Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 21-22 Vol. 1

[AirP.]

Anyone getting a feeling of Miami holding M.Morris out longer then is needed because they're wanting to see other combinations or/and wanting to move him? A.Bradley seemed to go through an extended period of not being available last year and was available to Houston pretty quickly after being moved, the year before J.Johnson and D.Waiters went through extended times being out that seemed much more then they needed. Maybe Miami is being safe but it seems this doesn't happen to their key players like Butler (who recently came back possibly too early) and Bam.

I do wonder if Miami was upset with the foul Morris did against Jokic and are worried something like that could happen during a close playoff game that possibly costs them the game.

I haven't read or heard anything that would suggest the Heat is upset with Morris in any way. A couple of years ago he missed 6 weeks due to a neck injury which I'm sure was impacted by the cheap shot from the clown.

Ah... I'm taking other things in consideration as in Morris looking fine in a recent shoot around and Spoelstra saying he wasn't supposed to be on the main court shooting (where media could see). It just seems to me that Miami players who end up getting moved are out much longer than you'd expect them to be, at least since the time Butler's been on the roster, I didn't follow this team that much before then.

BTW... I'm not saying the Jokic shot wasn't a cheap shot, it was, but Morris was excessive with his foul right before that. Jokic gets away with a lot of little cheap shots each game because of his size and star status.

Morris was shooting around a week and a half ago before games and didn't look to have any issues or concerns with his neck.

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[harlem_ball]

Strus would start, Herro would be a 6th man

Only if Herro struggled with defense but with Turner there Herro would get more support. Spo would have to play some more zone or a defense that would maximize Turner's shot-blocking ability.

Herro doesn't start is because of his offense. Your minimizing Herro to being put in the corner and being minimized to a spot up shooter instead of a scorer.

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A decent point but Butler doesn't shoot threes and Herros your best three point perimeter guy. You also have Tucker already on the edge and Turner on the other edge. The floor will be wide open. For the Suns, do you not start Booker because you have Chris Paul? I swear u guys dont watch NBA

And if you have Sabonis and Turner: Turners on the Edge, Sabonis in the high post and Herro can hit some threes while Butler kills in the paint.

And if you are right and Herro just sucks as a starter then you go w Struss.

MONEY

On defense, it would be the same as now except you have Turners shot blocking along with Sabonis strength and versatility.

YOU MAKE THIS MOVE IF YOU WANT TO WIN A TITLE WITH BUTLER.

[harlem_ball]

bam has the potential to be a generational marking player a lot like gianis... sadly he won't reach it with this coach and these kind of players (to the exception of hero and a few other scraps and maybe Robinson)

He ain't going anywhere unless it's for a huge star

?? He does?

[harlem_ball]

I think the point is that if Bam is getting moved anytime soon it should only be for one of those players, anything else at center would be a downgrade, although I'm not too sure about that. Also, this roster was shaped around Bam's uniqueness to switch well.

i can see embiid being moved but the other two fat chance but i could be wrong

I don't think anyone is saying they'd move their stars for Bam but the only way that person would trade Bam if those guys were coming back.

If Riley wants his whale he needs to go after Embiid because it's starting to look like another lost season for Embiid, push the idea of the 76ers not having move Simmons if Embiid is moved which means getting younger and not taking 50 cents on the dollar for Simmons. Unless Philly get a top 30 talent for Simmons or in a package with Simmons which FITS with Embiid, they're probably not going to be a true contender with Embiid. They're waiting on having a shot at Lillard though.

I just don't/didn't think Embiid and Simmons would work. They were 2 great talents that needed the opposite type of player then who they got paired with. Simmons needs a fast athletic big to run with and Embiid needs a good shooting PG/whatever position Simmons is to help open up the floor so he can play closer to the basket with less help.

Embiids great but there are zero rumors of Philly even interested in moving him. If you get him for Bam, you do that move of course.

[harlem_ball]

If we’re trading Bam we better be getting Embiid, Jokic, or Giannis.

is this a joke post? i dont think denver is ever going to part with the joker. guy is too good for them to let go

I think the point is that if Bam is getting moved anytime soon it should only be for one of those players, anything else at center would be a downgrade, although I'm not too sure about that. Also, this roster was shaped around Bam's uniqueness to switch well.

[AirP.]

i can see embiid being moved but the other two fat chance but i could be wrong

I don't think anyone is saying they'd move their stars for Bam but the only way that person would trade Bam if those guys were coming back.

If Riley wants his whale he needs to go after Embiid because it's starting to look like another lost season for Embiid, push the idea of the 76ers not having move Simmons if Embiid is moved which means getting younger and not taking 50 cents on the dollar for Simmons. Unless Philly get a top 30 talent for Simmons or in a package with Simmons which FITS with Embiid, they're probably not going to be a true contender with Embiid. They're waiting on having a shot at Lillard though.

I just don't/didn't think Embiid and Simmons would work. They were 2 great talents that needed the opposite type of player then who they got paired with. Simmons needs a fast athletic big to run with and Embiid needs a good shooting PG/whatever position Simmons is to help open up the floor so he can play closer to the basket with less help.

Embiids great but there are zero rumors of Philly even interested in moving him. If you get him for Bam, you do that move of course.

Right, no rumors but you can logically understand why it could be an option for Philly. Morey is an issue though, he's a gm who believes stars drive wins which of course he's right about.

1. Simmons not playing is nearly wasting a prime year of Embiid.
2. Embiid is large player with a history of injuries which goes with #1.
3. Moving Embiid could allow a way to bring back Simmons instead of trading him at his lowest value.
4. Philly doesn't look like a contender.
5. Simmons and Bam could be intriguing, a fast-paced team built around Simmons and Bam, just surround them with 3pt shooters.
6. Embiid's return, Miami would have to give up more than Bam, maybe a lot more.

Philly really screwed up trading for Harris and then just allowing Butler to basically walk (force a trade) for nearly nothing. I think Philly and Embiid could have done things to get Butler to resign but they didn't. Had Philly cashed in Simmons 2 years ago and stayed the course with Butler and Embiid, they might have been true contenders each of the last 2 seasons and of course this season too.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Simmer Eddie!! I’m not saying they would trade those guys for Bam I’m saying I won’t trade Bam unless it’s for someone Of that level.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Bam is 24, he’s just scratching the surface. Plus he’s bringing us Mitchell and/or Tatum in the future.

Embiid can’t be traded this year btw so it would be an offseason move. I will say if Riley decided to make a move like that it would be a major retool in the offseason.

[oreon]

I don't think anyone is saying they'd move their stars for Bam but the only way that person would trade Bam if those guys were coming back.

If Riley wants his whale he needs to go after Embiid because it's starting to look like another lost season for Embiid, push the idea of the 76ers not having move Simmons if Embiid is moved which means getting younger and not taking 50 cents on the dollar for Simmons. Unless Philly get a top 30 talent for Simmons or in a package with Simmons which FITS with Embiid, they're probably not going to be a true contender with Embiid. They're waiting on having a shot at Lillard though.

I just don't/didn't think Embiid and Simmons would work. They were 2 great talents that needed the opposite type of player then who they got paired with. Simmons needs a fast athletic big to run with and Embiid needs a good shooting PG/whatever position Simmons is to help open up the floor so he can play closer to the basket with less help.

Embiids great but there are zero rumors of Philly even interested in moving him. If you get him for Bam, you do that move of course.

Right, no rumors but you can logically understand why it could be an option for Philly. Morey is an issue though, he's a gm who believes stars drive wins which of course he's right about.

1. Simmons not playing is nearly wasting a prime year of Embiid.
2. Embiid is large player with a history of injuries which goes with #1.
3. Moving Embiid could allow a way to bring back Simmons instead of trading him at his lowest value.
4. Philly doesn't look like a contender.
5. Simmons and Bam could be intriguing, a fast-paced team built around Simmons and Bam, just surround them with 3pt shooters.
6. Embiid's return, Miami would have to give up more than Bam, maybe a lot more.

Philly really screwed up trading for Harris and then just allowing Butler to basically walk (force a trade) for nearly nothing. I think Philly and Embiid could have done things to get Butler to resign but they didn't. Had Philly cashed in Simmons 2 years ago and stayed the course with Butler and Embiid, they might have been true contenders each of the last 2 seasons and of course this season too.

Give me Embiid for Bam + Herro + 1st round pick anytime. But I don't see it happening. Embiid would need to ask out publicly and be prepared to make things ugly to get out of Philly. I think he has a couple more years on his deal.
I don't see it happening at all this season. Maybe next season if Simmons is still on the team and Sixers flame out in playoffs. But if there's a chance, if you're RIley you do everything to get Embiid even with the injury risks

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Embiids great but there are zero rumors of Philly even interested in moving him. If you get him for Bam, you do that move of course.

Right, no rumors but you can logically understand why it could be an option for Philly. Morey is an issue though, he's a gm who believes stars drive wins which of course he's right about.

1. Simmons not playing is nearly wasting a prime year of Embiid.
2. Embiid is large player with a history of injuries which goes with #1.
3. Moving Embiid could allow a way to bring back Simmons instead of trading him at his lowest value.
4. Philly doesn't look like a contender.
5. Simmons and Bam could be intriguing, a fast-paced team built around Simmons and Bam, just surround them with 3pt shooters.
6. Embiid's return, Miami would have to give up more than Bam, maybe a lot more.

Philly really screwed up trading for Harris and then just allowing Butler to basically walk (force a trade) for nearly nothing. I think Philly and Embiid could have done things to get Butler to resign but they didn't. Had Philly cashed in Simmons 2 years ago and stayed the course with Butler and Embiid, they might have been true contenders each of the last 2 seasons and of course this season too.

Give me Embiid for Bam + Herro + 1st round pick anytime. But I don't see it happening. Embiid would need to ask out publicly and be prepared to make things ugly to get out of Philly. I think he has a couple more years on his deal.
I don't see it happening at all this season. Maybe next season if Simmons is still on the team and Sixers flame out in playoffs. But if there's a chance, if you're RIley you do everything to get Embiid even with the injury risks

If Embiid wants out we can get him centered around Bam and a pick or so. We won’t need to add Herro, we could use him for another star or just keep him. Bams value is sky high

[harlem_ball]

Embiids great but there are zero rumors of Philly even interested in moving him. If you get him for Bam, you do that move of course.

Right, no rumors but you can logically understand why it could be an option for Philly. Morey is an issue though, he's a gm who believes stars drive wins which of course he's right about.

1. Simmons not playing is nearly wasting a prime year of Embiid.
2. Embiid is large player with a history of injuries which goes with #1.
3. Moving Embiid could allow a way to bring back Simmons instead of trading him at his lowest value.
4. Philly doesn't look like a contender.
5. Simmons and Bam could be intriguing, a fast-paced team built around Simmons and Bam, just surround them with 3pt shooters.
6. Embiid's return, Miami would have to give up more than Bam, maybe a lot more.

Philly really screwed up trading for Harris and then just allowing Butler to basically walk (force a trade) for nearly nothing. I think Philly and Embiid could have done things to get Butler to resign but they didn't. Had Philly cashed in Simmons 2 years ago and stayed the course with Butler and Embiid, they might have been true contenders each of the last 2 seasons and of course this season too.

Give me Embiid for Bam + Herro + 1st round pick anytime. But I don't see it happening. Embiid would need to ask out publicly and be prepared to make things ugly to get out of Philly. I think he has a couple more years on his deal.
I don't see it happening at all this season. Maybe next season if Simmons is still on the team and Sixers flame out in playoffs. But if there's a chance, if you're RIley you do everything to get Embiid even with the injury risks

That's way too much. Keep dreaming. Maybe if Philly gave us Simmons too

[harlem_ball]

Bam is 24, he’s just scratching the surface. Plus he’s bringing us Mitchell and/or Tatum in the future.

Embiid can’t be traded this year btw so it would be an offseason move. I will say if Riley decided to make a move like that it would be a major retool in the offseason.

How do you know Mitchell and Tatum arent taking Bam? Bunch of NONSENSE

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Bam is 24, he’s just scratching the surface. Plus he’s bringing us Mitchell and/or Tatum in the future.

Embiid can’t be traded this year btw so it would be an offseason move. I will say if Riley decided to make a move like that it would be a major retool in the offseason.

How do you know Mitchell and Tatum arent taking Bam? Bunch of NONSENSE

Trust me, they don’t want to play in racist Boston or Utah who have 1 championship in those guys lifetime between the 2.

[harlem_ball]

Bam is 24, he’s just scratching the surface. Plus he’s bringing us Mitchell and/or Tatum in the future.

Embiid can’t be traded this year btw so it would be an offseason move. I will say if Riley decided to make a move like that it would be a major retool in the offseason.

How do you know Mitchell and Tatum arent taking Bam? Bunch of NONSENSE

Trust me, they don’t want to play in racist Boston or Utah who have 1 championship in those guys lifetime between the 2.

Yeah, trust you? WTF are you?

They will prob do what everybody does and get together in LA.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

In reference to the Orlando game tonight:

Yet another game both Strus and Vincent outplay Duncan and show to be better all around players. I love Duncan but you attach picks to him and trade him to go all in and compete for the championship while you have Jimmy and Lowry still as very valuable players. Duncan is literally watching his Miami Heat future flash before his eyes watching Strus from the bench go off for 23 in the 1st half. He did not look happy lol

[harlem_ball]

I don't think anyone is saying they'd move their stars for Bam but the only way that person would trade Bam if those guys were coming back.

If Riley wants his whale he needs to go after Embiid because it's starting to look like another lost season for Embiid, push the idea of the 76ers not having move Simmons if Embiid is moved which means getting younger and not taking 50 cents on the dollar for Simmons. Unless Philly get a top 30 talent for Simmons or in a package with Simmons which FITS with Embiid, they're probably not going to be a true contender with Embiid. They're waiting on having a shot at Lillard though.

I just don't/didn't think Embiid and Simmons would work. They were 2 great talents that needed the opposite type of player then who they got paired with. Simmons needs a fast athletic big to run with and Embiid needs a good shooting PG/whatever position Simmons is to help open up the floor so he can play closer to the basket with less help.

Embiids great but there are zero rumors of Philly even interested in moving him. If you get him for Bam, you do that move of course.

Right, no rumors but you can logically understand why it could be an option for Philly. Morey is an issue though, he's a gm who believes stars drive wins which of course he's right about.

1. Simmons not playing is nearly wasting a prime year of Embiid.
2. Embiid is large player with a history of injuries which goes with #1.
3. Moving Embiid could allow a way to bring back Simmons instead of trading him at his lowest value.
4. Philly doesn't look like a contender.
5. Simmons and Bam could be intriguing, a fast-paced team built around Simmons and Bam, just surround them with 3pt shooters.
6. Embiid's return, Miami would have to give up more than Bam, maybe a lot more.

Philly really screwed up trading for Harris and then just allowing Butler to basically walk (force a trade) for nearly nothing. I think Philly and Embiid could have done things to get Butler to resign but they didn't. Had Philly cashed in Simmons 2 years ago and stayed the course with Butler and Embiid, they might have been true contenders each of the last 2 seasons and of course this season too.

It makes zero sense for Philly unless Embiid wants out but stranger things have happened. Embiid seems to have peaked there, maybe they trade high.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

How do you know Mitchell and Tatum arent taking Bam? Bunch of NONSENSE

Trust me, they don’t want to play in racist Boston or Utah who have 1 championship in those guys lifetime between the 2.

Yeah, trust you? WTF are you?

They will prob do what everybody does and get together in LA.

Who’s everybody?

If you’re going to be a dick don’t mention me, you’ve already showed your knowledge (or lack thereof) when it comes to basketball so I couldn’t care less what you have to say.

[harlem_ball]

In reference to the Orlando game tonight:

Yet another game both Strus and Vincent outplay Duncan and show to be better all around players. I love Duncan but you attach picks to him and trade him to go all in and compete for the championship while you have Jimmy and Lowry still as very valuable players. Duncan is literally watching his Miami Heat future flash before his eyes watching Strus from the bench go off for 23 in the 1st half. He did not look happy lol

yea yeah, we've heard it a million times. what you do really is trade DRob and Bam for Turner and Sabonis

Should we repeat the insanity again?

[Wiltside]

Let’s all calm down. No more personal attacks. Just talk Heat ball and keep it civil. You can disagree with someone’s opinions without attacking them.

[harlem_ball]

Trust me, they don’t want to play in racist Boston or Utah who have 1 championship in those guys lifetime between the 2.

Yeah, trust you? WTF are you?

They will prob do what everybody does and get together in LA.

Who’s everybody?

If you’re going to be a dick don’t mention me, you’ve already showed your knowledge (or lack thereof) when it comes to basketball so I couldn’t care less what you have to say.

Who's everybody? Kobe, Shaq, Kareem, LeBron, Westbrook, AD... should I continue?

I'm not being a dick,I'm just asking... who are you? why should i listen to you? I dont trust you.