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Post#81 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 9, 2021 3:32 am

HardenGoat wrote:Damn. We had it down to 4 points plus momentum. One thing though is that Mathew’s guy is a clutch player and Tate is underated. Harden got tired and started chucking.


Both are marginal players at best.

we had more talent then them tonight. they are an awful teaming that was missing 2 starters and lost another midway in the 4th.

Nash needs to be removed.
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Post#82 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Dec 9, 2021 3:33 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:Harden has been AWFUL in the last 5 minutes. I don't care how many stupid mistakes Nash makes. He cost us the game.

Stupid shots and mistakes.


no, its 100% on nash. Harden is part of why we even had a chance. he had a bad turnover sure, but he had to creat 100% of our offense with 0 gameplanning or adjustments or lineups that make sense


Youre such a broken record. All you ever do is blame Nash.

Yes he made some mistakes. We also had a 4 point deficit, Harden kept chucking up bad shots and turning the ball over.

He should have taken over and won us the **** game.
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Post#83 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 9, 2021 3:38 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:Youre such a broken record. All you ever do is blame Nash.


when you are the worst coach in the last 40 years, at ANY organized level, your going to be the probelm most nights. which Nash is. a bad coach and we have 1-2 more wins and resting KD in blowout wins. a good coach we would have the leagues best record.

Yes he made some mistakes. We also had a 4 point deficit, Harden kept chucking up bad shots and turning the ball over.

He should have taken over and won us the **** game.


Maybe call a play? nope.... nash just hopes his stars bail him out. they were hard doublig every pick and roll. you dont go away from that. it was a dunk attempt every time if we executed properly. or a wide open shot.

call a timeout? run some kind of action?

a chair would have been more invovled.

Harden played a ton of minutes. use your timeouts and the TV breaks to manufactor rest for him. nope...

FU nash.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets 12/8/21 8:00pm (YES Network) 

Post#84 » by HardenGoat » Thu Dec 9, 2021 3:45 am

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HardenGoat wrote:Damn. We had it down to 4 points plus momentum. One thing though is that Mathew’s guy is a clutch player and Tate is underated. Harden got tired and started chucking.


Both are marginal players at best.

we had more talent then them tonight. they are an awful teaming that was missing 2 starters and lost another midway in the 4th.

Nash needs to be removed.

You should research their games and see what those 2 have been doing to win games. I’ll give you a hint, it’s not because they are playing marginally. Even the games they lost.
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Post#85 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 9, 2021 3:46 am

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HardenGoat wrote:Damn. We had it down to 4 points plus momentum. One thing though is that Mathew’s guy is a clutch player and Tate is underated. Harden got tired and started chucking.


Both are marginal players at best.

we had more talent then them tonight. they are an awful teaming that was missing 2 starters and lost another midway in the 4th.

Nash needs to be removed.

You should research their games and see what those 2 have been doing to win games. I’ll give you a hint, it’s not because they are playing marginally. Even the games they lost.


Both are worse then average roll players. playing well late vs awful teams during a fraud win streak doesnt change that. neither guy would crack our rotation
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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets 12/8/21 8:00pm (YES Network) 

Post#86 » by Suwanee » Thu Dec 9, 2021 3:49 am

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Prokorov wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:Harden has been AWFUL in the last 5 minutes. I don't care how many stupid mistakes Nash makes. He cost us the game.

Stupid shots and mistakes.


no, its 100% on nash. Harden is part of why we even had a chance. he had a bad turnover sure, but he had to creat 100% of our offense with 0 gameplanning or adjustments or lineups that make sense


Youre such a broken record. All you ever do is blame Nash.

Yes he made some mistakes. We also had a 4 point deficit, Harden kept chucking up bad shots and turning the ball over.

He should have taken over and won us the **** game.

If it wasn’t Harden’s 4pt play, it was still an 8 point deficit
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Post#87 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 9, 2021 3:50 am

I wouldnt be surprised to see griffin approach the team about a trade or buyout. its criminal what nash has done to him and he cant be happy with it. and his best chance to win a ring is probably elsewhere.
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Post#88 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 9, 2021 3:50 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
no, its 100% on nash. Harden is part of why we even had a chance. he had a bad turnover sure, but he had to creat 100% of our offense with 0 gameplanning or adjustments or lineups that make sense


Youre such a broken record. All you ever do is blame Nash.

Yes he made some mistakes. We also had a 4 point deficit, Harden kept chucking up bad shots and turning the ball over.

He should have taken over and won us the **** game.

If it wasn’t Harden’s 4pt play, it was still an 8 point deficit


Yeah, harden is why we didnt lose by 30.
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Post#89 » by Ksny13 » Thu Dec 9, 2021 3:53 am

I think it’s naive to think Harden is just throttling it back until later on at this point. Hopefully it’s just his injury but as of right now he’s playing like a fringe all star. He’s not capable of carrying a team or even spurts in a game at this point right now.
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Post#90 » by HardenGoat » Thu Dec 9, 2021 3:59 am

Its a BTB against a very motivated young team at home. Harden got tired. Our ball handling depth is compromised because our 35 million dollar guard is afraid to get vaccinated against the flu. Let’s blame the coach.
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Post#91 » by Suwanee » Thu Dec 9, 2021 4:00 am

Ksny13 wrote:I think it’s naive to think Harden is just throttling it back until later on at this point. Hopefully it’s just his injury but as of right now he’s playing like a fringe all star. He’s not capable of carrying a team or even spurts in a game at this point right now.

He still looks out of shape to me. Hopefully in another month or so he’ll be in better shape
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Post#92 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 9, 2021 4:00 am

Ksny13 wrote:I think it’s naive to think Harden is just throttling it back until later on at this point. Hopefully it’s just his injury but as of right now he’s playing like a fringe all star. He’s not capable of carrying a team or even spurts in a game at this point right now.


Harden is playing at an all-nba level, let alone allstar. 21/10/8 on 60 TS% and has been our best player in like half our games on the best team in the east.

He had an awful first few weeks which brought his overall numbers down. last 15 games he is 23/11/9 on 63 TS% and 9 FTA per game.

He has progressively gotten better. its not just getting in shape. he had no offseason with his hamstring, had to adjust to rules that target him (spoiler alert, he adjusted) and he has to get over the mental hurdle of jumping and going hard on that hammy again.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets 12/8/21 8:00pm (YES Network) 

Post#93 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 9, 2021 4:02 am

HardenGoat wrote:Its a BTB against a very motivated young team at home. Harden got tired. Our ball handling depth is compromised because our 35 million dollar guard is afraid to get vaccinated against the flu. Let’s blame the coach.


motivated or not, its an awful young team missing 2 starters with another ejected late. back to back or not, a good coach wins this by 15+. a bad coach wins it. nash avoids blowout loss only because of hardens efforts.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Rockets 12/8/21 8:00pm (YES Network) 

Post#94 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Dec 9, 2021 4:11 am

Oh nothing change? Typical....

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Post#95 » by Sharcm1 » Thu Dec 9, 2021 4:17 am

I miss Irving. :(.
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Post#96 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 9, 2021 4:19 am

Nash throwing players under the bus in the postgame. not sure whats worse, his awful coaching, or lack of accountability.
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Post#97 » by Karate Diop » Thu Dec 9, 2021 4:47 am

Prokorov wrote:I wouldnt be surprised to see griffin approach the team about a trade or buyout. its criminal what nash has done to him and he cant be happy with it. and his best chance to win a ring is probably elsewhere.


I like what Griffin brings but to be fair he REALLY was struggling to convert his field goals... I think he should get another chance at some point but he's got to be better with his efficiency.
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Post#98 » by Karate Diop » Thu Dec 9, 2021 4:47 am

This team really needs 1 guy who will okay with nonstop energy... A Nwaba type dude would be nice...
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Post#99 » by Prokorov » Thu Dec 9, 2021 4:48 am

Karate Diop wrote:
Prokorov wrote:I wouldnt be surprised to see griffin approach the team about a trade or buyout. its criminal what nash has done to him and he cant be happy with it. and his best chance to win a ring is probably elsewhere.


I like what Griffin brings but to be fair he REALLY was struggling to convert his field goals... I think he should get another chance at some point but he's got to be better with his efficiency.


He was really only struggling to hit threes. and its still a relatively small sample. in a game like tonight he needs to play more. especially since he was part of helping us come back
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Post#100 » by gigantes » Thu Dec 9, 2021 5:27 am

Ksny13 wrote:I think it’s naive to think Harden is just throttling it back until later on at this point. Hopefully it’s just his injury but as of right now he’s playing like a fringe all star. He’s not capable of carrying a team or even spurts in a game at this point right now.

Oh, I'm thinking he could still carry a team if it was largely built around him, i.e. small-ball switching 3&D guys. But he might also carry this team with better experience and familiarity with each other.

The big thing a lot of NBA fans still seem to be missing about the Nets is that for most of the season there's only been around 4-5 return players from last season playing. Minutes and lineups are still experimental. No way is this a finished product here, so I'm trying to hold off on blaming Harden or anyone else at this point.

I also want to point out that after iron-man Beard came here last season, he was averaging 41mpg IIRC, five more minutes than his career average. During that initial run is when he first injured the hamstring. Over the last four games he's inched all the way up to almost 39mpg. Zoiks.

If I was Marks I would think about stepping in here and making it clear to KD and Harden that he's imposing some kind of minutes restrictions, and that appealing to the coach isn't going to work anymore. Something like that.

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