Are the Warriors contenders?

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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#161 » by Doctor MJ » Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:38 pm

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WarriorGM wrote:At this rate it's just a matter of time before the detractors start whining it's so unfair that Curry is playing with Gary Payton II who makes the Warriors a stacked team.


Yep that's so unfair. It's when everybody were saying Klay & Green were bums but they win the chip then all of sudden Curry had too much help. Gotta love it. Can't make this stuff up.

Now Curry has Klay, Dray, Wiggins, GPII, Poole, etc, etc. Too much talent. Hand hat man the chip NOW!

Remember when everybody said Wiggins suck and nobody wanted him. Wiggins is a classic example of what happens when you play with a superstar who is empowering and not demeaning. But I will let haters carry on as they are clueless.

We always gave Tim Duncan so much credit just for the way he carried himself as a "superstar". Always putting the team before himself. It's time we give Curry that same respect.


It's really crazy how so many players remade or revitalized their careers playing for the Warriors. Obviously says a lot about Curry but also their system.

I’d use the word “culture” instead of “system” here at this point. Granted the two are intimately connected, but so often we think about a basketball system as something that is about Xs and Os, and the human element here is just huge.

I can’t help but think of Ted Lasso, which of course is no coincidence.

If this continues Kerr is my runaway pick for COY, with Curry, Green, and Iguodala almost deserving to share it with him.

It’s absolutely the most positive thing I see in the NBA right now, and I think it’s clear at this point that the Warriors are going to be a serious threat for the foreseeable future.


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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#162 » by Doctor MJ » Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:43 pm

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Karate Diop wrote:Contenders? lol... They're not even a lock for the playoffs...

Tough take right now. The Warriors are forever the underdog, even after being the greatest team in NBA history. Don't sleep on a team with a still prime Curry when he has help.


They've played well against very lackluster competition. Better than I thought, that's for sure, but let's see how they fare against the better teams in the league.

There’s no doubt that they have had a nice schedule and any hot takes saying they are going to dominate they are going to coast to titles are overreactions…but what is absolutely the case is that all the folks who managed to convince themselves that the Warriors would likely be worse than last year - which included much of the mainstream - have proven extremely far from the mark.

The skepticism that continues toward this core - which has been the most dominant core of the past 20 years - remains ubiquitous, bizarre, and fascinating.


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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#163 » by Doctor MJ » Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:47 pm

DCasey91 wrote:Even one eyed blind Warriors fans would tell you they’ve had the easiest schedule so far.

Green should be DPOY (should have been last year too imo).

Well, I think Green was DPOY-worthy last year but definitely sided with Gobert and still would.

This year though Green is the runaway favorite right now and he truly is cementing himself as one of the greatest defenders in history - and surely the only one of that class who had negative scouting reports (“tweener”) on his defense out of college.


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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#164 » by whatisacenter » Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:51 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:
Peregrine01 wrote:
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Yep that's so unfair. It's when everybody were saying Klay & Green were bums but they win the chip then all of sudden Curry had too much help. Gotta love it. Can't make this stuff up.

Now Curry has Klay, Dray, Wiggins, GPII, Poole, etc, etc. Too much talent. Hand hat man the chip NOW!

Remember when everybody said Wiggins suck and nobody wanted him. Wiggins is a classic example of what happens when you play with a superstar who is empowering and not demeaning. But I will let haters carry on as they are clueless.

We always gave Tim Duncan so much credit just for the way he carried himself as a "superstar". Always putting the team before himself. It's time we give Curry that same respect.


It's really crazy how so many players remade or revitalized their careers playing for the Warriors. Obviously says a lot about Curry but also their system.

I’d use the word “culture” instead of “system” here at this point. Granted the two are intimately connected, but so often we think about a basketball system as something that is about Xs and Os, and the human element here is just huge.

I can’t help but think of Ted Lasso, which of course is no coincidence.

If this continues Kerr is my runaway pick for COY, with Curry, Green, and Iguodala almost deserving to share it with him.

It’s absolutely the most positive thing I see in the NBA right now, and I think it’s clear at this point that the Warriors are going to be a serious threat for the foreseeable future.


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did you know that one of Kerr's sons was a writer for Ted Lasso?

Iquodala has been far more impactful than I ever imagined he would be. I thought he would be good to have on the bench to mentor the young guys but his impact on the court has been eye opening. Kerr always called him the adult in the room and you can see his settling presence when he is in the game. I like that the Warriors can rest either OPJ or Andre from time to time to keep them both fresh during the season and I hope that they can both be available for the playoffs.
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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#165 » by PurpleGreenGold » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:08 pm

It doesn’t look like they’ll ever play a game on the road again, so maybe?
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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#166 » by vanhalen26 » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:17 pm

Yea, age defying.
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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#167 » by timO » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:26 pm

are the wizards contenders?
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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#168 » by Madhouse » Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:40 pm

uh, yes?
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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#169 » by warriorschamps » Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:03 pm

Let's see the Warriors are the best offensive team in the league. They are the best defensive team in the league. They are the best passing team in the league. They are close to being the best shooting team in the league. They are pretty close to being the best rebounding team in the league. They the best coach in the league. Steph will be high in the MVP votes again. Same with Draymond in DPOY votes.

I'd so that would make them a contender.
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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#170 » by Doctor MJ » Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:10 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
Doctor MJ wrote:
Peregrine01 wrote:
It's really crazy how so many players remade or revitalized their careers playing for the Warriors. Obviously says a lot about Curry but also their system.

I’d use the word “culture” instead of “system” here at this point. Granted the two are intimately connected, but so often we think about a basketball system as something that is about Xs and Os, and the human element here is just huge.

I can’t help but think of Ted Lasso, which of course is no coincidence.

If this continues Kerr is my runaway pick for COY, with Curry, Green, and Iguodala almost deserving to share it with him.

It’s absolutely the most positive thing I see in the NBA right now, and I think it’s clear at this point that the Warriors are going to be a serious threat for the foreseeable future.


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did you know that one of Kerr's sons was a writer for Ted Lasso?

Iquodala has been far more impactful than I ever imagined he would be. I thought he would be good to have on the bench to mentor the young guys but his impact on the court has been eye opening. Kerr always called him the adult in the room and you can see his settling presence when he is in the game. I like that the Warriors can rest either OPJ or Andre from time to time to keep them both fresh during the season and I hope that they can both be available for the playoffs.


I did indeed. Now, I don't think they hired him for the purpose of asking him about his dad, but there's absolutely no doubt that the Steve Kerr is one of the key modern examples of Lasso-type coaching culture (along with Pete Carroll in football).

On Iggy, I feel like he brings a really nice balance to Dray's intensity. If Iggy's body falls off any time soon, they need to keep him on as a coach.
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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#171 » by Warriorfan » Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:23 am

Warriors have the highest ceiling. Best record one of the easiest schedules in NBA potentially adding starting C and SG Plus whatever lottery picks Moody, Kuminga add.
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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#172 » by nfmos » Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:13 am

Doctor MJ wrote:
Peregrine01 wrote:
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Yep that's so unfair. It's when everybody were saying Klay & Green were bums but they win the chip then all of sudden Curry had too much help. Gotta love it. Can't make this stuff up.

Now Curry has Klay, Dray, Wiggins, GPII, Poole, etc, etc. Too much talent. Hand hat man the chip NOW!

Remember when everybody said Wiggins suck and nobody wanted him. Wiggins is a classic example of what happens when you play with a superstar who is empowering and not demeaning. But I will let haters carry on as they are clueless.

We always gave Tim Duncan so much credit just for the way he carried himself as a "superstar". Always putting the team before himself. It's time we give Curry that same respect.


It's really crazy how so many players remade or revitalized their careers playing for the Warriors. Obviously says a lot about Curry but also their system.

I’d use the word “culture” instead of “system” here at this point. Granted the two are intimately connected, but so often we think about a basketball system as something that is about Xs and Os, and the human element here is just huge.

I can’t help but think of Ted Lasso, which of course is no coincidence.

If this continues Kerr is my runaway pick for COY, with Curry, Green, and Iguodala almost deserving to share it with him.

It’s absolutely the most positive thing I see in the NBA right now, and I think it’s clear at this point that the Warriors are going to be a serious threat for the foreseeable future.


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Culture is the perfect description. Remember Kerr played under Lute Olsen, Phil Jackson, Popovich, and Lenny Wilkens, and kind of brought a little of each of them to this team, and even went outside of basketball to coaches like Pete Carroll. But in general we were trying to build a culture like the Spurs where everyone was held accountable and players could come and go but the machine still ran well. But just like that worked because of the attitude and work ethic of Duncan, it worked with us because Curry has that same team first mentality.

But i think honestly that the credit even needs to go higher, to Lacob. We were trash before he came in, and he set really high expectations and basically said we were willing to spend any amount of money to meet them. He was willing to spend money for example for someone like West to come in and help build the foundation for the organization going forward. One reason he got rid of Jackson because he wanted him to go and hire the best assistants possible and instead Jackson just kept his loyal buddies who werent that great. Also Lacob hired and promoted Bob Meyers, who like him were longtime Warriors fans, and Meyers was like Kerr, a great communicator without a huge ego who had lots of player and team connections because of being an agent before. Lacob set an environment where it wasnt one GM that made all the decisions, but all the decisions were really decided on as a team which lots of people getting input. Lots of fans gave him crap for the Monta trade, but that was EXACTLY the culture and roster change that created this dynasty where it freed up Curry and got Klay on the court while bringing over a smart big man in Bogut.

And also as far as culture, i love that Lacob has brought back a lot of players to work for us that were fan favorites, like Mullin, Zaza, Livingston, Barbosa,etc, and brings back players like Jrich last night as guests.

Thats why also i hope we dont trade Wiseman, Kuminga or any of the young guys that have potential. For us to still have a chance to compete for the title, while having our young guys being taught by Draymond, Iggy, Steph and Klay, is just a great opportunity to keep the franchise competitive for years to come.
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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#173 » by Warriorfan » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:20 am

Warriors best game yet against a team playing well

Curry has yet reached usual shooting pct
Warriors maybe getting their starting C and SG back from injury
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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#174 » by Jfh20 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:56 am

there absolutely loaded with talent. Its insane. Bob myers has to be one of the best GMs in the league.
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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#175 » by floppymoose » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:57 am

The Bulls are a very good team and on a different night they can beat the Warriors. Tonight was one of those nights where no one was beating Curry. He has those nights where he is just the complete player, getting his teammates easy looks, playing good defense, and hitting his shots.
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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#176 » by GunnerWRX » Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:16 am

Interesting during the summer, many were saying the Warriors couldn't sign anyone but Bjelica, OPJ, and Iguodala, because no other teams wanted those guys.

Now everyone is saying the Warriors got all the talent and are a deep team.

The trash the Warriors signed during the summer suddenly smells good.
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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#177 » by DroseReturnChi » Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:18 am

im not still convinced warriors beating up weak ass teams. if they beat bkn, cleveland in a row, i will concede they are a title team.
the hottest teams warriors faced none of them.
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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#178 » by xdrta+ » Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:24 am

DroseReturnChi wrote:im not still convinced warriors beating up weak ass teams. if they beat bkn, cleveland in a row, i will concede they are a title team.
the hottest teams warriors faced none of them.


There are 70 games to go. Whether they win or lose those two games means nothing, let alone if they are a title team or not.
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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#179 » by TwoStarz » Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:48 am

xdrta+ wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:im not still convinced warriors beating up weak ass teams. if they beat bkn, cleveland in a row, i will concede they are a title team.
the hottest teams warriors faced none of them.


There are 70 games to go. Whether they win or lose those two games means nothing, let alone if they are a title team or not.

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Re: Are the Warriors contenders? 

Post#180 » by KrAzY3 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:31 am

Obviously they are. Curry has been there before, this is clearly an improved supporting cast, and they are missing two key pieces.

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