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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#901 » by robillionaire » Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:59 pm

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Thanks

That state of affairs substack newsletter is a good summary to feel where things are heading. There will be a wave sometime soon.

I want my booster shot. Getting impatient on the CDC approval for under 65 to get them. They approved children recently so hoping that decision is pending


If you just want the protection of a booster, you don't need CDC approval, just someone with a syringe full of vaccine who's willing to stick it in your arm.

I got J&J back in the beginning of March because that's what was available and at the time appointments were hard to get. Five months later I just made an appointment at a local pharmacy and got a full course of Moderna.

The advantage of waiting for approval is that you can officially add the booster to your vaccine card, since "fully vaccinated" status may at some point be redefined to include a booster shot.

I will probably get another booster after at least 6 months (I'm already in an eligible category), even if just to have it on my vaccine card that I've been boosted, since I had to get a separate card for my bootleg second vaccination. I have zero safety qualms about this, especially with the Moderna booster that is a lower dose than the initial course of shots.


OK, thanks for that. It is helpful and I will consider that. I plan on leaving the country by sometime next Summer so I could conceivably get a shot now and then before I leave to fulfill the full vaccination status. I do think approval for the booster is pending though so it may be a week or two away.


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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#902 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:19 pm

robillionaire wrote:
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If you just want the protection of a booster, you don't need CDC approval, just someone with a syringe full of vaccine who's willing to stick it in your arm.

I got J&J back in the beginning of March because that's what was available and at the time appointments were hard to get. Five months later I just made an appointment at a local pharmacy and got a full course of Moderna.

The advantage of waiting for approval is that you can officially add the booster to your vaccine card, since "fully vaccinated" status may at some point be redefined to include a booster shot.

I will probably get another booster after at least 6 months (I'm already in an eligible category), even if just to have it on my vaccine card that I've been boosted, since I had to get a separate card for my bootleg second vaccination. I have zero safety qualms about this, especially with the Moderna booster that is a lower dose than the initial course of shots.


OK, thanks for that. It is helpful and I will consider that. I plan on leaving the country by sometime next Summer so I could conceivably get a shot now and then before I leave to fulfill the full vaccination status. I do think approval for the booster is pending though so it may be a week or two away.


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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#903 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:54 pm

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robillionaire wrote:
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OK, thanks for that. It is helpful and I will consider that. I plan on leaving the country by sometime next Summer so I could conceivably get a shot now and then before I leave to fulfill the full vaccination status. I do think approval for the booster is pending though so it may be a week or two away.


congrats on the leaving


7-8 months away so toast me when I’m on my way outta here

Only thing that could keep me here is a very high paying gig, but my plans are to spend next Summer in Sweden and then go to somewhere new


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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#904 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:46 am

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congrats on the leaving


7-8 months away so toast me when I’m on my way outta here

Only thing that could keep me here is a very high paying gig, but my plans are to spend next Summer in Sweden and then go to somewhere new


Beware of any large wooden boxes with airholes with a Long Island return address.


Beg pardon, but what prompted that?
Is that a Wingo mafia reference?
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#905 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:34 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
7-8 months away so toast me when I’m on my way outta here

Only thing that could keep me here is a very high paying gig, but my plans are to spend next Summer in Sweden and then go to somewhere new


Beware of any large wooden boxes with airholes with a Long Island return address.


Beg pardon, but what prompted that?
Is that a Wingo mafia reference?


More like Wingo shipping himself to Sweden to chase blondes!
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#906 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:36 am

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#907 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:01 pm

Wow, this is insane. Sounds like Trump literally set up Pence and his staff to be locked out of their offices so they could be torn apart by the mob they knew was going to storm the Capitol

This keeps getting worse every week. Treason charges against Trump are getting more probable all the time. (Sure, it will take time, but how can anyone read stuff like this and not understand all of the dots are being connected and it is not being swept away).

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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/11/9/2063310/-VP-Mike-Pence-And-Staff-Locked-Out-Of-Capitol-Offices-On-Jan-6-Access-Badges-Had-Been-Deactivated

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-pence-capitol-riot-photos_n_6189da2ce4b055e47d7ee53a
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#908 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:34 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Wow, this is insane. Sounds like Trump literally set up Pence and his staff to be locked out of their offices so they could be torn apart by the mob they knew was going to storm the Capitol

This keeps getting worse every week. Treason charges against Trump are getting more probable all the time. (Sure, it will take time, but how can anyone read stuff like this and not understand all of the dots are being connected and it is not being swept away).

Read on Twitter


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/11/9/2063310/-VP-Mike-Pence-And-Staff-Locked-Out-Of-Capitol-Offices-On-Jan-6-Access-Badges-Had-Been-Deactivated

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-pence-capitol-riot-photos_n_6189da2ce4b055e47d7ee53a


Man, we keep waiting for the other shoe to drop and we're still waiting. I didn't read the other tweets but, if this is true, then I would think that it should be traceable to the culprit because access to that program should be extremely limited and verifiable.

As has been the case over the last 5 years, we're going to continue to get evidence in drips and drabs until that other shoe finally drops. "Car 54 Where Are You?" :lol:
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#909 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:52 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Wow, this is insane. Sounds like Trump literally set up Pence and his staff to be locked out of their offices so they could be torn apart by the mob they knew was going to storm the Capitol

This keeps getting worse every week. Treason charges against Trump are getting more probable all the time. (Sure, it will take time, but how can anyone read stuff like this and not understand all of the dots are being connected and it is not being swept away).

Read on Twitter


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/11/9/2063310/-VP-Mike-Pence-And-Staff-Locked-Out-Of-Capitol-Offices-On-Jan-6-Access-Badges-Had-Been-Deactivated

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-pence-capitol-riot-photos_n_6189da2ce4b055e47d7ee53a


Man, we keep waiting for the other shoe to drop and we're still waiting. I didn't read the other tweets but, if this is true, then I would think that it should be traceable to the culprit because access to that program should be extremely limited and verifiable.

As has been the case over the last 5 years, we're going to continue to get evidence in drips and drabs until that other shoe finally drops. "Car 54 Where Are You?" :lol:


The first shoe dropped this week so to speak with Bannon's indictment by the DOJ for contempt of Congress. He is supposed to be arrainged tomorrow.

Here is the list of those being summoned by the Jan. 6th Committee. John McEntree may the one responsible for Pence's staff's card keys being turned off

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And Schiff said they are referring Meadows to the DOJ just like they did with Bannon. This time the indictment should move faster so expect Meadows to be arrested unless he flips probably later this month

Look at it this way, the longer it goes the worse it will be for the Trump mafia. It will mean the case will be stronger. If I had any doubts about this happening then I'd be impatient, but I have no doubt. This is happening

P.S. Stands to reason the people in the right column are considered bigger fish as per the working up the food chain m.o. we're seeing by the Jan. 6 Committee and the DOJ. In that light, McEntree being the last on the list points to him having key info and having participated at a high level. Thus, the Pence story is epic conspiracy level stuff and by then they should have enough ducks in a row to confirm that narrative from multiple sources.

P.P.S. Trump did get a last second appeal effort granted on Thursday right before the Friday release of the National Archives to the committee. This is Trump's last stand on the executive privilege defense which has not fared too well so far. The judge in that case has said they will rule quickly so all of the info (including the photos of Pence's team referred to above) should be release by the end of the year
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#910 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:31 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Wow, this is insane. Sounds like Trump literally set up Pence and his staff to be locked out of their offices so they could be torn apart by the mob they knew was going to storm the Capitol

This keeps getting worse every week. Treason charges against Trump are getting more probable all the time. (Sure, it will take time, but how can anyone read stuff like this and not understand all of the dots are being connected and it is not being swept away).

Read on Twitter


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/11/9/2063310/-VP-Mike-Pence-And-Staff-Locked-Out-Of-Capitol-Offices-On-Jan-6-Access-Badges-Had-Been-Deactivated

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-pence-capitol-riot-photos_n_6189da2ce4b055e47d7ee53a


Man, we keep waiting for the other shoe to drop and we're still waiting. I didn't read the other tweets but, if this is true, then I would think that it should be traceable to the culprit because access to that program should be extremely limited and verifiable.

As has been the case over the last 5 years, we're going to continue to get evidence in drips and drabs until that other shoe finally drops. "Car 54 Where Are You?" :lol:


The first shoe dropped this week so to speak with Bannon's indictment by the DOJ for contempt of Congress. He is supposed to be arrainged tomorrow.

Here is the list of those being summoned by the Jan. 6th Committee. John McEntree may the one responsible for Pence's staff's card keys being turned off

Read on Twitter


And Schiff said they are referring Meadows to the DOJ just like they did with Bannon. This time the indictment should move faster so expect Meadows to be arrested unless he flips probably later this month

Look at it this way, the longer it goes the worse it will be for the Trump mafia. It will mean the case will be stronger. If I had any doubts about this happening then I'd be impatient, but I have no doubt. This is happening

P.S. Stands to reason the people in the right column are considered bigger fish as per the working up the food chain m.o. we're seeing by the Jan. 6 Committee and the DOJ. In that light, McEntree being the last on the list points to him having key info and having participated at a high level. Thus, the Pence story is epic conspiracy level stuff and by then they should have enough ducks in a row to confirm that narrative from multiple sources.

P.P.S. Trump did get a last second appeal effort granted on Thursday right before the Friday release of the National Archives to the committee. This is Trump's last stand on the executive privilege defense which has not fared too well so far. The judge in that case has said they will rule quickly so all of the info (including the photos of Pence's team referred to above) should be release by the end of the year


I think Bannon is ready to do his time for contempt. Don't quote me on this but I believe the max is one-year on contempt of Congress.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#912 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:07 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Wow, this is insane. Sounds like Trump literally set up Pence and his staff to be locked out of their offices so they could be torn apart by the mob they knew was going to storm the Capitol

This keeps getting worse every week. Treason charges against Trump are getting more probable all the time. (Sure, it will take time, but how can anyone read stuff like this and not understand all of the dots are being connected and it is not being swept away).

Read on Twitter


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/11/9/2063310/-VP-Mike-Pence-And-Staff-Locked-Out-Of-Capitol-Offices-On-Jan-6-Access-Badges-Had-Been-Deactivated

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-pence-capitol-riot-photos_n_6189da2ce4b055e47d7ee53a


I wish this would mean something might happen, but nothing will happen. I'm back to being pessimistic. I know the "wheels of justice turn slowly" and all that, but, sorry, other than handfuls of people here and there, our society is too corrupted and the government within it, for this to matter.

It should matter. A lot. In another era, maybe even just 10 years ago, or 25, or 40, maybe. And maybe YEARS from now. I mean, 30 odd years and a great depression later, the New Deal reversed some of abuses of the Gilded Age.

The country lacks the will. Half the country is in thrall to Cheeto Jesus because his makes their anger feel good. I mean, they have some legitimate things to be angry about. Unfortunately, they tend to express that anger in racism...This other than the dead enders who are just racist and aren't going to change.

A lot of the left is feckless. Certainly the leadership. They are scared of the right and more concerned with polling numbers than courage or virtue or justice. Not all. There are a handful of righteous and courageous politicians. It must be lonely for them.

Years of neo-liberal Chicago economics bullsh*t has convinced most of the middle class that they too can be a millionaire some day, even though most of them are more proles than they care to admit.

Years of right wing propaganda have convinced most people that any signs of protest or any value in the government commonweal is wild eyed communism.

Longstanding economic hardship has further exposed the cracks that have always existed in American society and most of the West's democracies. The Chinese and Russians etc are using our freedom and social media to play the populace like fiddles. Again, the cracks have to exist, but the lack of education and sophistication of the populace makes them easy prey for a lot of it. And no, college doesn't necessarily help people.

The mainstream media doesn't help because it's run as a business first and journalism last, so when nutty right wingers complain about it, there is a KERNAL of truth. As a result of living in a propaganda blizzard, both internal and external, we've entered the post truth phase of this country's existence. It's the exact result you'd want if you are a foreign power, or a political party seeking to drive voting based on emotions. It's sickening.

The democrats don't know how to counter message all the right wing bullsh*t. Don't get me wrong. The Dems and left have their bullsh*t too. Just a less of it and less shrill. But they are totally inept at selling what they do better or different than the right. I guess it's kind of hard when the left/right aren't THAT different. Even with all the nuttiness, that's just the right amping up the usual social grievances to herd votes. The left does it too, just not to the degree the right is playing with fire.

Even after this rant, I hope you are right. I kind of go back and forth. I'm not that optimistic.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#913 » by j4remi » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:19 pm

I just want to see Merrick Garland actually do something about all the subpoenas being ignored. I'll stop being a nihilist about any consequences when Garland grows a pair...
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Post#914 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:21 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:The ball is rolling now. Refuse to testify under oath, go to jail. Pretty easy to understand. Sorry Kayleigh!

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/12/steve-bannon-indicted-for-defying-jan-6-committee-investigation-521177


No one has been jailed or faced consequence for contempt of congress for nearly 40 years. 1982 was the last time.
I'm glad congress is asserting some of it's authority.
Not so sure this means much in the case of Bannon.
I'll try to find the link that indicated the 1982 date.
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Post#915 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:23 pm

j4remi wrote:I just want to see Merrick Garland actually do something about all the subpoenas being ignored. I'll stop being a nihilist about any consequences when Garland grows a pair...


I just posted that he did. Bannon was indicted
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Post#916 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:24 pm

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Clyde_Style wrote:The ball is rolling now. Refuse to testify under oath, go to jail. Pretty easy to understand. Sorry Kayleigh!

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/12/steve-bannon-indicted-for-defying-jan-6-committee-investigation-521177


No one has been jailed or faced consequence for contempt of congress for nearly 40 years. 1982 was the last time.
I'm glad congress is asserting some of it's authority.
Not so sure this means much in the case of Bannon.
I'll try to find the link that indicated the 1982 date.


Paul Manafort is serving 47 months in prison for messing around. It was not contempt of Congress, but if you don’t think Bannon is going to do time if he doesn’t do an about face then you’re just letting your cynicism talk, not the facts of the situation. He was indicted
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Post#917 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:26 pm

And Mark Meadows will be indicted soon as well

And I don’t see how the horde of insurrectionists sitting in jail cells indicates this is not happening. Come on
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Post#918 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:30 pm

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I live in northern Va.
I don't usually watch much TV, but with the old man here, it was on a lot, which meant local news. Not sure if these are NewsMax stations or what, but suddenly there was a f*cking barrage of news on the educational tiffs coming out of Loudon county, a really affluent county, or parts of it. There was a story about a girl who got raped by a trans kid which they tried to turn into a "bathroom" issue and the wayward school board, but it seemed like it could have been date regret. Or date rape. Apparently the girl and the other individual were in the same bathroom by mutual agreement, initially. Before that, there was a lot of noise about...actually, I'm not sure. It might have been right to "get back to school" or "the curriculum" in the summer.

Loudon might have been having it's own county issues, but the amount of coverage and how, fairly plainly seemed orchestrated.
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Post#919 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:32 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:The ball is rolling now. Refuse to testify under oath, go to jail. Pretty easy to understand. Sorry Kayleigh!

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/12/steve-bannon-indicted-for-defying-jan-6-committee-investigation-521177


No one has been jailed or faced consequence for contempt of congress for nearly 40 years. 1982 was the last time.
I'm glad congress is asserting some of it's authority.
Not so sure this means much in the case of Bannon.
I'll try to find the link that indicated the 1982 date.


Paul Manafort is serving 47 months in prison for messing around. It was not contempt of Congress, but if you don’t think Bannon is going to do time if he doesn’t do an about face then you’re just letting your cynicism talk, not the facts of the situation. He was indicted


Indicted doesn't meant time.
The level that Manafort f*cked around he should have been in for life.
Manafort and Bannon are different situations.
I hope I'm wrong. I doubt it.
I recall we were fairly convinced Trump et all were going down multiple times.
Maybe this is finally the time.
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Post#920 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:35 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:And Mark Meadows will be indicted soon as well

And I don’t see how the horde of insurrectionists sitting in jail cells indicates this is not happening. Come on


Jailing a bunch of trespassing scrubs isn't the same as getting to the top of the leadership.
I'm glad they are in jail and the message it sends.
I'm not 100% convinced it means the connection will be established between the top end of the insurrectionists (the ones who were truly organized) and the Trumpists in government. I don't doubt it exists.
Bet "just enough" doubt gets created that no one important catches it.
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