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The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread

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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1441 » by Shak_Celts » Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:37 pm

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Harden and Lillard are for me hard no's, we've had the Harden discussion before obviously. I just don't want to trade Jaylen for an aging star in their thirties making 40+ million. That approach doesn't make sense to me to pair with your 23-24 Tatum.

Rereading above i don't think I was being clear. I have issues with KAT as a player, but I WOULD do a Jaylen for KAT swap. I just wouldn't do it now, I need to see if Jaylen and Tatum can make it work over the next 12-18 months. After that I'd do it as long as we don't have to throw in a bunch of stuff WITH Jaylen. If its Jaylen + Langford + a first? Sure, that's fine. I'm just trying to make the point that the swap isn't the clear, absolute, no brainer that a lot of people seem to think. There are very real reasons why i suspect it might not work if your ultimate goal is a championship. But if it becomes clear over the next 12-18 months that Jaylen + Tatum isn't working either than sure, bet on pure talent which KAT is swimming in.

I'm not making a lateral or worse move. Sabonis, Beal, Simmons are roughly lateral moves to me. The c's aren't out of options yet. Before I trade Jaylen I would take all the picks and young players you have and go try to find the c's version of Jrue Holiday. A third banana who is a good glue guy.


Don't care about this other stuff much. Just wanted to say, WE SHOULD HAVE HAD JRUE NOT A VERSION OF HIM! Dang man, we missed out!


Not yelling at you, I'm still a lil salty tbh. I think he'd fit in perfectly with the Jays. They teased me that offseason. I thought it was going to be a done deal, I had a feeling. :banghead:


Holiday is basically Marcus Smart with the ability to both shoot off ball and create offense for himself on ball. That would be basically the ideal third guy for the Jays.


The proposed stuff didn't include Smart either. We could have then had Smart as the 6th man or starting 2G (I know people don't like that).
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1442 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:03 pm

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I find it interesting that the Celtics are so high.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1443 » by celtxman » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:28 pm

ddb wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:In celebration of Schroders Trade restriction lifting I have a few proposals

Dennis and Schroder to NYK for Grimes and KEmba
Dennis to NYK for Samanic and Grimes
Dennis to NYK for Samanic and Knox

Dennis to Dallas for Green

Dennis to Denver for BolBol and Compazo (me likey)

Dennis and a 2nd to Clippers for Winslow and Boston JR (yes please)

Dennis, Juancho and Bruno to the Spurs for McDermott + a chep guy

Dennis to Chicago for White

Dennis and Juancho to Orlando for RJ HAmpton and Ross


can't wait for the, "hey, at least we got two 2nd round picks for him! if he didn't sign here for CHEAP we wouldn't have these TWO second round picks!"

I think the Celtics should be able to sign Danny to a one day contract to do the deal
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1444 » by GoGreen » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:46 pm

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keevsnick1 wrote:My top targets:

Buddy Heid
Harrison Barnes
Jerami Grant

Guys who can shoot, not get killed on defense, provide some self creation and can be matched salary wise with Juancho+Jrich and are also on bad teams so might actually be available.

Secondary targets are Larry Nance, Robert Covington, Doug McDermitt, Kyle Anderson. These are players who have skillsets that could help, are cheaper than the ones above, but dont provide as much offense self creation wise. Role players.


Heild in the right situation I still think can be helpful. I'm just not sure Boston is the right situation. Barnes I like, but it would be hard to acquire him...Grant same thing.

Give me McDermott out of the 2nd group. Celts need shooters and he's the best shooter of the names you list.


If the Cs had a stronger team culture, I think Buddy would be a great fit. But they unfortunately don't. Hield is kind of a knucklehead from what Kings fans are saying. Chucker, not a great defender, kinda immature. Eh. Not what this team needs. Still very tempting, though, because this team does need shooting.

Wonder if Haliburton is avbl, because we could also use a legit PG.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1445 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:53 pm

Really interested in who winds up with Jerami Grant. He's a great piece for somebody, and it'd be a shock for him to leave in a salary dump or for a 1st round pick, except I don't know who has the kind of young players Detroit would want. Maybe he brings back 2 1sts..?
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1446 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:47 pm

Andrew McCeltic wrote:Really interested in who winds up with Jerami Grant. He's a great piece for somebody, and it'd be a shock for him to leave in a salary dump or for a 1st round pick, except I don't know who has the kind of young players Detroit would want. Maybe he brings back 2 1sts..?


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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1447 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:54 pm

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Andrew McCeltic wrote:Really interested in who winds up with Jerami Grant. He's a great piece for somebody, and it'd be a shock for him to leave in a salary dump or for a 1st round pick, except I don't know who has the kind of young players Detroit would want. Maybe he brings back 2 1sts..?


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No way in hell, earth or heaven. Word now is GS isn't going to trade him. And if they do, it's for a more impact guy than Grant. They've been interested in Bagley, two tiers down.
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Post#1448 » by Andrew McCeltic » Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:55 pm

But sure, hi James
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1449 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:36 pm

There is no guy on the market who is more impactful than Jerami Grant, and that includes Simmons. But Grant is hurt, and the Dubs would probably want to unload some additional salary on the Pistons.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1450 » by Asian Celtic » Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:45 pm

Unpopular opinion but i'd probably trade smart first before jrich.
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Post#1451 » by CelticFaninLBC » Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:55 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
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I find it interesting that the Celtics are so high.


Can see Stevens making a run at Simmons and Beal. Probably a better shot at getting Beal.
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Post#1452 » by moonie_mcgee » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:31 am

Andrew McCeltic wrote:
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Andrew McCeltic wrote:Really interested in who winds up with Jerami Grant. He's a great piece for somebody, and it'd be a shock for him to leave in a salary dump or for a 1st round pick, except I don't know who has the kind of young players Detroit would want. Maybe he brings back 2 1sts..?


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No way in hell, earth or heaven. Word now is GS isn't going to trade him. And if they do, it's for a more impact guy than Grant. They've been interested in Bagley, two tiers down.


The mills of the gods grind slowly but they grind to dust.

I see Wiseman's value is rising 8-) Get in on it Stevens :nod: That's the kid to pair with Tatum. Surround them with shooters and a wrecking crew and you got the team for multiple titles.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1453 » by playa-hater » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:31 am

Curmudgeon wrote:
Andrew McCeltic wrote:Really interested in who winds up with Jerami Grant. He's a great piece for somebody, and it'd be a shock for him to leave in a salary dump or for a 1st round pick, except I don't know who has the kind of young players Detroit would want. Maybe he brings back 2 1sts..?


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That trade can't work because of salary either way
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1454 » by playa-hater » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:32 am

Asian Celtic wrote:Unpopular opinion but i'd probably trade smart first before jrich.


Well I am guessing smart has better trade return than J rich.
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1455 » by playa-hater » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:34 am

moonie_mcgee wrote:
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No way in hell, earth or heaven. Word now is GS isn't going to trade him. And if they do, it's for a more impact guy than Grant. They've been interested in Bagley, two tiers down.


The mills of the gods grind slowly but they grind to dust.

I see Wiseman's value is rising 8-) Get in on it Stevens :nod: That's the kid to pair with Tatum. Surround them with shooters and a wrecking crew and you got the team for multiple titles.


So who are we offering m smart?
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1456 » by moonie_mcgee » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:39 am

There's many paths to championships with Tatum. He's the bona-fide 35+ scorer and defends and rebounds, but he needs the right cast around him. What's your approach? 08, 80s, 70s Celts? Other franchise?
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1457 » by Asian Celtic » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:40 am

playa-hater wrote:
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Andrew McCeltic wrote:Really interested in who winds up with Jerami Grant. He's a great piece for somebody, and it'd be a shock for him to leave in a salary dump or for a 1st round pick, except I don't know who has the kind of young players Detroit would want. Maybe he brings back 2 1sts..?


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That trade can't work because of salary either way


Having Smart out of this team is already a win imo.
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Post#1458 » by playa-hater » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:46 am

Asian Celtic wrote:
playa-hater wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
James Wiseman says hello.


That trade can't work because of salary either way


Having Smart out of this team is already a win imo.


I don't hate smart but I hate smart and schroder together
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1459 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:46 am

Jaylen to GS, Wiseman to BOS, filler and Kuminga to SAS, Dejounte Murray to BOS..

Murray/Pritchard
Smart/Schroeder/Romeo
Tatum/Josh/Nesmith
Al/Grant
Rob/Enes/Wiseman...
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Re: The 2021-2022 I Wouldn't Trade Brown for Simmons Because He's a Clown Trade Thread 

Post#1460 » by moonie_mcgee » Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:47 am

playa-hater wrote:
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No way in hell, earth or heaven. Word now is GS isn't going to trade him. And if they do, it's for a more impact guy than Grant. They've been interested in Bagley, two tiers down.


The mills of the gods grind slowly but they grind to dust.

I see Wiseman's value is rising 8-) Get in on it Stevens :nod: That's the kid to pair with Tatum. Surround them with shooters and a wrecking crew and you got the team for multiple titles.


So who are we offering m smart?


Nah Smart won't get us what we need.
Hes a big part of the wrecking crew.
Besides #35 will be in the rafters.
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