BoatsNZones wrote:BelgradeNugget wrote:DutchManDanFan wrote:The Jokic love on this board is unreal. It might be a debate on offense, but the impact Giannis has is underestimated a lot. His presence on the court gives his team mates so much space. He doesn't need to facilitate like Jokic does when he's on the court to be just as valuable.
On defense there's no debate. Not for Jokic.
Steph and KD are ahead because of team record. That's reality.
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Jokic has been dominant and I could not disagree with the poster you quoted more, but as has been addressed in depth by a poster in this thread already, Jokic spends an inordinate amount of time with the Nuggets starters relative to the bench players. That's not on him, but it goes to explain why there is such a massive chasm relative to other stars who spend much more time playing with the bench as well. This stat is also incorrect as Aaron Gordon has a +22.8 Net (Monte Morris has a +21.8). It's a mistake by Malone to do this IMO. As far as pure +/- goes, Curry leads the league at +11.9 per game, Jokic is second at +9.0, Giannis third at +8.7, and Gobert/Mitchell are 4th/5th at +8.6.
https://www.nba.com/stats/players/traditional/?sort=PLUS_MINUS&dir=-1&CF=GP*GE*15&Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season
Or we could make a case that he is always playing with backups because Nuggets starters are injured
Against Spars on Sunday Barton was also out so their only projected starter was AG. So the question is who is helping who more AG, Barton and Morris helping Jokic or other way around. We also saw those starters without Jokic. Jeff Green was bench player, was part of that bad bench. Now as a starter he is great. Why?Anyway those 4 (Steph, Giannis, KD, Jokic) are having great seasons so there is no reason to question why are people delighted with the seasons they have.
