PG Thread: Oh no, we suck again!

3toheadmelo · Post #181 » by **3toheadmelo** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:33 am

F N 11 wrote:Somebody in the game thread said RJ just need an opportunity as if he’s James Harden on OKC.

he's more like the thabo sefolosha on okc

Adelheid · Post #182 » by **Adelheid** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:33 am

evevale wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Hottest of hot takes:

I'd put RJ into a trade for a star in split second.

hotter take than that: i doubt anybody wants him

hottest take: his next contract is vet min with the MavKnicks

Very much possible he lands with the Mavs; but not with the vetmin part

Monk1718 · Post #183 » by **Monk1718** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:34 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:LOL! SPike gave his seats to Cole's mom. GET THAT MAN OUT OF THE GARDEN ALREADY!!!!!

I’ll give Cole’s mom a seat

BBALLER4FR · Post #184 » by **BBALLER4FR** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:34 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:LOL! SPike gave his seats to Cole's mom. GET THAT MAN OUT OF THE GARDEN ALREADY!!!!!

First Reggie Mller now Cole & Co. Spike Lee and his many-O-pumpkin outfits are a curse! SHEESH!!!

RHODEY · Post #185 » by **RHODEY** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:36 am

NewEra wrote:Well look on the bright side. At least we’re not the Nets. Get some rest guys.

Other positives are Rose, his shooting is close to amazing and it looks sustainable, and Mitch even at ~70% is a huge game changer.
I really want to see Grimes and Deuce on the accelerated development track. I know it wont happen any time soon but they are possible answers to our current weaknesses and both are two way players.

Chanel Bomber · Post #186 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:36 am

GONYK wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:Final thought:

I know Rose is carrying this team coming off the bench, and that the "It doesn't matter who starts, but who finishes" platitude is more popular than ever, but I wonder if this team shouldn't rip the band-aid, start Rose (its best player), and then have a more realistic approach to finding a proper back-up PG.

The organization seems paralyzed when it comes to acquiring an actual starting PG - maybe because the price is supposedly "so" high (it's high for a reason). But Rose is playing like one. So why not start Rose, and get a competent two-way back-up PG via trade.

There's a reason why Boston and OKC felt they were better off without Kemba Walker.

I don't really see the benefit of that. Either way, the minute distribution is the same.

I also don't think a competent two-way PG is easy to get, backup or otherwise.

Kemba is just here to soak up non-Rose mins

I agree about the minutes distribution. I was moreso focusing on the trade.

I agree that a competent PG isn't easy to get. That's because the position is important, which underlines how much we need to fix it.

The Knicks have to make a sacrifice to get a real PG at some point.

We suck at PG because we're always looking for bargains and we're never willing to pay full price for quality. No more Kemba for $8 mill, or Payton for $5 mill. Make a trade. It might just be more realistic to find a solid back-up PG than a star PG.

ADeP7 · Post #187 » by **ADeP7** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:36 am

Rj is very much available

Leon’s got eyes on a few guards and rj is going to be added with ease

NYKnickerbocker · Post #188 » by **NYKnickerbocker** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:36 am

This is a horrible place

BBALLER4FR · Post #189 » by **BBALLER4FR** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:36 am

Monk1718 wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:LOL! SPike gave his seats to Cole's mom. GET THAT MAN OUT OF THE GARDEN ALREADY!!!!!

I’ll give Cole’s mom a seat

F N 11 · Post #190 » by **F N 11** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:36 am

Oh boy “RJ is 21” is being thrown around again.

Chanel Bomber · Post #191 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:41 am

robillionaire wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:Final thought:

I know Rose is carrying this team coming off the bench, and that the "It doesn't matter who starts, but who finishes" platitude is more popular than ever, but I wonder if this team shouldn't rip the band-aid, start Rose (its best player), and then have a more realistic approach to finding a proper back-up PG.

The organization seems paralyzed when it comes to acquiring an actual starting PG - maybe because the price is "so" high (it's high for a reason). But Rose is playing like one. So why not start Rose, and get a competent two-way back-up PG via trade.

There's a reason why Boston and OKC felt they were better off without Kemba Walker.

I hate to tell you this but rose isn't an actual starting pg either, I know he's been really good for us but he's a backup, and I'm sure there were reasons that plenty of teams have felt they were better off without him as well, including the cavs, pistons, timberwolves, and knicks in 2017

Rose would be a competent starting PG imo.

His game has evolved since those last stints in New York, Minnesota and Cleveland that you mentioned. He's looking to involve his teammates way more than he did in years past imo. He's also played well in the 4th quarter, against presumably the opposing team's best line-ups. So I'd say he could at the very least be a competent starting PG.

Wharton Alum 08 · Post #192 » by **Wharton Alum 08** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:44 am

robillionaire wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:Final thought:

I know Rose is carrying this team coming off the bench, and that the "It doesn't matter who starts, but who finishes" platitude is more popular than ever, but I wonder if this team shouldn't rip the band-aid, start Rose (its best player), and then have a more realistic approach to finding a proper back-up PG.

The organization seems paralyzed when it comes to acquiring an actual starting PG - maybe because the price is "so" high (it's high for a reason). But Rose is playing like one. So why not start Rose, and get a competent two-way back-up PG via trade.

There's a reason why Boston and OKC felt they were better off without Kemba Walker.

I hate to tell you this but rose isn't an actual starting pg either, I know he's been really good for us but he's a backup, and I'm sure there were reasons that plenty of teams have felt they were better off without him as well, including the cavs, pistons, timberwolves, and knicks in 2017

Rose is the victim of a lot of narratives. He's judged against 2011 Rose. If you strip the name you have a top 15-20ish PG easily. He's only not a starter in name he's humbled himself but there's no reason he shouldn't have been starting over inferior guards like Jeff Teague, Killian Hayes and Elfrid Payton.

3toheadmelo · Post #193 » by **3toheadmelo** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:45 am

i said this the other day but CJ McCollum could be a nice get for cheap. he's having a great start to the season

TheGreenArrow · Post #194 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:46 am

ADeP7 wrote:Rj is very much available

Leon’s got eyes on a few guards and rj is going to be added with ease

Thanks!!!!

Keep the info coming!!!!!!!!!

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #195 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:48 am

If only there had been a defensive PG, that moves the ball and can shoot the three available in free agency, if only we could have signed a player like that from a family that has neva lost.

robillionaire · Post #196 » by **robillionaire** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:49 am

Wharton Alum 08 wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:Final thought:

I know Rose is carrying this team coming off the bench, and that the "It doesn't matter who starts, but who finishes" platitude is more popular than ever, but I wonder if this team shouldn't rip the band-aid, start Rose (its best player), and then have a more realistic approach to finding a proper back-up PG.

The organization seems paralyzed when it comes to acquiring an actual starting PG - maybe because the price is "so" high (it's high for a reason). But Rose is playing like one. So why not start Rose, and get a competent two-way back-up PG via trade.

There's a reason why Boston and OKC felt they were better off without Kemba Walker.

I hate to tell you this but rose isn't an actual starting pg either, I know he's been really good for us but he's a backup, and I'm sure there were reasons that plenty of teams have felt they were better off without him as well, including the cavs, pistons, timberwolves, and knicks in 2017

Rose is the victim of a lot of narratives. He's judged against 2011 Rose. If you strip the name you have a top 15-20ish PG easily. He's only not a starter in name he's humbled himself but there's no reason he shouldn't have been starting over inferior guards like Jeff Teague, Killian Hayes and Elfrid Payton.

He's been playing great but I'm an advocate of, it ain't broke don't fix it. he's been an elite 6th man. he's excelled in this role. we tried starting him in the playoffs last year and he looked gassed by the end of it and we lost all 3 games, I dunno if he can survive a whole season of that

Spree2Houston · Post #197 » by **Spree2Houston** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:49 am

Deuce is our future starting pg

3toheadmelo · Post #198 » by **3toheadmelo** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:51 am

randle with an off game still put up 30 points 16 rebounds 3 assists 4 blocks 2 steals

F N 11 · Post #199 » by **F N 11** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:51 am

This one was mainly on Randle, imma end the night with that. See y’all Tuesday.

No more point Randle please

Little Italia · Post #200 » by **Little Italia** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 2:51 am

I like RJ as a person but as a player he annoys me so much. He's a jack of all trades kind of guy but a master of none. He's below average finisher and he has an inconsistent shot and plus he's slow af. I fear....he has already peaked! If he can be traded for a superstar, you jump at that chance.