Ruzious wrote: lastemp3ror wrote:
Ruzious wrote:True that I'm not willing to give up 5 more years to have a better chance to find and develop a talented QB
And the reason you had to wait 30 years for another super bowl caliber team is due to this train of thought. Snyder has never fully committed to a rebuild. Rebuilds don't happen in one year or two years sometimes. If you listen to Rivera in his first season, we were rebuilding until halfway into the season. Then suddenly we were not anymore. Then this season, he again has said both. This team never puts both feet into rebuilding and thus, we are where we are. Perennially either mediocre and make the playoffs or just plain bad.
That's not true. There's one reason they've failed the last 30 years - and that's simply terrible leadership - with the owner being behind it all. Whether or not there were rebuilds, the results would have been the same. And they did have 2 top 3 picks as QB's that both ended up failing miserably - Heath Schuler and RG3 - not to mention other 1st rounders like Patrick Ramsey and Jason Campbell. If you have poor leadership, you are destined for failure regardless of the strategy.
Again, there are other ways of getting a franchise QB - actually doing your homework when drafting - which good organizations do - or signing a quality veteran QB - or trading for a quality veteran QB. All of those strategies fail with poor leadership. And with 22 starters on a football team - not including special teams - getting a QB doesn't guaranteee you anything. Matt Stafford has generally been regarded as a franchise QB - how did Detroit do for the 12 years he was there? I'm guessing they had the single worst record in the NFL over that time-span. Challeged by the Jets - who had Sanchez, Darnold,and now Zach Wilson (2-8, so far).
Rebuilding properly and having a good owner are not mutually exclusive. I agree that you need a good front office and owner. If you don't have that, then yes, you will fail year over year, as shown with Snyder being the owner. But also under Snyder, he has not committed fully to rebuild, ever.
Also, a rebuild isn't just about getting a solid QB in the draft, it is about getting a solid core group of players in the draft. But history has shown that without a solid QB you are not likely to be a top-caliber team and the odds are that this QB will be drafted in round 1.
Anyhow, in summary, both your take and my take fail miserably without good leadership. The difference though is that your take (sticking with what we have and getting people via free agency) versus my take (rebuilding properly by sticking to it for a few years) is that one has been done several times by this leadership, while the other has never been done. I don't think I need to rehash the results.....