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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#881 » by dcstanley » Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:35 am

the 2019-2020 roster + this year's version of THT (provided he can maintain around this level of play in his third season) would probably be the best team in the league. Ironically, he was the secondary ball-handler Lebron was clamoring for. No point in trading all of your depth when guys like Nunn/THT are decent enough of playmakers to soften Lebron's load.
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#882 » by Mos_Heat » Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:52 am

nzahir wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:They should move Nunn, he does nothing for them. Another small combo guard

Why move Nunn?

He will be a solid shooter who can create a bit and plays better D than Monk

I would move Monk

Playoff locks:
Lebron, AD, Russ (sadly), THT, Nunn, Dwight

Likely, but minutes heavily depends on matchup:
Melo and Ariza

Maybes:
Reaves, Ellington, Bazemore, Monk

No way:
DJ, Rondo, and Avery (assuming he will be cut)

Core playoff guard rotation:
Russ, THT, Nunn and 1-2 of Bazemore, Reaves, Ellington, Monk

Ellington is a guy though who may legit be useful, but we need a bigger sample size of his defense

Because it's easier to find a decent role player for 6 millions rather than 2.5. Besides that, they don't need his shot creation, they need strictly 3nD 6'6+ type body
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#883 » by nzahir » Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:14 am

Mos_Heat wrote:
nzahir wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:They should move Nunn, he does nothing for them. Another small combo guard

Why move Nunn?

He will be a solid shooter who can create a bit and plays better D than Monk

I would move Monk

Playoff locks:
Lebron, AD, Russ (sadly), THT, Nunn, Dwight

Likely, but minutes heavily depends on matchup:
Melo and Ariza

Maybes:
Reaves, Ellington, Bazemore, Monk

No way:
DJ, Rondo, and Avery (assuming he will be cut)

Core playoff guard rotation:
Russ, THT, Nunn and 1-2 of Bazemore, Reaves, Ellington, Monk

Ellington is a guy though who may legit be useful, but we need a bigger sample size of his defense

Because it's easier to find a decent role player for 6 millions rather than 2.5. Besides that, they don't need his shot creation, they need strictly 3nD 6'6+ type body

Nunn isn't a defensive liability though and you still need guards

He is a great catch and shoot guy and you still want creators

Monk and maybe even Ellington may not even be playable come playoff time against a lot of matchups

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You are right about the salaries, but not sure I would move Nunn unless we really think Ellington can almost be Nunn on D and won't get picked on come playoff time

I would move Monk and package with Rondo/DJ or even Bazemore if needed

Russ to OKC with our 2027 1st is probably the only way we can move him this year if we want anything of value (the trade exception). Doubt that happens
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#884 » by frica » Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:41 am

Another decent shooting night for Carmelo.
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Post#885 » by Slava » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:20 am

donnieme wrote:THT beasted tonight. Caruso too just concluded a legit DPOY level performance against PG13 and the Clippers. I'm not as harsh as others over their choosing THT but it should never have been a pick one situation and I'm surprised Laker faithfuls have so much tolerance for the whole situation. Both players were your franchise's amazing finds and it must be irritating to see other teams benefit from it. Although I do think the Westbrook fit might have also factored into the decision and it wasn't just financial.


We traded or gave away a lot of our finds, as our scouting department is excellent in finding value in late 1st and 2nd rounds. Sometimes, its out of necessity to find cap space, other times, its just hard to keep all of them once they mature beyond their initial deals.
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#886 » by Mos_Heat » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:54 am

nzahir wrote:
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Mos_Heat wrote:
nzahir wrote:Why move Nunn?

He will be a solid shooter who can create a bit and plays better D than Monk

I would move Monk

Playoff locks:
Lebron, AD, Russ (sadly), THT, Nunn, Dwight

Likely, but minutes heavily depends on matchup:
Melo and Ariza

Maybes:
Reaves, Ellington, Bazemore, Monk

No way:
DJ, Rondo, and Avery (assuming he will be cut)

Core playoff guard rotation:
Russ, THT, Nunn and 1-2 of Bazemore, Reaves, Ellington, Monk

Ellington is a guy though who may legit be useful, but we need a bigger sample size of his defense

Because it's easier to find a decent role player for 6 millions rather than 2.5. Besides that, they don't need his shot creation, they need strictly 3nD 6'6+ type body

Nunn isn't a defensive liability though and you still need guards

He is a great catch and shoot guy and you still want creators

Monk and maybe even Ellington may not even be playable come playoff time against a lot of matchups

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You are right about the salaries, but not sure I would move Nunn unless we really think Ellington can almost be Nunn on D and won't get picked on come playoff time

I would move Monk and package with Rondo/DJ or even Bazemore if needed

Russ to OKC with our 2027 1st is probably the only way we can move him this year if we want anything of value (the trade exception). Doubt that happens

I know that he's decent defensively but they desperately need a big body, especially with the way Bazemore looks. Even if Ariza gets back to his previous form, they can't rely on a wing rotation of 37yo Lebron, 37yo Melo and 36yo Ariza
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Post#887 » by trickshot » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:49 pm

Slava wrote:
donnieme wrote:THT beasted tonight. Caruso too just concluded a legit DPOY level performance against PG13 and the Clippers. I'm not as harsh as others over their choosing THT but it should never have been a pick one situation and I'm surprised Laker faithfuls have so much tolerance for the whole situation. Both players were your franchise's amazing finds and it must be irritating to see other teams benefit from it. Although I do think the Westbrook fit might have also factored into the decision and it wasn't just financial.


We traded or gave away a lot of our finds, as our scouting department is excellent in finding value in late 1st and 2nd rounds. Sometimes, its out of necessity to find cap space, other times, its just hard to keep all of them once they mature beyond their initial deals.

You lot thought you could hide one of the better farm systems in the league but the jig is up. Can't have teams building contenders off of late 1sts and 2nds. Reaves is looking due a nice bag as well. Cuban, Masai, Gilbert, they'd all look especially nice beside Luka. You know what to do.
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#888 » by nzahir » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:02 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:
nzahir wrote:
Spoiler:
Mos_Heat wrote:Because it's easier to find a decent role player for 6 millions rather than 2.5. Besides that, they don't need his shot creation, they need strictly 3nD 6'6+ type body

Nunn isn't a defensive liability though and you still need guards

He is a great catch and shoot guy and you still want creators

Monk and maybe even Ellington may not even be playable come playoff time against a lot of matchups

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https://i.redd.it/sj1i4v419ef71.jpg

You are right about the salaries, but not sure I would move Nunn unless we really think Ellington can almost be Nunn on D and won't get picked on come playoff time

I would move Monk and package with Rondo/DJ or even Bazemore if needed

Russ to OKC with our 2027 1st is probably the only way we can move him this year if we want anything of value (the trade exception). Doubt that happens

I know that he's decent defensively but they desperately need a big body, especially with the way Bazemore looks. Even if Ariza gets back to his previous form, they can't rely on a wing rotation of 37yo Lebron, 37yo Melo and 36yo Ariza

You don't think Monk, 2nds, and an expiring like Rondo/DJ fetch a bench guy?

Danuel House?

Who are you even eyeying with Nunn?
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#889 » by zimpy27 » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:53 pm

One thing seems to have gone relatively unnoticed here.

This Lakers team may have the most isolation offense players of any team ever. I believe this is an intentional strategy. These guys don't need spacing to get into their offense, they just need to avoid double teams.

LeBron, Davis, Westbrook, THT, Melo, Monk, Nunn, Rondo
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#890 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:54 am

Yes, that's the reason to go small: so you can feature 36-year-old Carmelo Anthony in the mid-post while AD chills in the dunker spot.
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Post#891 » by MisterHibachi » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:03 am

Bulls defense is really good. Lakers really can't get to the rim cleanly or even get AD a good catch
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Post#892 » by MisterHibachi » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:05 am

Posting up AD clearly isn't working today. Gotta let Russ and THT cook with AD as a screener
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#893 » by homecourtloss » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:09 am

Bulls: 5/8 from three, 4/4 FTs
Lakers: 3/13 from three (pretty good looks), 0/0 FTs

8 point deficit not bad considering but the implosion can happen at any time.

Avery Bradley has been really bad and has to be removed from the lineup. You know who would be good? Caruso but I guess he wasn’t worth $10 million per year. SMH
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Post#894 » by MisterHibachi » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:13 am

Why take Russ out when he's playing so well? Who knows what he'll be like when he re enters.
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Post#895 » by Fadeaway_J » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:17 am

MisterHibachi wrote:Why take Russ out when he's playing so well? Who knows what he'll be like when he re enters.

You weren't missing the Rondo show? :noway:
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Post#896 » by homecourtloss » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:23 am

Derozoan has been a net negative player literally his entire career and now is playing defense and hitting threes. This is absolutely wild.
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Post#897 » by MisterHibachi » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:28 am

Both AD and Vogel should be embarrassed that basic double teams are simply just taking him out of the game.
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#898 » by TheGOATRises007 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:32 am

Westbrook pulling a Harden lmfao

Not sure I've ever seen him do that before.
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Post#899 » by homecourtloss » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:37 am

THT has looked good in his two games. Westbrook looks more explosive tonight. The difference in the game is open three point shooting, i.e., Bulls are 9-16, and the Lakers are 4-17.
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Re: The LeBron James - 21-22 Regular Season Thread 

Post#900 » by Baski » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:55 am

Lakers could've really used Lonzo and Caruso this season

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