Tank World Order (6.0)

ItsDanger · Post #181 » by **ItsDanger** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 7:18 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:

Watch on YouTube

Love Chandler's game. Hard to say when he will go but I think you may be able get him around #20. But he could go much earlier. Couple of other bigger PGs may be taken ahead of him.

mdenny · Post #182 » by **mdenny** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 7:22 pm

ItsDanger wrote:If we get a highly ranked offensive talent in this draft, we need to dump one of Fred/Siakam. Why? They will not tolerate pound the rock/out of control shots and will get frustrated. They will know immediately they have more natural offensive talent. Scottie is still realizing his offensive potential so he's not there yet.

Its that same old story that happens in the nba over and over again.

Rookie joins team and has no tolerance for his championship winning veteran teammates and their poor decision making.

I get the idea of tanking. Especially if there are circumstances like injuries. But this "shiny new toy" mentality where we are pitting a rookie who hasnt even been drafted yet against our veterans is delusional and hilarious.

GreatWhiteStiff · Post #183 » by **GreatWhiteStiff** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 7:26 pm

canz55 wrote:
TRik wrote:Treadmill Winning Opposers

I'm firmly in the treadmill camp if they play good defence and rebound the ball but they're not doing that. In fact they're one of the worst teams in the NBA with regards to the faculties I care most about.

I'm starting to waver...

You spoke my feels into existance!

*meme bro hug*

NotMyKawhi · Post #184 » by **NotMyKawhi** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 8:03 pm

I love trading Pascal for Holmes and one of their PGs

That's the trade where you just upgrade to a playoff team, rudy gay style

Jcity08 · Post #185 » by **Jcity08** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 8:27 pm

You dont dump existing players as a reaction to who you select in the draft. Thats not how to build a team.

Clay Davis · Post #186 » by **Clay Davis** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 9:04 pm

DelAbbot wrote:
Clay Davis wrote:Where would a 20 year old Scottie Barnes go in this year's draft?

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Which Scottie Barnes? pre-draft Scottie Barnes or today's Scottie Barnes? There is a big difference

Pre-draft Scottie Barnes but without the question marks that he'd have provided answers for (and boyyy has he given good answers :love:

).

VanWest82 · Post #187 » by **VanWest82** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 9:26 pm

Looking at the standings I'd say the lowest we could realistically get pre-lottery is 7th just like last year. We're not going to out tank the Magic, Pistons, Rockets, Thunder, or Spurs in any scenario. Maybe Zion comes back and Pelicans start winning but Kings and Pacers are right there too. And you know we'll be trying to win so we can properly develop guys until at least all star break.

It's too early to say anything else but I'd bet actual money we won't fall lower than 7th.

Basketball_Jones · Post #188 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 9:34 pm

VanWest82 wrote:Looking at the standings I'd say the lowest we could realistically get pre-lottery is 7th just like last year. We're not going to out tank the Magic, Pistons, Rockets, Thunder, or Spurs in any scenario. Maybe Zion comes back and Pelicans start winning but Kings and Pacers are right there too. And you know we'll be trying to win so we can properly develop guys until at least all star break.

It's too early to say anything else but I'd bet actual money we won't fall lower than 7th.

That is correct. We aren’t nearly bad enough to be laughing stock like the Hoffa/Bargnani days. We’re also very hard pressed to even make the play in games the way things are going. And more injuries are coming from Fred/Scottie/and probably Siakam. We can barely win with all of them healthy now.

Psubs · Post #189 » by **Psubs** » Wed Dec 1, 2021 9:45 pm

Basketball_Jones wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:Looking at the standings I'd say the lowest we could realistically get pre-lottery is 7th just like last year. We're not going to out tank the Magic, Pistons, Rockets, Thunder, or Spurs in any scenario. Maybe Zion comes back and Pelicans start winning but Kings and Pacers are right there too. And you know we'll be trying to win so we can properly develop guys until at least all star break.

It's too early to say anything else but I'd bet actual money we won't fall lower than 7th.

That is correct. We aren’t nearly bad enough to be laughing stock like the Hoffa/Bargnani days. We’re also very hard pressed to even make the play in games the way things are going. And more injuries are coming from Fred/Scottie/and probably Siakam. We can barely win with all of them healthy now.

I think this just shows how important OG is to the team. Him and Barnes are Raptors for life!

Appostis · Post #190 » by **Appostis** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 1:50 am

NotMyKawhi wrote:I love trading Pascal for Holmes and one of their PGs

That's the trade where you just upgrade to a playoff team, rudy gay style

No..nononono.

Why do you guys want a treadmill?

Psubs · Post #191 » by **Psubs** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 1:54 am

Appostis wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:I love trading Pascal for Holmes and one of their PGs

That's the trade where you just upgrade to a playoff team, rudy gay style

No..nononono.

Why do you guys want a treadmill?

Right! I don't want Fox or Davion Mitchell and they aren't trading Haliburton.

Chandan · Post #192 » by **Chandan** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 2:04 am

Psubs wrote:
Appostis wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:I love trading Pascal for Holmes and one of their PGs

That's the trade where you just upgrade to a playoff team, rudy gay style

No..nononono.

Why do you guys want a treadmill?

Right! I don't want Fox or Davion Mitchell and they aren't trading Haliburton.

i heard raptors fan loves defenders without an ounce of offense.

720 · Post #193 » by **720** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 2:21 am

Duarte for the pacers got his jersey pulled during a fast break for the lead in the last few seconds but the refs didn't call it. Pacers always choke away wins last minute. It's crazy, Brogdan and Sabonis ain't it. Reminds me of the Raptors with Fred and Siakam.

Loss would have pulled us closer to them. They have a semi tough stretch coming.

JShuttlesworth · Post #194 » by **JShuttlesworth** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 2:24 am

I think Jaden Ivey would be nice on our roster

alpngso · Post #195 » by **alpngso** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 2:34 am

JShuttlesworth wrote:I think Jaden Ivey would be nice on our roster

Jaden Ivey or die trying

720 · Post #196 » by **720** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 2:35 am

alpngso wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:I think Jaden Ivey would be nice on our roster

Jaden Ivey or die trying

JShuttlesworth · Post #197 » by **JShuttlesworth** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 3:04 am

I didn't realize until today that Jaden Ivey's mom (Niele Ivey) is the coach at Notre Dame, and played in the WNBA. Honestly I see that as a massive positive, it increases the chances that he has a high BBIQ

Same with AJ Griffin, Patrick Baldwin Jr, anyone else?

Here's an Ivey interview, seems like a great kid, says "you know" a lot though

Watch on YouTube

720 · Post #198 » by **720** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 3:19 am

JShuttlesworth wrote:I didn't realize until today that Jaden Ivey's mom (Niele Ivey) is the coach at Notre Dame, and played in the WNBA. Honestly I see that as a massive positive, it increases the chances that he has a high BBIQ

Same with AJ Griffin, Patrick Baldwin Jr, anyone else?

Here's an Ivey interview, seems like a great kid, says "you know" a lot though

Watch on YouTube

At least he doesn't sound like Jalen Green. Ever hear him talk? :lol:

Bruin · Post #199 » by **Bruin** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 3:28 am

We’re 2.5 games from the 11th seed (lol) and also 2.5 games away from the 5th best lotto odds

720 · Post #200 » by **720** » Thu Dec 2, 2021 3:31 am

PrinceAli wrote:We’re 2.5 games from the 11th seed (lol) and also 2.5 games away from the 5th best lotto odds

Yup, we're slowly moving down away from the pack of play in contenders. You love to see it.

At 9-12 where do you stand?