reminder of how terrible our roster was.

[khufure]

Arci got the most out of his talent. Dunn's an early 1st lottery pick. I"m rooting for Arc like 90000x more.


https://www.celticsblog.com/2021/10/15/22728901/report-boston-celtics-waive-ryan-arcidiacono-and-juwan-morgan "As both Arcidiacono and Morgan were on Exhibit 10 contracts, it’s likely both players will land with the Maine Celtics of the G League as Affiliate Players. Both players will stay linked to Boston, and the Celtics system, but will be considered NBA free agents and able to sign with any NBA team."

[DuckIII]

Arci got the most out of his talent. Dunn's an early 1st lottery pick. I"m rooting for Arc like 90000x more.


https://www.celticsblog.com/2021/10/15/22728901/report-boston-celtics-waive-ryan-arcidiacono-and-juwan-morgan "As both Arcidiacono and Morgan were on Exhibit 10 contracts, it’s likely both players will land with the Maine Celtics of the G League as Affiliate Players. Both players will stay linked to Boston, and the Celtics system, but will be considered NBA free agents and able to sign with any NBA team."

If you haven’t read about Kris Dunn’s life, do so and you’ll probably root for him as well. Dunn’s been a huge disappointment to me as an NBA player but I still think he can carve out a role on the bench as a specialist.

[khufure]

Arci got the most out of his talent. Dunn's an early 1st lottery pick. I"m rooting for Arc like 90000x more.


https://www.celticsblog.com/2021/10/15/22728901/report-boston-celtics-waive-ryan-arcidiacono-and-juwan-morgan "As both Arcidiacono and Morgan were on Exhibit 10 contracts, it’s likely both players will land with the Maine Celtics of the G League as Affiliate Players. Both players will stay linked to Boston, and the Celtics system, but will be considered NBA free agents and able to sign with any NBA team."

If you haven’t read about Kris Dunn’s life, do so and you’ll probably root for him as well. Dunn’s been a huge disappointment to me as an NBA player but I still think he can carve out a role on the bench as a specialist.

He got all the talent in the world, a painful childhood, and forgot to work on his game once he made it. I'm not rooting against him but I'm not rooting for him either.

I love that the current Bulls roster seems to have a bunch of players that improve every year. Love it. Especially that the stars of the team are those same players. Can't wait for this season to start!

[GoBlue72391]

Kriss Dunn was waived by the Grizzlies. A lot of the Arci "love" was based around the fact that his competition was turrible.

Dunn is a truly terrible offensive player, but also a truly fantastic defensive player. If Ntilikina can stick on the end of a roster for defensive purposes, surely Dunn can. Given that he can be had for cheap, I would be surprised if he's not picked up rather quickly.

[Grodoboldo]

Arci got the most out of his talent. Dunn's an early 1st lottery pick. I"m rooting for Arc like 90000x more.


https://www.celticsblog.com/2021/10/15/22728901/report-boston-celtics-waive-ryan-arcidiacono-and-juwan-morgan "As both Arcidiacono and Morgan were on Exhibit 10 contracts, it’s likely both players will land with the Maine Celtics of the G League as Affiliate Players. Both players will stay linked to Boston, and the Celtics system, but will be considered NBA free agents and able to sign with any NBA team."

If you haven’t read about Kris Dunn’s life, do so and you’ll probably root for him as well. Dunn’s been a huge disappointment to me as an NBA player but I still think he can carve out a role on the bench as a specialist.

It's gotta be the knee thing. He was out too long to think it's a non issue.
If healthy, I agree, the Dunn we last saw in Chicago could probably stick around somewhere as a defensive specialist.

[eierluke]

He has his limitations, but Arci plays with heart and though not a creative point guard usually make some good decisions on the court.
He'd be a perfect fit for some european leagues like the german basketball league

[khufure]

Arci got the most out of his talent. Dunn's an early 1st lottery pick. I"m rooting for Arc like 90000x more.


https://www.celticsblog.com/2021/10/15/22728901/report-boston-celtics-waive-ryan-arcidiacono-and-juwan-morgan "As both Arcidiacono and Morgan were on Exhibit 10 contracts, it’s likely both players will land with the Maine Celtics of the G League as Affiliate Players. Both players will stay linked to Boston, and the Celtics system, but will be considered NBA free agents and able to sign with any NBA team."

If you haven’t read about Kris Dunn’s life, do so and you’ll probably root for him as well. Dunn’s been a huge disappointment to me as an NBA player but I still think he can carve out a role on the bench as a specialist.

It's gotta be the knee thing. He was out too long to think it's a non issue.
If healthy, I agree, the Dunn we last saw in Chicago could probably stick around somewhere as a defensive specialist.

forgot about his injuries. if that's the case GL Dunn!

[HomoSapien]

I’ll be honest, I liked Dunn a fair amount his first year here. If he can still be that player, then that’s a luxury as a third stringer.

[dougthonus]

I’ll be honest, I liked Dunn a fair amount his first year here. If he can still be that player, then that’s a luxury as a third stringer.

If he were still capable of being that player he wouldn't have gotten waived is my guess.

[HomoSapien]

I’ll be honest, I liked Dunn a fair amount his first year here. If he can still be that player, then that’s a luxury as a third stringer.

If he were still capable of being that player he wouldn't have gotten waived is my guess.

He's a 27-year-old non-shooting point guard who has played 4 games in a year. Not surprising that a team would waive him.

He's had a **** ton of injuries, but nothing that should be close to career-ending (unless I'm unaware of one). My guess is that he's just incredibly rusty and will need to find a team that's willing to be patient with him.

[Grodoboldo]

I’ll be honest, I liked Dunn a fair amount his first year here. If he can still be that player, then that’s a luxury as a third stringer.

If he were still capable of being that player he wouldn't have gotten waived is my guess.

He's a 27-year-old non-shooting point guard who has played 4 games in a year. Not surprising that a team would waive him.

He's had a **** ton of injuries, but nothing that should be close to career-ending (unless I'm unaware of one). My guess is that he's just incredibly rusty and will need to find a team that's willing to be patient with him.

Well, no team is willing to be patient with a 27 yo player who was a borderline reserve non-shooting defensive specialist guard at his peak. If his health allows him, he should work himself into game shape and show a playoff team that he can be a useful addition for their deep bench.

[dougthonus]

He's a 27-year-old non-shooting point guard who has played 4 games in a year. Not surprising that a team would waive him.

He's had a **** ton of injuries, but nothing that should be close to career-ending (unless I'm unaware of one). My guess is that he's just incredibly rusty and will need to find a team that's willing to be patient with him.

We'll see what happens with Dunn, but he was a guy that relied on athleticism to be a disruptive defender that missed effectively an entire last season with ankle surgery. It's quite possible that he's just lost some of that lateral quickness that made him effective. His rust on offense shouldn't impact his ability to be an impactful defender, and he's had all summer to get in shape and if he's not, then that's a pretty big problem.

You obviously could be right, guys like him have come back and done well, but he wasn't a super high upside player prior to all of this, i mean going into the year relatively healthy he got something like 5M a year, so his upside is barely a bit above minimum caliber player, and his downside is useless.