Hoopshype's "20 Greatest PFs ever" list

GSWFan1994 · Post #1 » by **GSWFan1994** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:26 pm

Worth a read: link.

They also published the PGs, SGs and SFs lists, you can find them at the link above.

Here's the list:

1. Tim Duncan
2. Karl Malone
3. Kevin Garnett
4. Dirk Nowitzki
5. Giannis Antetokounmpo
6. Charles Barkley
7. Bob Pettit
8. Elvin Hayes
9. Anthony Davis
10. Kevin McHale
11. Pau Gasol
12. Dolph Schayes
13. Dennis Rodman
14. Draymond Green
15. Chris Webber
16. Jerry Lucas
17. Bobby Jones
18. Dave DeBusschere
19. Rasheed Wallace
20. LaMarcus Aldridge

Some brief commentary from me:

- Good list at the top 4/5, you can't really escape from these names

- Will Giannis reach number 1 when it's all said & done? I think he has a good chance to reach 2, dunno about 1.

- Pettit & Hayes have become underrated over time.

- Davis seems extremely high at first glance, though if you look at the names after him, he's somewhat properly placed.

- Bobby Jones over Dave DeBusschere is plain wrong, and I say that as a Jones absolute, inconditional fan.

- No Chris Bosh is surprising & confusing.

Cheers & discuss.

timO · Post #2 » by **timO** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:27 pm

Green? wtf?

Bornstellar · Post #3 » by **Bornstellar** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:27 pm

I'd probably put Malone at 5 and move everyone above that a spot up, and I'd switch Davis with Gasol. Not bad otherwise

Actually I'd put Dirk #2 and then Giannis at #3, KG at #4

Lockdown504090 · Post #4 » by **Lockdown504090** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:27 pm

dont see any reason to not have freak at 3rd at least. If rasheed wallace gave a rats ass about his legacy or all time anything he could have easily been where pau is. guy was so talented.

Sothron · Post #5 » by **Sothron** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:28 pm

They have Pettit and McHale way too low. Dirk was nowhere near as good as them.

UcanUwill · Post #6 » by **UcanUwill** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:29 pm

I heard Kevin Love is better than 99% of these guys

Eric Bieniemy · Post #7 » by **Eric Bieniemy** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:34 pm

Larry Bird should be one.

eminence · Post #8 » by **eminence** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:37 pm

Schayes is the one that stands out to me as notably underrated. I'd probably have him #8. I'm lower on Malone than that as well, I'd probably have him #4. Giannis behind Barkley (maybe even Pettit) for now, though closing.

wojoaderge · Post #9 » by **wojoaderge** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:38 pm

Pettit should be top 5 and Schayes top 10. But not bad actually

matt6715 · Post #10 » by **matt6715** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:38 pm

Somebody call JJ Reddick since Love isnt on here

My top 5 personally:

1. Duncan
2. Dirk (for now)
3. Giannis (will pass Dirk with nothing other than longevity at this point)
4. KG
5. Malone

Wolfgang630 · Post #11 » by **Wolfgang630** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:39 pm

Pretty good list

Post #12 » by **Texas Chuck** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:39 pm

timO wrote:Green? wtf?

Should be higher, I agree.

BoatsNZones · Post #13 » by **BoatsNZones** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:45 pm

timO wrote:Green? wtf?

Casual.

Solid list overall.

bbalnation · Post #14 » by **bbalnation** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:45 pm

Are they hoping Bosh responds, since hes retired and he has replied to disrespectful stuff before?

I mean, how else do you explain putting a guy like Bobby Jones, who averaged 14 and 9 in his peak, and 12 and 6 over his career?

If you want to pay homage to the people of the past, do so. But don't make a mockery of it in hopes for clicks (Hoopshype, not OP).

GSWFan1994 · Post #15 » by **GSWFan1994** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:47 pm

bbalnation wrote:Are they hoping Bosh responds, since hes been known to one to do so?

I mean, how else do you explain putting a guy like Bobby Jones, who averaged 14 and 9 in his peak, and 12 and 6 over his career?

If you want to pay homage to the people of the past, do so. But don't make a mockery of it in hopes for clicks (Hoopshype, not OP).

Maybe they considered Bosh as a C (the C's list is not out yet).

Whopper_Sr · Post #16 » by **Whopper_Sr** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:47 pm

Duncan is a center..

bbalnation · Post #17 » by **bbalnation** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:49 pm

GSWFan1994 wrote:
bbalnation wrote:Are they hoping Bosh responds, since hes been known to one to do so?

I mean, how else do you explain putting a guy like Bobby Jones, who averaged 14 and 9 in his peak, and 12 and 6 over his career?

If you want to pay homage to the people of the past, do so. But don't make a mockery of it in hopes for clicks (Hoopshype, not OP).

Maybe they considered Bosh as a C (the C's list is not out yet).

Oof maybe you're right. I was quick to judge. Thanks.

GSWFan1994 · Post #18 » by **GSWFan1994** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:52 pm

bbalnation wrote:Oof maybe you're right. I was quick to judge. Thanks.

I hope I'm wrong though, because I certainly don't consider Bosh as a C.

Cheers.

celticfan42487 · Post #19 » by **celticfan42487** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:55 pm

Wow that's actually a fantastic list.

I think Dirk should be below Barkley and Greek Freak but I get one doesn't have a ring and the other is still young so out of respect they like to wait. So I get why out of respect they'd put Dirk that high.

celticfan42487 · Post #20 » by **celticfan42487** » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:56 pm

Whopper_Sr wrote:Duncan is a center..

Hmm yeah if they're going to list Bosh as a Center they sure as **** have to list Duncan as one lol

How would you rate the list?