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Re: ATL - 2021-22 Regular Season Begins 

Post#1541 » by machu46 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 1:53 pm

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Definitely one of the best City sets of the year. In terms of being an upgrade from their normal jerseys, Brooklyn, Washington, and the Clippers knocked theirs out of the park.
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Post#1542 » by machu46 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 1:55 pm

stellation wrote:I enjoy watching Luka play, and he makes guys around him better... but I have to wonder how popular a guy dominating the play enough to have 23 shots, 2 FTs, 7 assists, 4 turnovers in 33 minutes would be on a rec league team.

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I wonder if this is the way he wants to play or if it's just the way he has to play because that team has nobody else that can create anything. Maybe a combination of the two.
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Post#1543 » by leroyjw10 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 2:06 pm

machu46 wrote:
stellation wrote:I enjoy watching Luka play, and he makes guys around him better... but I have to wonder how popular a guy dominating the play enough to have 23 shots, 2 FTs, 7 assists, 4 turnovers in 33 minutes would be on a rec league team.

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I wonder if this is the way he wants to play or if it's just the way he has to play because that team has nobody else that can create anything. Maybe a combination of the two.


Brunson is looking pretty good right now. Bucks took the wrong Nova guy.
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Post#1544 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Nov 4, 2021 2:53 pm

Inevitable regression to the mean with Charlotte, Chicago, Washington, and the Knicks taking ugly losses last night. Always fun to see the early season hot takes evaporate by mid-November.
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Post#1545 » by MikeIsGood » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:11 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Inevitable regression to the mean with Charlotte, Chicago, Washington, and the Knicks taking ugly losses last night. Always fun to see the early season hot takes evaporate by mid-November.


My favorite recently was Orlando several seasons ago when Aaron Gordon and Evan Fournier were combining to shoot like 57% from 3.
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Post#1546 » by paulpressey25 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:13 pm

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Brunson is looking pretty good right now. Bucks took the wrong Nova guy.


Think one of the bigger mistakes was taking DJ Wilson over Jarrett Allen. Allen had a huge game last night for the Cav's. He and Mobley form an amazing frontcourt duo.
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Post#1547 » by machu46 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:23 pm

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leroyjw10 wrote:
Brunson is looking pretty good right now. Bucks took the wrong Nova guy.


Think one of the bigger mistakes was taking DJ Wilson over Jarrett Allen. Allen had a huge game last night for the Cav's. He and Mobley form an amazing frontcourt duo.


That should have been John Collins. It'll never make sense to me that Collins wasn't a top 10 pick and we took a fringe NBAer over him.
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Post#1548 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:29 pm

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Milbucks96 wrote:Giannis scoring and efficiency plummets against the heat and it’s been like that for a couple years, it’s consistent and significant enough to where I don’t want to play them in the playoffs lol. I don’t think they’re a better team overall but they weren’t a better team in 2020 either, I also think the bucks were as good or even better than 2019 raps.

The bucks are a bad offensive team in the playoffs and it’s their main weakness when playing against contenders. Whenever Giannis can’t score and can’t get to the basket, the team falls apart. We would need a great shooting series from everybody not named Giannis.



Like in the ECF?

Jrue is the key. Miami won't beat Jrue, Khris & Giannis. They wouldn't have blown them out this season with Jrue & Brook.

All I’m saying is that team is for real, and they have Giannis figured out at the moment. You basically have to pencil him in for low 20’s ppg on bad efficiency. Add in the fact that Khris is so up and down(more down against elite defense) and Jrue is sneaky a bad scoring option in the playoffs and you have a series that can go either way. Fully healthy I would still lean bucks but I wouldn’t want to play them in the playoffs.

Well Giannis's low efficiency is due to them selling out. If we didn't shoot horrible game 1, it would've been a blood bath of a series. We would have to shoot below 33% on wide open 3s to lose....and in that case it is more us than the heat IMO.

You can take this view on most teams though:
Nets - If healthy, they are better
Sixer - If Brook goes down, we are probably screwed. If they get someone for simmons, they could be scary again
Hawks - They have the shooter to run us out of the gym and were 2-2 against us (if you include game 4) in games Giannis played.
Celtics - Have the talent in Tatum and Brown to put up big games.

Like sure the Heat probably fall in that second tier but they look like a standard 3-6 team to me at this point. I'm still betting big on father time with this team. One of those 3 guys (JFB, PJ, or Lowry) will decline or be hobbled come late April.
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Post#1549 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Nov 4, 2021 3:47 pm

If "figuring out" Giannis means forcing him to play more point-forward (23/15/8) and still sweeping your asses out of the playoffs, then please Spo, "figure out" Giannis for a second consecutive postseason. Some people will never shake this weird Miami boogeyman.
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Post#1550 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Nov 4, 2021 4:24 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:If "figuring out" Giannis means forcing him to play more point-forward (23/15/8) and still sweeping your asses out of the playoffs, then please Spo, "figure out" Giannis for a second consecutive postseason. Some people will never shake this weird Miami boogeyman.

Many people here were quite upset when we could have avoided Miami in round 1 last season and Bud chose not to.
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Post#1551 » by emunney » Thu Nov 4, 2021 4:31 pm

We build our entire roster last year around taking care of the Heat (and all aspiring Heats) and it worked, obviously. This year the Heat built around an anti-Giannis philosophy. We had the talent advantage going in, so we'll see how it works, but I would bet heavily that it doesn't if we're healthy or even somewhat healthy. And good luck to *them* on being healthy, they're one bad landing from starting Max Strus.

People were freaking out when we lost to them early in the season last year (without Jimmy even), how'd that work out? They're a good team and their top end talent isn't good enough.
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Post#1552 » by EastSideBucksFan » Thu Nov 4, 2021 4:50 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
leroyjw10 wrote:
Brunson is looking pretty good right now. Bucks took the wrong Nova guy.


Think one of the bigger mistakes was taking DJ Wilson over Jarrett Allen. Allen had a huge game last night for the Cav's. He and Mobley form an amazing frontcourt duo.



It's truly amazing how bad Bucks have drafted in the Giannis era and we still won it all

Bucks could've been nearly set with a core that would age into the core and be ready for the next era

But, the clock is ticking and we already see what a post Brook era without a replacement looks like

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Post#1553 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Nov 4, 2021 4:56 pm

Read on Twitter
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Sarver article finally out. Feels like the worst case scenario for suns fans. Cements his already awful reputation as an owner but unless there's more actual proof that's not in here I don't see enough for the league to actually Sterling him and force him out.

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Post#1554 » by emunney » Thu Nov 4, 2021 5:01 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
leroyjw10 wrote:
Brunson is looking pretty good right now. Bucks took the wrong Nova guy.


Think one of the bigger mistakes was taking DJ Wilson over Jarrett Allen. Allen had a huge game last night for the Cav's. He and Mobley form an amazing frontcourt duo.


I'll never forget Billy McKinney confidently asserting that Allen was a stretch 4.
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Post#1555 » by machu46 » Thu Nov 4, 2021 5:04 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Inevitable regression to the mean with Charlotte, Chicago, Washington, and the Knicks taking ugly losses last night. Always fun to see the early season hot takes evaporate by mid-November.


It's certainly true at least to some extent, but I do think Chicago at least is a near lock for the playoffs and New York/Charlotte should at least be in the race. I'm rooting for all 4 teams to at least be relevant. Washington's my local team (and I'm going to see them against Ja Morant tomorrow night which should be fun), Charlotte is just a legitimately really fun team to watch, and it's always fun when New York and Chicago are competitive. I'd throw the surprisingly feisty Cavaliers in there too.
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Post#1556 » by JayMKE » Thu Nov 4, 2021 6:29 pm

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Read on Twitter
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Sarver article finally out. Feels like the worst case scenario for suns fans. Cements his already awful reputation as an owner but unless there's more actual proof that's not in here I don't see enough for the league to actually Sterling him and force him out.

Having a bad owner is truly the worst thing for a fan base. Bad players, coaches, or front office eventually get replaced. Bad owner **** stays around forever.
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Being one degree separated from a former Sun's employee and having been the +1 to a number of Suns employee functions myself, we'd talk about Sarver and the Sun's organization quite often so none of the behavior described in this article is a surprise. My impression of Sarver up close was an out of touch middled aged rich guy who didn't really work anymore and had two young sons so he got his kicks from meddling with the Suns as his play thing/property and being performative try hard. He's a guy who wanted to be acknowledged as the boss at all times but also wants to somehow be "one of the guys", there's a very strange dichotomy between the toxic cutthroat corporate work environment he expects on one hand with the non-serious way he conducted himself. Is he a racist and misogynist? I dunno, maybe, I can't read his heart but he's most definitely an **** but like you said none of that really raises to the level of removal. I'll have to go ask about any personal anecdotes from those years in the Suns organization, everybody in the org longed for the Colangelo years for well over 10 years after the sale of the team amd probably still today for anybody that's left that remembers it. The Bucks championship was especially sweet coming against Sarver's team, lets just say that.
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Post#1557 » by FrieAaron » Thu Nov 4, 2021 7:19 pm

Chicago feels like they could be this years Atlanta. Don't think they have enough to win it all, but have a lot of talent and could make it to the second round.
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Post#1558 » by emunney » Thu Nov 4, 2021 7:25 pm

The Sarver stuff will be interesting because it doesn't seem as obvious as Sterling, who had a mountain of openly prejudicial business conduct to reinforce the terrible things he said privately. I don't know that Sarver does or doesn't, and he certainly doesn't sound like someone I'd want to work for or be around, *and* I personally think he should have his toy taken away and the NBA should have *higher* standards of conduct for their owners than they have for their players, but I think it's going to be a harder sell to the other billionaires, who are axiomatically **** but love to strike those Kendall Roy poses.
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Post#1559 » by chonestown » Thu Nov 4, 2021 7:36 pm

Solution: replace Robert Sarver with Nathan Arizona.
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Post#1560 » by RogerMurdock » Thu Nov 4, 2021 8:23 pm

chonestown wrote:Solution: replace Robert Sarver with Nathan Arizona.



I'd opt for Jackie Daytona, a regular human guy who hails from Tuscon, Arizona.

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