Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “

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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#141 » by meekrab » Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:18 pm

CobraCommander wrote:Are these the same refs from the Olympics...asking for a friend

If they're not, can we hire those guys?
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#142 » by Wolfgang630 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:24 pm

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CobraCommander wrote:Are these the same refs from the Olympics...asking for a friend


Haha, but honestly I think a lot of the changes in NBA officiating this year were because people watched the Olympics and preferred the more physical style of play, which made the NBA want to emulate that in some ways. The reffing I'm seeing this year reminds me of FIBA officiating.

Remember when Luka said the NBA was easier? No wonder he can’t put up his crazy stats either. I wonder if triple doubles are down compared to past years?
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Post#143 » by Sothron » Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:29 pm

Dame, Trae and Harden are right. It isn't the goofy foul baiting that is the problem now. It is the legit drives to the basket getting hacked and NOT getting a foul call that is a problem. That is a foul. Period. That should always be called. You have to reward the aggressive player/team when they get hacked while shooting. If you don't the game gets reaaaaly boring when players realize they can just hack guys all game long and there's no penalty for it. That's not basketball either.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#144 » by DonaldSanders » Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:33 pm

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CobraCommander wrote:Are these the same refs from the Olympics...asking for a friend


Haha, but honestly I think a lot of the changes in NBA officiating this year were because people watched the Olympics and preferred the more physical style of play, which made the NBA want to emulate that in some ways. The reffing I'm seeing this year reminds me of FIBA officiating.

That and the fact that watching players cheat to get free throws and shoot 15+ of them makes for a lousy viewing/tv experience.



This is something in business I preach to others: Customers have a lot of options for entertainment that makes them feel a range of good to awesome. There are a lot of options out there, what will make them change or stick is often how low the low's go. Foul line parades, flops dominating in crunch time, these were big low-lights in games. Momentum killers, fun destroyers, the stuff that made you want to walk away from the TV. If you eliminate "unnecessary" lows (meaning besides being sad your team lost) viewers are much more likely to keep watching and associate enjoyment with the NBA.

This is so good for the NBA, people move on much faster from missed calls then they do bad calls. Bad calls you sit and watch and dwell fuming and bored. Missed calls are frustrating but both sides get them and you get the enjoyment of continued action.

Better product from all view points (business and viewer).
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#145 » by floppymoose » Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:38 pm

Steph has no issue with the new rules. You would think a guy with a currygoat username would be on the same page with him.

For the refs, Curry said that "There’s going to be some confusion to start, for sure. Any emphasis they put from one year to the next, the changes, it takes some time to adjust. I’m sure there will be some antics early. Like that [step-back] traveling thing a couple years ago, refs are trained to look at a certain thing, but there’s a lot of other things going on. They have to get adjusted, too."

Steph Curry mentioned himself, Luka Doncic, James Harden, and Trae Young as the players that everyone wants to talk about the most as it pertains to this new rule; however, Steph remains confident that his game will not suffer as long as the referees are consistent.

On the consistency he hopes to see from officials, Steph said, "It’s just a matter of, hopefully, it’s consistent. That’s the biggest thing we need from a refereeing standpoint, across the board. I don’t care what you call, as long as you’re consistent with it, we’ll make the adjustments, and the game won’t suffer -- or my game won’t suffer for it, at all.”
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#146 » by IAMZOOTED2 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:51 pm

zeebneeb wrote:The rules changes are universally loved by fans. I have never seen a rule change like this that has been so slanted in polls, and perception, ever.(favorably)

To me this sends the messege that Dame doesn't care about the fans, or their enjoyment of the game that allows him to make millions, and I don't see any other way to slice it.

I really like Dame as a player, so to hear him say this is disappointing as hell.


With all due respect, I think (and hope) you are the only one interpreting Dame's words as an indictment against the fans.

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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#147 » by _qubik » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:27 pm

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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#148 » by MikeM » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:32 pm

Only the real scorers survived this. DeRozan's been getting hacked for years. Ain't nothing changed for him, that's why he's at the top.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#149 » by JonFromVA » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:35 pm

Sothron wrote:Dame, Trae and Harden are right. It isn't the goofy foul baiting that is the problem now. It is the legit drives to the basket getting hacked and NOT getting a foul call that is a problem. That is a foul. Period. That should always be called. You have to reward the aggressive player/team when they get hacked while shooting. If you don't the game gets reaaaaly boring when players realize they can just hack guys all game long and there's no penalty for it. That's not basketball either.


Missed calls are not a new phenomena.

LeBron used to point to his headband in disbelief like once a game that it could get smacked out of place on his head and the refs didn't see it and/or didn't whistle it.

Some teams always played defense under the assumption they would get away with committing far more fouls than the refs would ever whistle.

Until someone quantifies it by looking over game tape before/after the rules change, it just seems like a lot of whining.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#150 » by Edrees » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:41 pm

Sothron wrote:Dame, Trae and Harden are right. It isn't the goofy foul baiting that is the problem now. It is the legit drives to the basket getting hacked and NOT getting a foul call that is a problem. That is a foul. Period. That should always be called. You have to reward the aggressive player/team when they get hacked while shooting. If you don't the game gets reaaaaly boring when players realize they can just hack guys all game long and there's no penalty for it. That's not basketball either.


I think you guys are so used to seeing any type of contact getting called for a foul that you think minimal contact is getting "hacked"

i've seen Dwight Howard get what you call as being "hacked" with no calls for the last 5 years on nearly every play he is involved in. The only difference in the rules today is that they give the same treatment to star players.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#151 » by Sprewell4Three » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:49 pm

These NBA players harp too much on free throws. They don't have that same sentiment when they're out playing pick up ball or something.
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Post#152 » by CS707 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:58 pm

There is the specific rule change and also a general shift in the amount of physicality being allowed. A lot of these guards don’t have a point of reference for when the game was called differently so of course they’re going to think it’s not right. It’ll be interesting to see if it continues and how teams adapt. Could be a return of the big iso centric guards and bigs.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#153 » by HangTime » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:01 pm

Who's the most disrespected player on your team? The guys that are drawing contact, but the refs swallow their whistles on?

For the Raptors, I think Anuonby could easily get 8 FT per game, even with the way game is being called now. He's only averaging 2.3 FTA.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#154 » by Doranku » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:07 pm

The only thing unacceptable is his level of play this year after bitching and moaning about his team the entire offseason. Now he's bitching about the foul changes. Before he was bitching about not being an All-Star. It's always something with this dude. Bitch, bitch, bitch.
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Post#155 » by SerialChiller » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:13 pm

I really hope the NBA stays strong and doesn't listen to these players whining for the game to go back to that nonsense.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#156 » by DroseReturnChi » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:17 pm

meekrab wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:Are these the same refs from the Olympics...asking for a friend

If they're not, can we hire those guys?


dame is just making excuses. you caan sub in his family as ref and he will still be a chucker. one of the most overrated players in modern era bc he shoots like steph.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#157 » by Dominator83 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:26 pm

HumbleRen wrote:Bunch of cry babies lol. NBA has never been better.

Bringing physicality back has been fantastic.

I love it too. And it's not even really about physicality. It's about not rewarding shooters for jumping into guys.
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Re: Dame Lillard: “The way the game has been officiated is Unacceptable “ 

Post#158 » by itrsteve » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:27 pm

floppymoose wrote:Steph has no issue with the new rules. You would think a guy with a currygoat username would be on the same page with him.


My respect for Curry has increased 10-fold. I thought these rules were going to have a very significant impact on his effectiveness, particularly as defenses are honed in on him while Klay is out.

But somehow, almost inexplicably, he adapted and is having an absolute monster of a season. It's wild.

For every player that bitches just lifts the Curry legend even further up.
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Post#159 » by old skool » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:29 pm

It is telling that these star players feel the rule changes hurt them, without a single comment that the changes allow them to be much more effective defenders.

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Post#160 » by old skool » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:31 pm

HangTime wrote:Who's the most disrespected player on your team? The guys that are drawing contact, but the refs swallow their whistles on?

For the Raptors, I think Anuonby could easily get 8 FT per game, even with the way game is being called now. He's only averaging 2.3 FTA.
The rule changes have really hurt Anunoby. His FTs per game are down to 2.3. Last year he had a career high of 2.4.

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