Game 26: Nets (18-8) @ Pistons (4-21) - Dec. 12 6:00 PM EST

[bstein14]

So I just did some checking, and for those wondering;

There have been 11 Detroit Pistons head coaches that have coached 200 or more games for the team.


Dwayne Casey is 85-166 for a winning percentage of .346

The next closest is Dave DeBusschere who in 1964-1967 as a player/coach had a winning percentage of .356(79-143)

So Dwayne Casey is the worst Detroit Pistons head coach for those who have coached 200 or more games.

For coaches that have coached at least 100 game for the Detroit Pistons, only Don Chaney has a worse record at .293 during 93-95(48-116).

That's how bad it's been.

I agree with what Liquorish said in the following post in that it goes beyond the win/loss record in how bad of a coach Casey is.

However, to spring board off your post a bit Casey's Pistons are 24-74 in the last 1.25 seasons. Granted the main objective last season wasn't to win games, but that performance sure as hell didn't warrant Weaver give Casey an undeserved/un-necessary contract extension either.

Casey got the extension because he properly tanked away towards the end of the season. It's not easy for a coach to not go out there and try to win every game but that is what he did. He put the young guys out there and let them make mistakes instead of trying to squeeze out every possible win last year.... and we go the #1 pick because of it which was great for us. Next year will likely be the real test for Casey as we shift to trying to win as many games as possible.

[Scout Taron]

Is Cade a guard or forward?

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Swingman (SG/SF) body / defensive profile. But offensively, he's going to be a point/on-ball guard.

[thesack12]

So I just did some checking, and for those wondering;

There have been 11 Detroit Pistons head coaches that have coached 200 or more games for the team.


Dwayne Casey is 85-166 for a winning percentage of .346

The next closest is Dave DeBusschere who in 1964-1967 as a player/coach had a winning percentage of .356(79-143)

So Dwayne Casey is the worst Detroit Pistons head coach for those who have coached 200 or more games.

For coaches that have coached at least 100 game for the Detroit Pistons, only Don Chaney has a worse record at .293 during 93-95(48-116).

That's how bad it's been.

I agree with what Liquorish said in the following post in that it goes beyond the win/loss record in how bad of a coach Casey is.

However, to spring board off your post a bit Casey's Pistons are 24-74 in the last 1.25 seasons. Granted the main objective last season wasn't to win games, but that performance sure as hell didn't warrant Weaver give Casey an undeserved/un-necessary contract extension either.

Casey got the extension because he properly tanked away towards the end of the season. It's not easy for a coach to not go out there and try to win every game but that is what he did. He put the young guys out there and let them make mistakes instead of trying to squeeze out every possible win last year.... and we go the #1 pick because of it which was great for us. Next year will likely be the real test for Casey as we shift to trying to win as many games as possible.

No, actually the decision to tank and the execution of doing so was taken out of Casey's hands when the vets were made healthy inactives for so many games last season.

No matter how you want to slice it, it was completely un-necessary to give a guy with 2 years remaining on his contract an extension. And now because of that we are locked into having awful coaching for likely at least the next 1.75 seasons.

[Sort]

I don't know anyone who thought that extension necessary. As much as I don't like this, Pistons should wait to let Casey go this offseason unless Weaver has someone already in mind. Casey should not be judged by the wins and losses, but by the "core four" taking steps back (Beef and Bey) or stagnating (Hayes), and then flatly choosing to play CoJo over Lee.

He better get the next coach right. Cade plus top five draft pick needs the right coach, and Casey can enjoy his excessive retirement bonus. You don't want Cade floundering through different systems and coaches. That's a real risk right now.

And if Casey isn't fired, what exactly is the bar Weaver has set? He's getting nowhere this season and regressing on the Pistons future.

[thesack12]

I don't know anyone who thought that extension necessary. As much as I don't like this, Pistons should wait to let Casey go this offseason unless Weaver has someone already in mind. Casey should not be judged by the wins and losses, but by the "core four" taking steps back (Beef and Bey) or stagnating (Hayes), and then flatly choosing to play CoJo over Lee.

He better get the next coach right. Cade plus top five draft pick needs the right coach, and Casey can enjoy his excessive retirement bonus. You don't want Cade floundering through different systems and coaches. That's a real risk right now.

And if Casey isn't fired, what exactly is the bar Weaver has set? He's getting nowhere this season and regressing on the Pistons future.

Word!

I will add that unfortunately I don't think Casey will even be fired this offseason either as he will have 2 years left on his contract, and it will make Weaver look even more stupid for giving him that extension. All it would amount to is giving Casey free $.

Then again, Weaver can't really afford to let the current arc of this team continue for too much longer either. If it does his seat will start to get hot. So maybe we will actually see the end of the Casey experience occur this summer.

[bstein14]

Weaver likely doesn't care at all if Casey gets money that's someone who has been a company man and done everything Weaver has asked of him. Not sure Gores cares all that much either he bought the team for $325 million and now it (any every NBA team) are worth more than $1 billion. He's done quite well for himself and Casey/Weaver are selling fans on hope/the future which is more more than what SVG ever did here. Everything is golden right now for Detroit and Weaver is getting another top 5 pick this year once again to add to the arsenal.

Next year, if things don't move upward I'm sure the pressure will start to mount a bit for Casey and maybe even Weaver but I'm pretty sure right now we're exactly where Weaver expected to be as we've continued to give big minutes to 2nd year guys that are still not winning NBA players.

[Piston Pete]

Lineup I’d like to see a lot more of as this season progresses:

PG - Lee
SG - Cade
SF - Diallo
PF - Pickett
C - Stewart

Bench:
Hayes
FrankJax
Bey
Lyles
Garza

[440BB]

I expect Weaver is keeping Casey on board for at least one more season. Casey seems willing to execute another losing season without complaint while Weaver builds the roster, something no higher quality coach would likely accept. I expect the last year of the extension is to be paid to Casey as a bonus when the team has become attractive enough to hire a top tier coach in 2023.

[edmunder_prc]

Is Cade a guard or forward?

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He's 6'8" so the sky is the limit. Maybe a PF?

[7r5ur]

Is Cade a guard or forward?

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Yes