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Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1501 » by Skates » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:09 pm

These are probably leftover Colangelo burner accounts still trolling like no one else trolls.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1502 » by BigSleep333 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:14 pm

damn benny boy..i think you need president's level of security. whatever team he plays for in the future...i doubt he will play in philly ever again
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1503 » by phillynative » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:32 pm

With Ben not available and Shake injured is their not any vet min backup PGs available?
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1504 » by Sixerscan » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:47 pm

phillynative wrote:With Ben not available and Shake injured is their not any vet min backup PGs available?

They don't have an open roster spot, I think if Ben were to be suspended long enough they would eventually be granted an extra one. I assume Shake will be back relatively soon so they don't want just cut Bassey or something.

I guess one thing they could do is cut Riller (who would have gotten a golden opportunity here, it's a shame he got hurt) or Henry and sign someone to a two way but you need to only have a few years experience to be eligible for that. Again I think they just want to wait until Shake gets back or Ben gets out of his feelings.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1505 » by kriss73 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:39 pm

Point-Korky. No fear.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1506 » by Negrodamus » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:40 pm

kriss73 wrote:Point-Korky. No fear.


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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1507 » by phillynative » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:42 pm

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phillynative wrote:With Ben not available and Shake injured is their not any vet min backup PGs available?

They don't have an open roster spot, I think if Ben were to be suspended long enough they would eventually be granted an extra one. I assume Shake will be back relatively soon so they don't want just cut Bassey or something.

I guess one thing they could do is cut Riller (who would have gotten a golden opportunity here, it's a shame he got hurt) or Henry and sign someone to a two way but you need to only have a few years experience to be eligible for that. Again I think they just want to wait until Shake gets back or Ben gets out of his feelings.


I saw that Doc said they liked Riller, so maybe they hold on to him. I don't understand the Henry and Harrison taking up roster spots just as much as I don't get the Springer draft pick.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1508 » by thenbaman » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:43 pm

Tomjas wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:It's not worth engaging, guys. The goalposts move and nary a worthy point is ever made.

For instance, the Sixers "don't want Ben here and haven't for months" despite saying publicly that they want to keep Ben. That's a fine argument to have, but you can't also hold the belief that Ben never said/did anything to exacerbate the situation and that it's all media hearsay or Klutch Sports's words these past 5 months.


Those millions of $ in fines are reeeaaaally encouraging Ben to stay

Gtfoh

If anything, the Sixers propaganda is worse than Klutch

This has to be ben's sister. :noway:
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1509 » by thenbaman » Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:47 pm

fkd215 wrote:I think this situation is all Morey’s fault! No, wait, it’s Joel’s! Maybe it’s Tobias Harris. Or Grant Riller. The equipment manager had a hand in all this. And Jenny from the Wells Fargo Center Shake Shack isn’t blameless either.

The one person who we can all agree is a poor, blameless victim, who had no role, responsibility, or agency in this situation, is Ben Simmons.

What about jake from statefarm. :nod:
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1510 » by Sixerscan » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:05 pm

phillynative wrote:
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phillynative wrote:With Ben not available and Shake injured is their not any vet min backup PGs available?

They don't have an open roster spot, I think if Ben were to be suspended long enough they would eventually be granted an extra one. I assume Shake will be back relatively soon so they don't want just cut Bassey or something.

I guess one thing they could do is cut Riller (who would have gotten a golden opportunity here, it's a shame he got hurt) or Henry and sign someone to a two way but you need to only have a few years experience to be eligible for that. Again I think they just want to wait until Shake gets back or Ben gets out of his feelings.


I saw that Doc said they liked Riller, so maybe they hold on to him. I don't understand the Henry and Harrison taking up roster spots just as much as I don't get the Springer draft pick.

Harrison was cut.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1511 » by the_process » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:14 pm

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Sportfan73 wrote:I’m starting to think nothing good at all has been offered


If by good, you mean an All-Star level player? Agreed, I also don’t believe that has been offered.

But there is enough smoke to think that Minnesota offered their scrubs and at least 2 1sts and 2 swaps. Also SA has made an offer, and while they don’t have anything sexy they do have some solid vets and some intriguing youngsters.

IMO Morey has just been too focused on Dame, and secondarily Beal.

I wonder how long the players are willing to put up with the circus before they all start pushing back on management.


I don't see how that Minny package makes the team much better than they already are without Simmons. If all the best offer does is lock the team into like a low level playoff team that may make the 2nd round against the right matchup they may as well wait (which has been the issue for months).


The extra picks better position them to trade for the next star level player that asks out. Teams aren't that excited about Ben Simmons anymore, and I don't think you can highlight a trade package for a Bradley Beal type with Simmons.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1512 » by Stanford » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:27 pm

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1513 » by Sixerscan » Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:38 pm

the_process wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
the_process wrote:
If by good, you mean an All-Star level player? Agreed, I also don’t believe that has been offered.

But there is enough smoke to think that Minnesota offered their scrubs and at least 2 1sts and 2 swaps. Also SA has made an offer, and while they don’t have anything sexy they do have some solid vets and some intriguing youngsters.

IMO Morey has just been too focused on Dame, and secondarily Beal.

I wonder how long the players are willing to put up with the circus before they all start pushing back on management.


I don't see how that Minny package makes the team much better than they already are without Simmons. If all the best offer does is lock the team into like a low level playoff team that may make the 2nd round against the right matchup they may as well wait (which has been the issue for months).


The extra picks better position them to trade for the next star level player that asks out. Teams aren't that excited about Ben Simmons anymore, and I don't think you can highlight a trade package for a Bradley Beal type with Simmons.


I think the possibility that your prediction is wrong is worth the risk that Minny pulls a pick or two from that offer in a few months. Just like I can't guarantee his value is going to go up you can't guarantee those picks are going to turn or be flippable into anything. I don't see anything about that offer that makes me think they have to jump on it today.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1514 » by Negrodamus » Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:18 pm

Read on Twitter


"Oh, let me guess, you're going to believe an unreliable media source like Shams? Just another sheeple. Ben would never say that and he's definitely not going to be unprofessional throughout this process. If he is, then it is actually Morey and Doc's fault for not trading him sooner!"
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1515 » by Murray_17 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:32 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Read on Twitter




Does this include Shooting? :o
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1516 » by Bum Adebayo » Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:34 pm

Plz guys tell me this is fake:

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1517 » by Negrodamus » Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:36 pm

With zero investigation into the matter, yes it's fake.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1518 » by Bum Adebayo » Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:37 pm

Simmons25 wrote:I guess in hindsight this predraft scouting report was fairly accurate huh? :lol:

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You mean the same guys (Draftexpress) that I remember you were bashing at the time?
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1519 » by Da Doctor » Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:58 pm

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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 6 

Post#1520 » by Winejk » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:01 pm

Here's my question: All the money Ben Simmons is losing because of his holdout and being suspended, does the team get a deduction from salary cap/luxury tax for it?

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